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  • cdl15 cdl15C Very Popular
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    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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    Keep this sweet and simple. Bench the turd that is Crowell. Play the kid. 4 carries all year is rediculous.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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      Keep this sweet and simple. Bench the turd that is Crowell. Play the kid. 4 carries all year is rediculous.

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      NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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      @cdl15 said:

      Keep this sweet and simple. Bench the turd that is Crowell. Play the kid. 4 carries all year is rediculous.

      Agreed. If you aren't going to bench Crowell, at least give Dayes some more snaps every game. I wish Hue wasn't so stubborn...

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        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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        Crowell has a career average of over 4 yards a carry. Not great, but not exactly "turd level".

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          cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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          He is the furthest thing away from.a HR hitter. Yet I have absolutely no faith in a 3&1 let.alone 3&3 or goal line situations. 

          I will give the guy credit he is never injured. I hate hoping someone get hurt but Issah "3rd and 7" Crowell is an iron Man

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

            Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

            I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

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              What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

              Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

              I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

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              @dutch-oven said:

              What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

              Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

              I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

              I am not saying to bench him, but we don't have a good running game. 

              That makes me think: are we going to get a RB this offseason? If so, who is leaving? Duke Johnson is a playmaker and makes yard both running and catching, we know what we got on Crowell BUT we don't know what Dayes has, and he's the best returner in the team (not magic, but still quite decent).

              Probably Hue's playcalling and Kizer's problems playing under center have affected our running backs, and we already have our rushing unit already set, but if we are looking on improving it adding a piece I believe someone needs to leave, and to make the right decision we should check out Dayes.

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                @dutch-oven said:

                What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

                I am not saying to bench him, but we don't have a good running game. 

                That makes me think: are we going to get a RB this offseason? If so, who is leaving? Duke Johnson is a playmaker and makes yard both running and catching, we know what we got on Crowell BUT we don't know what Dayes has, and he's the best returner in the team (not magic, but still quite decent).

                Probably Hue's playcalling and Kizer's problems playing under center have affected our running backs, and we already have our rushing unit already set, but if we are looking on improving it adding a piece I believe someone needs to leave, and to make the right decision we should check out Dayes.

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                @nero said:

                I am not saying to bench him, but we don't have a good running game. 

                That makes me think: are we going to get a RB this offseason? If so, who is leaving? Duke Johnson is a playmaker and makes yard both running and catching, we know what we got on Crowell BUT we don't know what Dayes has, and he's the best returner in the team (not magic, but still quite decent).

                Probably Hue's playcalling and Kizer's problems playing under center have affected our running backs, and we already have our rushing unit already set, but if we are looking on improving it adding a piece I believe someone needs to leave, and to make the right decision we should check out Dayes.

                Crow is a free agent after this season, I expect that the Browns will let him walk. I could see a couple RBs being drafted.

                Want to help the running game? Don't bail on it the second you are behind, and get the passing game competent.

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                  jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                  Crowell can run like a pro bowler IF he blindly stumbles into a running lane. His field vision is amongst the worst in the league. He also has the balance of a one legged dizzy giraffe. I can't count how many times I've literally saw him just fall down or trip on his own feet. 

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                    jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                    It's time to see what Dayes can do...I agree. Crow simply CANNOT see "left", and he can't improvise good enough. I've seen so many holes to the left of the line, yet Crow just barrels into the line. Conversely, Duke has shown the ability to improvise at times and several of his best runs bounced to the left. Dayes is hungry...let him have a shot. 

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                      What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                      Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                      I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                      Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                      I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

                      I had honestly forgotten about the picture. Crow does not have great vision or balance. When he is on, Crow is a good RB. When not, he can get tripped by ghosts and miss big running lanes.

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                        He is the furthest thing away from.a HR hitter. Yet I have absolutely no faith in a 3&1 let.alone 3&3 or goal line situations. 

                        I will give the guy credit he is never injured. I hate hoping someone get hurt but Issah "3rd and 7" Crowell is an iron Man

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                        dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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                        @cdl15 said:

                        He is the furthest thing away from.a HR hitter. Yet I have absolutely no faith in a 3&1 let.alone 3&3 or goal line situations. 

