Josh Gordon stats vs Chargers

stillmotion

@jcam222 said:

I agree with you on DraftKings. I'm all over Crow especially @$4100

I played him last week and he got me 10 points. Against the worst defense with Gordon back in Warm weather expect him or duke to explode. I actually thought about starting BOTH of them since hardly anyone will do that, and if our rushing game is on again, a VERY low percentage of people would've done that.

For QB, I'm thinking Jimmy G against the bears. It's risky, but he's cheap bro, and I can't start Phillip Rivers against us....

Clevfan4life

Our only chance if winning is pounding the ball up the middle. Ingram and bosa keep solid edges but up the middle they have issues cause their lb'er play. I thought they had landed a stud in perryman but he must not be doing well

The Gipper

@wargograw said:

Results are greatly indicative of our fanbase. Either miserable downers or completely delusional (<50 and >100 are the two leading answers). I put 50-75. I think he'll have 64. 0 TDs.

I won't even bother.

Clevfan4life

And when gordon doesnt play well, for obvious reasons such as

1) time away

2) he was a reknowned loafer when the play wasnt coming toward him (and that was before his suspensions)

is it gonna be "hues fault"? Omg omg omg gordon had a bad game cause #blackfester!!

im calling this now. Gotdon has a lackluster game cause him and kizer arent on the same page and it'll be all hues fault on monday. Not the kid thats been out of the league for 2-3 years with suspensions that happened while already on suspension. Callin it. Who wants in on this action?9

jrb12711

4 grabs, 47 yards. One nice quick pass gets some YAC, but you just don't come back from that long and beast mode.

What I do expect is a nice day for Corey Coleman however. Gordon will get all the attention, and I could see Coleman getting a couple nice 1v1 routes.

jiggins7919

@tour2ma said:

Agree... and as I did earlier I'll even mention Britt who finally ventured into the middle of the field last game. As a true #3 WR he has upside. And add a note to not forget our TEs.

Gordon? I went >50 and 1 TD consciously tempering my expectations, but this will be the most complete receiving corps we've put on a field in years.

I really don't see Gordon scoring a TD. For that to happen we'd need a well-thrown ball, protection, and execution. I DID like what I saw from Britt, though. However, the fact remains that the Chargers have a killer defense, and it's going to be Jacksonville Game Part 2.

dawg2fan

@stillmotion said:

I played him last week and he got me 10 points. Against the worst defense with Gordon back in Warm weather expect him or duke to explode. I actually thought about starting BOTH of them since hardly anyone will do that, and if our rushing game is on again, a VERY low percentage of people would've done that.

For QB, I'm thinking Jimmy G against the bears. It's risky, but he's cheap bro, and I can't start Phillip Rivers against us....

Our Offense will has been decent all season. But against the Chargers, they will be in Kizer's face most of the game. He won't even have time to get his passes off. Now if we design quick passes, we might offset that D.

Harry Buffalo

Honest answer here. I would be thrilled with 4 catches for 50-60 yards. First game in 3ish years? Let the guy ease in a bit. Honestly one 100 yard game and not slip ups off the field this season and I would call that a big win.

I think what Josh will do for us this season is he will take more pressure off who is currently out there. I expect to eventually see Coleman get more targets, I expect to see Njoku get more targets, I expect our running game to open up more. Those are the things Josh can do for us right now.

Dutch Oven

@harry-buffalo said:

Honest answer here. I would be thrilled with 4 catches for 50-60 yards. First game in 3ish years? Let the guy ease in a bit. Honestly one 100 yard game and not slip ups off the field this season and I would call that a big win.

I think what Josh will do for us this season is he will take more pressure off who is currently out there. I expect to eventually see Coleman get more targets, I expect to see Njoku get more targets, I expect our running game to open up more. Those are the things Josh can do for us right now.

Having a WR who can blow the top off defenses can do wonders for slot receivers who thrive underneath, and TEs who can get down the seams.

Color me intrigued for Sunday's game.

jcam222

@jiggins7919 said:

I really don't see Gordon scoring a TD. For that to happen we'd need a well-thrown ball, protection, and execution. I DID like what I saw from Britt, though. However, the fact remains that the Chargers have a killer defense, and it's going to be Jacksonville Game Part 2.

