Sashi fired
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Sashi, one of the factors in this turd pile, is gone. The complaining will subside for the moment. Hue should have been pink slipped as well.
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I don' understand firing sashi unless Haslam has his eye on someone else.
Our failures are 100% on Hue. He is the one who wanted Kessler (who didn't play bad last year and turned to Sheet under his tutelage)
He is the one who hasn' brought in a OC and the offense is worse than last year.
Hue is the one responsible for our team being undisciplined.
Hue is the one that can't get challenge right.
So what did sashi do wrong? Passing on a D2 QB with the #2 overall pick and racking up picks for it. Wentz wasn't a sure thing I understand that. The one bonehead move is the Britt deal but I don't think it's a fireable offense
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Stosh was with the Jags for 5 years. Losing years. He left, they got better. Maybe after 4 1/2 years here, he'll do the same. Being smug and arrogant or s one thing. Blowing a trade on draft day when the boss said go did him in. Doesn't matter if you like the trade or not. Stosh could make a trade with no timeline but not on the last day. He blew it with the paperwork. Or he disobeyed a direct order from haslam. That'll get you too.. passed on way to many playmaker type players for magic beans. Good phukking riddance to bad news. And hue may only have till the end of the season.
Bernie Kosar for GM!
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Agree with this article 100%
I don't see how anybody who has watched this team the past 2 years can be okay with Hue Jackson being our coach in 2018...
Sashi... I couldve seen 1 more year with all the assets he has in place...
I guess we're "trying again" but please... do not let Hue be part of it.
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While I shed no tears for Sashi Brown getting fired today, if he did indeed sabotage the McCarron for a 2nd and 3rd rounder trade, he should have a statue built in his honor in front of the Browns stadium.
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Yeah the rest of those picks are great! I bet if they played football they would win a bunch of....oh they are historical levels of terrible.
Cdl may have been one of Sashi’s scouts given his blind eye for talent.
I don't quite understand how someone could post the draft picks of the last two seasons and think that is a case to keep Sashi.
There's a ton of quantity, pretty lean on quality.
I don't quite understand how someone could post the draft picks of the last two seasons and think that is a case to keep Sashi.
There's a ton of quantity, pretty lean on quality.
The PD article listed the "hits". I'll limit it to Garrett (no brainer) and Njoku. Jury out on the rest.
Jesus Christ some of you are the whiniest bitches I’ve ever heard.
Plenty to "bitch" about TC. Glad you think 1-27 is all peaches and cream.
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While I shed no tears for Sashi Brown getting fired today, if he did indeed sabotage the McCarron for a 2nd and 3rd rounder trade, he should have a statue built in his honor in front of the Browns stadium.
While I shed no tears for Sashi Brown getting fired today, if he did indeed sabotage the McCarron for a 2nd and 3rd rounder trade, he should have a statue built in his honor in front of the Browns stadium.
Can't be sure about anything with this organization. As Dbones says, I would have expected Hue getting fired before Sashi. Hopefully that same McCarron deal will not come through this offseason. Oh my god, I can hear the laughter of the media already.
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton manning wouldnt even contemplate having anything to do with cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton manning wouldnt even contemplate having anything to do with cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
I'm calling BS. Kessler was HUES GUY. He's said it himself. The FO gave Hue his guy last year AND his CHOICE QB RG3. They also picked out an analytic QB in Hogan. Then after the season, RG3 was cut because he found out he isn't who he thought he was. This still gives Hue Kessler, his choice QB, going into his second year.
Osweiler was never considered to be the starter by the FO, that was just a bonus outcome-stretch of picking up a 16 million dollar second round pick. It helped the Texans and it helped us with our draft strategy. Still the F.O. goes out and gets a discount QB ala Kizer in the 2nd round to compete with Kessler and Hogan. Of course, Hue starts him since he finds out Kessler isn't who he thought he was.
This is on Hue. Plenty of talent to win here... apparently better than 25 other NFL teams, according to one NFL player. I repeat, this is on Hue.
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@boo-fagley said:
But Sashi wiffed bad on Watson.
He gambled that all the 2017 QBs were basically the same and lost. Everything lined up against him.
And we still have a coach with an NFL WORST 1-27 record. Soon to be 1-31.
I’ve been saying this for weeks.
FIRE THEM ALL
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The aj mccarron deal was a desperation move on hues part cause he was saddled in the offseason with ossweiler, kessler, hogan and kizer. Think about that. Peyton manning wouldnt even contemplate having anything to do with cleveland with "that" qb situation.
Hue wants mccarron as someone to play fir the team while the #1 pick next year studies under him.
I'm calling BS. Kessler was HUES GUY. He's said it himself. The FO gave Hue his guy last year AND his CHOICE QB RG3. They also picked out an analytic QB in Hogan. Then after the season, RG3 was cut because he found out he isn't who he thought he was. This still gives Hue Kessler, his choice QB, going into his second year.
