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  • These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

  • It was less sticky.. it was pedestrian in My view.. not god awful.. but not really good.. Workman like..

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/jim-nabors-gomer-pyle-andy-griffith-show-dies-51490348

    How old is Kizer?

    Maybe he shouldn't be starting right now - a Gary Danielson type would be helpful - but he could become a stellar NFL QB.

    I believe too much is being expected of him - especially with a team that rivals the expansion Buccaneers for futility.

  • Actually if he does turn out not to suck Canal water I guess a blue-chip running back and receiver could be two nice weapons.

    WSS

  • These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    LOL yeah i bet all Giants fan hope the Browns go that route

  • These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    If the Browns sign Cousins then this mock might make more sense, otherwise...... 

  • These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    Nope... but I could see how a writer in NJ would hope that's the case.

    3. Giants: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA

    7. Jets: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming

  • Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

  • @westside-steve said:

    These guys think the quarterback Nazi is in Cleveland. What do you think boys? Kizer had a stink free game, or at least a little less stinky.

    Is that enough for Sashi?

    http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/2018_nfl_mock_draft_saquon_barkley_no_1_to_browns.html

    WSS

    If the Browns sign Cousins then this mock might make more sense, otherwise...... 

    @d-bone said:

    If the Browns sign Cousins then this mock might make more sense, otherwise...... 

    Are you ok with the insane amount of money it is going to take to get Cousins - a good but not great QB - if he even would consider coming to Cleveland?

    I mean, the amount of money he would cost vs the price of taking a QB with the #1 pick is staggering. Yes, the Browns have a ton of cap space, but is Cousins good enough to justify the amount of the cap he'll eat up in the future?

  • Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

    @poeticg said:

    Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

    Is Hogan getting his noodle arm replaced by a legitimate NFL arm in the offseason in your scenario PoG?

  • @d-bone said:

    If the Browns sign Cousins then this mock might make more sense, otherwise...... 

    Are you ok with the insane amount of money it is going to take to get Cousins - a good but not great QB - if he even would consider coming to Cleveland?

    I mean, the amount of money he would cost vs the price of taking a QB with the #1 pick is staggering. Yes, the Browns have a ton of cap space, but is Cousins good enough to justify the amount of the cap he'll eat up in the future?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Are you ok with the insane amount of money it is going to take to get Cousins - a good but not great QB - if he even would consider coming to Cleveland?

    I mean, the amount of money he would cost vs the price of taking a QB with the #1 pick is staggering. Yes, the Browns have a ton of cap space, but is Cousins good enough to justify the amount of the cap he'll eat up in the future?

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than just the next future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Are you ok with the insane amount of money it is going to take to get Cousins - a good but not great QB - if he even would consider coming to Cleveland?

    I mean, the amount of money he would cost vs the price of taking a QB with the #1 pick is staggering. Yes, the Browns have a ton of cap space, but is Cousins good enough to justify the amount of the cap he'll eat up in the future?

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than just the next future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

    @d-bone said:

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than another future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

    I agree with you but no way do I see Cousins coming to the Browns even if we offered him the most.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Are you ok with the insane amount of money it is going to take to get Cousins - a good but not great QB - if he even would consider coming to Cleveland?

    I mean, the amount of money he would cost vs the price of taking a QB with the #1 pick is staggering. Yes, the Browns have a ton of cap space, but is Cousins good enough to justify the amount of the cap he'll eat up in the future?

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than just the next future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

    @d-bone said:

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than just the next future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

    Fair enough... To be honest it's really not fair to ask that question without even knowing who will be around come next offseason to attempt to get someone like Cousinsor to draft someone at #1.

  • And then at the top of the 2nd round, take a shot at Mayfield and train him up. Teach him to be pro, keep the intensity but channel that into respectable fire.

    Go Kizer, Hogan and Mayfield and "let" the cream rise to the top.

  • @poeticg said:

    Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

    Is Hogan getting his noodle arm replaced by a legitimate NFL arm in the offseason in your scenario PoG?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Is Hogan getting his noodle arm replaced by a legitimate NFL arm in the offseason in your scenario PoG?

    You know full well that Crazy Kev doesn't have a noodle arm. It just happens to be windy whenever he plays.

  • @d-bone said:

    I'm so tired of the Browns shopping at the Good Will for their next QB of the future, that I really wouldn't care. I can't remember just how many years its been that we've heard "the Browns are XYZ million below the salary cap" and that coupled with the historic amount of loses has me wanting a guy that has proven he can play at a high level in the NFL, rather than just the next future ex-rookie Browns QB bust.

    Another rook QB at #1 next year all but seals next year's 3-13 fate...... and I just don't have another 365 days in me. 

    Fair enough... To be honest it's really not fair to ask that question without even knowing who will be around come next offseason to attempt to get someone like Cousinsor to draft someone at #1.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Fair enough... To be honest it's really not fair to ask that question without even knowing who will be around come next offseason to attempt to get someone like Cousinsor to draft someone at #1.

    Man, it seems like a lifetime ago that we beat the Bungles on Thursday night to go 7-3 with Hoyer just playing 'adequately'...... Then the wheels were yanked off by Johnny and Jimmy. 

    Our defense is beginning to look 'adequate' and if we can get a professional level play designer / caller as well as a veteran (not old) QB to play at just a B level performance, then Sheet, we may just be on to something. 

  • Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

    @poeticg said:

    Wow, this is exactly what I called for a few weeks ago. 

    Barkley and Ridley. 

    Barkley, Duke, Njoku, DeValve, Gordon, Coleman, Ridley and Hogan. Top 5 Offense in the NFL.

    Oh yeah maybe the best RB & WR duo I could live with that. -OR- dare we think it trade the #1 or #8ish picks and still get great picks plus a servicible QB later....can't have enough picks 😆

    Hell I can't even think what I want for Christmas yet.

  • And then at the top of the 2nd round, take a shot at Mayfield and train him up. Teach him to be pro, keep the intensity but channel that into respectable fire.

    Go Kizer, Hogan and Mayfield and "let" the cream rise to the top.

    @poeticg said:

    Go Kizer, Hogan and Mayfield and "let" the cream rise to the top.

    Does anyone remember the Friends episode where Joey keeps using air quotes wrong?

  • Barkley that early-No-not impressed. I'd rather steal Georgia's Chubb in round 2. He actually waits for his line to open the holes and has the vision to find them.

  • @poeticg said:

    Go Kizer, Hogan and Mayfield and "let" the cream rise to the top.

    Does anyone remember the Friends episode where Joey keeps using air quotes wrong?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Does anyone remember the Friends episode where Joey keeps using air quotes wrong?

    Friends? Wasn't that a "chick" show? 😍