Dorsey Hired
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For the GM spot? That wasn't available at the time?
Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster.
Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster.
That makes a lot of sense.
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It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:
Pioli and Vrabel
Caserio and McDaniels.
Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync. Dorsey and Hue however? Someone used the term: shotgun marriage.
It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:
Pioli and Vrabel
Caserio and McDaniels.
Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync. Dorsey and Hue however? Someone used the term: shotgun marriage.
Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise.
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It has been rumored that there are some GM/coach "package" deals that may be out there:
Pioli and Vrabel
Caserio and McDaniels.
Point is, these would be GMs/coaches that would be in sync. Dorsey and Hue however? Someone used the term: shotgun marriage.
Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise.
Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise.
What did I say about dumpster fireWhat did I say about dumpster fire
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Also from what I have read he got let go in Kansas City not because of his player selection, but because he was unorganized and was Sheet at communicating with the coaches and others in the front office. Apparently this became a big issue when his assistant GM left in 2015 who was apparently the one keeping everyone up to date on what he was doing.
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I guess I'm an influencer and they listened to me when some hours ago I asked to sign him NOW, lol.
Well, I'm less bitter now. I believe he's a solid GM and this doesn't leave the front office 'headless' to prepare the offseason.
I guess I'm an influencer and they listened to me when some hours ago I asked to sign him NOW, lol.
Well, I'm less bitter now. I believe he's a solid GM and this doesn't leave the front office 'headless' to prepare the offseason.
Makes me believe the Peyton rumors can be put to bed, too.
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People are bitching about the Rooney rule. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Singletary was brought in for an interview a few weeks ago right?
People are bitching about the Rooney rule. If I'm not mistaken, Mike Singletary was brought in for an interview a few weeks ago right?
Yep. It was reported at that time that Singletary was NOT interviewed for the HC position. Good catch Harry!
Mike
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Or, and this might sound crazy, we keep a coach for his third year to help actually attract someone to take a job at our dumpster fire of a franchise.
What did I say about dumpster fireWhat did I say about dumpster fire
What did I say about dumpster fireWhat did I say about dumpster fire
That you love the phrase "dumpster fire" That you love the phrase "dumpster fire"
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You know what's fun? This team somehow was so secretive in their interviewing process, that no one really knows who they interviewed to the point that the guy who suggests minority canidates to teams is apparently going to bitch to the NFL because he doesn't know they interviewed Singletary.
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The
@Browns have hired John Dorsey to become Cleveland's general manager, per league sources. He will be introduced at a press conference Friday.The
@Browns have hired John Dorsey to become Cleveland's general manager, per league sources. He will be introduced at a press conference Friday.Count me as not surprised...
I read that they have had a private firm vetting him for about a month.
Again, count me as not surprised... the Haslam\Hue\McCarron meeting on the field- the Owner\Hue\players meeting minus Sashi. The tea leaves were there, if we wanted to read them....
It's done this way in any large company.
I've heard of an organization bringing a guy in to "show him the ropes" and then firing the guy who trained him....
Here is the thing, I don't think Sashi was the GM. His title was always Vice President of football operations. He however had control of the roster. The people they had been interviewing have been for a GM position that would have been available without Sashi being fired, which was their original plan according to reports. The big reason Sashi likely got fired was most likely because Dorsey said he wouldn't take the job without control of the roster.
Could it have been (unlikely) they asked Sashi to go back to his old job as beancounter, and he wouldn't accept the demotion?
PS I sure hope Dorsey is better than those last two "football guys" Farmer and Holmgren...
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As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go.
I, for one, am glad to see that Jimmuh had his ducks lined up properly this time. HAVE your new guy in hand before you fire.
Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland?
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As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go.
I, for one, am glad to see that Jimmuh had his ducks lined up properly this time. HAVE your new guy in hand before you fire.
Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland?
As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go.
Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland?
Yeah, in Sashi's position, personal pride would prevent him from accepting a demotion, regardless of how good he might be on the contract end. Who's next on the way out the door? My money is on DePo getting sent packing...
Ha, Peyton as a "special Consultant" sure. BTW, IIRC Jim Brown has that title, and he doesn't live in Cleveland...
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As some of us mentioned before...if a football guy was being brought in to have control of the roster...then Sashi would be let go. In the grand scheme of things, that's the only way it could go down. Sashi would HAVE TO be let go.
Where's Peyton Manning's new house in Cleveland?
Yeah, in Sashi's position, personal pride would prevent him from accepting a demotion, regardless of how good he might be on the contract end. Who's next on the way out the door? My money is on DePo getting sent packing...
Ha, Peyton as a "special Consultant" sure. BTW, IIRC Jim Brown has that title, and he doesn't live in Cleveland...
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My short lived exile has been postponed on this hire... Also anyone thinking this is a pure football guy?
http://decisionlens.com/customers/kansas-city-chiefs
That's the analytics company contracted by John Dorsey for the chiefs. Feel free to read the case study about "moneyball" being used by dorsey as far back as 2009 in the selection of Clay Matthews. If anything we have DOUBLED DOWN on analytics rather than strayed away from them.
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What’s that? Cheat your costumers?
if my 'costumers' came up with that wardrobe they'd be cheated, s.h.i.t.e. on and then FIRED.
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My short lived exile has been postponed on this hire... Also anyone thinking this is a pure football guy?
http://decisionlens.com/customers/kansas-city-chiefs
That's the analytics company contracted by John Dorsey for the chiefs. Feel free to read the case study about "moneyball" being used by dorsey as far back as 2009 in the selection of Clay Matthews. If anything we have DOUBLED DOWN on analytics rather than strayed away from them.
My short lived exile has been postponed on this hire... Also anyone thinking this is a pure football guy?
http://decisionlens.com/customers/kansas-city-chiefs
That's the analytics company contracted by John Dorsey for the chiefs. Feel free to read the case study about "moneyball" being used by dorsey as far back as 2009 in the selection of Clay Matthews. If anything we have DOUBLED DOWN on analytics rather than strayed away from them.
All teams use Analytics and have for years. The difference is what position they hold in the organization - are they making the decisions or just providing the decision-makers with the data and analysis. In this case, it looks like he outsourced the Analytics instead of having it done internally.
I'm a bit concerned with a few other red flags.
If he's really a disorganized guy who doesn't keep the rest of the organization informed, this could become a huge problem.
It's also apparent that Hue has the owner's ear. If he can go over the GM's head, we could be in for another round of FO in-fighting for the next two years and end up with another cluster-f. Two years seems to be Haslam's limit, despite any statements made publicly.
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when the browns decide to go outside the box i guess it means someone wiping down the floor after them later with bleach.
i've picked a KC/Detroit SB every year and both crap out worse than a marvin lewis HCed team.....
if haslam had listened to fans bernie would be sitting at a desk with his scotch looking at a one paged yellow binder scribbled note, closing his eyes, rolling the dice and praying no snake eyes....or box cars.
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I have absolutely no faith in anyone that’s seen the last two years and agreed to keep Hue Jackson as head coach.
None.
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Shmuck mccarron. if he was sooo good he'd be starting somewhere.
dorsey might be a saviour or might be another huge flippin whiff. give me the draft and TC to figure him out.
god help us if Hue has anyone's ear (in a jar on a shelf). i think this marks the beginning of the Mayfield 6 game era in cleveland.
Hue talking to dee haslam:
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Jesus Christ that was fast
Jesus Christ that was fast
Not really. He bought Cowhers house in Berea 2 months ago.
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