Don't forget he was wrecking the league with WEEDEN throwing the ball

DieHardBrownsFan

Gordon won't do Sheet.

PoeticG

@dutch-oven said:

Having a WR who can blow the top off defenses can do wonders for slot receivers who thrive underneath, and TEs who can get down the seams.

Color me intrigued for Sunday's game.

Exactly! Today it seemed like the Browns went and elevated to DEFCON 2! Josh Gordon - Activated...

TexasAg1969

@poeticg said:

Exactly! Today it seemed like the Browns went and elevated to DEFCON 2! Josh Gordon - Activated...

Now if they can just deactivate Hue, we're is bidness as they say.

jiggins7919

As previously stated, the Chargers may be without their probowl corner due to a family death, but I'm betting he plays. Sometimes it's better to get to work during crisis so you get a couple hours away from the pain, but we'll see. Regardless, I just read an article (linked below) that got me all fired up...no matter how much I keep telling myself we're going to get destroyed and Josh hasn't played in years.

I think what many fans don't realize is just how good a route runner Josh is, and it's rare to have his physical gifts AND that route prowess. He's not just someone who's big and fast, he understands balance, leverage, timing, and other subtle nuances of the game. But again, I don't believe many people fully understand the amazing stats of the Chargers' defense, so even IF Josh can get open, it's likely not to matter all that much. The windows will be small, Kizer won't have time, and regardless of how good Josh is, the WR position is probably the MOST dependent position on the field. WRs are dependent on virtually every other position, so getting open and being available to the qb is a very small part of the equation.

As many of us have said, I see Josh blowing up in garbage time. That's all fine and good, but I HOPE he can make a play early when the game is somewhat close. And it better be early because this game is going to get ugly QUICKLY.

Chargers - 37

Browns - 17

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/12/josh_gordons_teammates_hoping.html

jiggins7919

@jcam222 said:

Don't forget he was wrecking the league with WEEDEN throwing the ball

You're not wrong. However, also don't forget that Weeden DID throw a FEW routes extremely well, and Josh was the beneficiary. In fact, Weeden had a couple of starts that Kizer could only dream of. I flew to Dallas for one such game. We lost only because of the refs. They called about 9 questionable pass interference and defensive holding penalties, and also blew a fumble dead in overtime that we recovered for a TD. They weren't going to let us win. Regardless, my point is that Weeden was bad, but he did a few things right (sometimes). Same with Jason Campbell.

Tour2ma

True... both Wheezy and Campbell had arms that were difficult to outrun.

@jiggins7919 said:

I really don't see Gordon scoring a TD. For that to happen we'd need a well-thrown ball, protection, and execution.

For a deep ball, yes, but for a fade or a quick slant or even a quick bubble run from inside the 10, at least the protection requirement is minimized.

Tour2ma

Couple quick thoughts on Josh...

There's in shape and then there's game shape. Early energy simply waned... very noticeable in the 2nd half.
The hands... they are still there. Saw that on the first play and a couple other times.
Speed is still there, but it alone is not enough.
The strength... check... even late in the long catch and run it was apparent.
The 50/50 ball fight... I did not see it. However, many of the best opportunities to flash it were in the 2nd half... see #1.

Bottom line... a lot to look forward to in the remaining weeks.

stillmotion

@tour2ma said:

Couple quick thoughts on Josh...

There's in shape and then there's game shape. Early energy simply waned... very noticeable in the 2nd half.

The hands... they are still there. Saw that on the first play and a couple other times.

Speed is still there, but it alone is not enough.

The strength... check... even late in the long catch and run it was apparent.

The 50/50 ball fight... I did not see it. However, many of the best opportunities to flash it were in the 2nd half... see #1.

Bottom line... a lot to look forward to in the remaining weeks.

Josh looked solid still

BaconHound

@stillmotion said:

Josh looked solid still

Josh looked like he could start on a playoff team

jcam222

Being gone literally 3 years and playing like he did today is astounding. Seriously how many receivers could do that? If Kizer had any touch at all Flash would have had well over 100 yards and 2TD.