                        I will give the guy credit he is never injured. I hate hoping someone get hurt but Issah "3rd and 7" Crowell is an iron Man

                        Who on average would be running the ball on 3rd and 7 anyway.  Like Dutch said, he's a 4 yard carrier on average.  Why bench him?  Still better than most RBs in the league.  On 1st down, most teams have 6 guys in the pocket to be certain he doesn't get much.  And he still gets 3 or more yards. Pretty good. 

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Crow's one exceptional attribute is accelerating into the hole.

                          The "catch" is that the hole has to be where it was drawn up.

                          I think the reason we've not seen Dayes is his poor blocking.

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                            Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                            I get we are still trying to get 1 win, but we know Crow won't be here next year and Dayes looks like he has a spot on the roster as a kick returner. What would be best for the franchise is to see how Duke Johnson does with a higher work load (the fact he isn't getting at least 50% of the carries is mind boggling), and to see how Dayes does with at least 5 to 10 carries the rest of the season. 

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              Ask the Gipper how often Crowell runs it up the gut on 1st and 10.

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                                cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                I don't think Duke can handle a much bigger load. He still volunteers for substitution alot ESPECIALLY after a big run or catch play.

                                "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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                                  cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                  Crowell has been caught from behind on plays that should be touchdowns as often as Joe Haden slips and falls down on your home field.

                                  Plus no rb benefits more than ripping off 30-40 yrd runs. 10 runs for 10 yards and then rips one for 34 on a play that should be a TD then everyone is like "well he averaging 4 yrds a carry" not even mentioning 4of his 11 carries go for 0- neg yards on 1st and second down

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                                    cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                    Sorry just not that high on a guy that has only 3 TDs from outside the red zone in his whole career.  Hell Trent Richardson had 3 in his rookie season alone.

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      Look im not a huge crow fan. I think he's a tweener and we could potentially draft a true power back in the offseason that scares people. That being said, wtf are u all talking about? Crows bern running pretty decent.

                                      Yes when things stack up near the goal line our running game stalls but that also is partly on the o line. I mean for sure isish crowell is one of the players least responsible for our woes. I wouldnt hate it if he was on the team next year but obviously think that a true mook like that bama kid is a better compliment to duke and/or dayes

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                                      • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

                                        What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                                        Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                                        I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

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                                        jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                                        Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                                        I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

                                        Back to the instagram pic SMH!! I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to not understand it's not on him when he's hit instantly in the backfield. Care to comment on the other 90% of the time when there are semi sized lanes he ignores as he crawls up the butt of the lineman in front of him? Then there's his balance, imagine him trying to do a pin move like Dayes, LOL he'd fall down immediately. 

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                                          @dutch-oven said:

                                          What I love is Crowell getting handed the ball, he takes a step and is instantly nailed by two defenders, and people on here instantly post: "CROW IS A BUM, HE'S BLIND!"

                                          Yet when the same thing happens to Duke, not a word is uttered.

                                          I'm sure it has nothing to do with Crow's instagram pic from last year. Nothing at all. It's because the guy who averaged damn near 5 yards a carry last season has all the sudden gone Ray Charles.

                                          Back to the instagram pic SMH!! I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to not understand it's not on him when he's hit instantly in the backfield. Care to comment on the other 90% of the time when there are semi sized lanes he ignores as he crawls up the butt of the lineman in front of him? Then there's his balance, imagine him trying to do a pin move like Dayes, LOL he'd fall down immediately. 

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                                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                          @jcam222 said:

                                          Back to the instagram pic SMH!! I doubt anyone here is stupid enough to not understand it's not on him when he's hit instantly in the backfield. Care to comment on the other 90% of the time when there are semi sized lanes he ignores as he crawls up the butt of the lineman in front of him? Then there's his balance, imagine him trying to do a pin move like Dayes, LOL he'd fall down immediately. 

                                          I sure do love a good pin move, for sure.

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