Osweiler was never considered to be the starter by the FO, that was just a bonus outcome-stretch of picking up a 16 million dollar second round pick. It helped the Texans and it helped us with our draft strategy. Still the F.O. goes out and gets a discount QB ala Kizer in the 2nd round to compete with Kessler and Hogan. Of course, Hue starts him since he finds out Kessler isn't who he thought he was.
This is on Hue. Plenty of talent to win here... apparently better than 25 other NFL teams, according to one NFL player. I repeat, this is on Hue.
I'm calling BS. Kessler was HUES GUY. He's said it himself. The FO gave Hue his guy last year AND his CHOICE QB RG3. They also picked out an analytic QB in Hogan. Then after the season, RG3 was cut because he found out he isn't who he thought he was. This still gives Hue Kessler, his choice QB, going into his second year.
Osweiler was never considered to be the starter by the FO, that was just a bonus outcome-stretch of picking up a 16 million dollar second round pick. It helped the Texans and it helped us with our draft strategy. Still the F.O. goes out and gets a discount QB ala Kizer in the 2nd round to compete with Kessler and Hogan. Of course, Hue starts him since he finds out Kessler isn't who he thought he was.
This is on Hue. Plenty of talent to win here... apparently better than 25 other NFL teams, according to one NFL player. I repeat, this is on Hue.
How is the president of the Kevin Hogan fan club today?
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Whether or not we agree with the firing of Sashi, it HAS happened & those of us who remain as Browns' Fans will deal with whatever happens in the future.
Personally (IMHO) regardless of won-lost record, this Browns' Team is in better shape , talent wise, than it was 2 years ago. That being said, we have sorely neglected offensive playmakers & that may well have been Sashi's demise. While none of us know what has really taken place within the organization, many questions may be answered by future actions/reactions.......
Mike
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The Joe Haden thing killed Sashi. Haden was close to Joe Thomas in fan support.
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The Joe Haden thing killed Sashi. Haden was close to Joe Thomas in fan support.
Three years ago.
People who don't live under power lines realized that his best days are past and lo and behold, he's missed a big chunk of the season again.
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Three years ago.
People who don't live under power lines realized that his best days are past and lo and behold, he's missed a big chunk of the season again.
Powerlines don't matter if you wear one of these foil caps. Want one?
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Three years ago.
People who don't live under power lines realized that his best days are past and lo and behold, he's missed a big chunk of the season again.
Powerlines don't matter if you wear one of these foil caps. Want one?
Powerlines don't matter if you wear one of these foil caps. Want one?
That was actually a quality retort PoG, my "foil" hat off to you!
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If you sack the GM but GAUARANTEE the HC his job, you’re telling all the players here they should never have been on this roster.
The Browns today went back five years. Again.
Yep.
What a complete and total shitshow..... Too bad being historically inept wasn't the ultimate goal, as the Browns would've surely phucked that up and won the Super Bowl by accident.
Worst thing about it Jimmy? I really don't care all that much anymore......
Oh shut up D Bone. You’ve gotta he kidding me. How are you going to complain when this is EXACTLY what you wanted?
and you guys get offended when people tell you you whine just to whine.
You got what you wanted. Zip it with the crying.
You people think the FO dropped the likes of Schwartz and Mack because they didn’t think they were any good?
No they did it because the brief Haslam GAVE THEM was to strip down and start again. Jimmy said it himself it was a five year plan.
And after 1.5 years he’s bailed.
Shmuck this.
With our fans though, who can blame him? They have exactly the organization their impatience deserves.
Oh shut up D Bone. You’ve gotta he kidding me. How are you going to complain when this is EXACTLY what you wanted?
and you guys get offended when people tell you you whine just to whine.
You got what you wanted. Zip it with the crying.
Someone needs a hug
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Sashi earned his pink slip. No matter what you think of the players he drafted, he basically ignored the QB position. I would be very curious to know the QB conversations between Sashi and Hue leading up to the drafts and in free agency. If Hue wanted Wentz or Watson and Sashi opted against it, no way I am going to hold Hue accountable, if he was against those guys then his QB judgement comes into question. Its something we may never really know. I understand people think Hue should go to and its hard to argue against it, but I think 3 years shows you are willing to give a coach time and given the roster makeup, how many games would you expect Hue to have won by now, 2.....3? I don't think we could have won more than 2 and one of those losses is squarely on DeShone. It will be interesting to see how the Browns approach the draft and free agency this year.
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The Joe Haden thing killed Sashi. Haden was close to Joe Thomas in fan support.
It may have been one of the final nails, but it wasn't the first- or the last. The first was the whiff on Wentz, the last was the botched trade for McCarron. If Haslam gave that deal the green light, (in the attempt to actually win a game this year) and Sashi blew it on purpose- that's direct insubordination to your boss, and plenty enough to get you fired.
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I WILL restate what I have said among friends for a long time...I will not be surprised to read or hear one day that Sashi becomes Goodell's successor. Say what we may but Sashi Brown is a brilliant man. He'll land on his feet.
Mike
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@boo-fagley said:
But Sashi wiffed bad on Watson.
Just because Watson got his RG3 on for a few games before he blew his knee up going against air doesn’t mean the Browns should’ve drafted him...
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