Vita Vea and Danny Shelton would be a more talented Siragusa and Adams.
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Vea and Shelton would give this team two unblockable monsters in the middle like no other NFL team. Great teams set trends. Losing teams play catch-up. Centers and guards wouldn't know what hit 'em. Push up the middle disrupts any offense. Build the defense inside out. Shelton was a great pick. Give him a brother in arms.
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If we're looking at a DT... Maybe we can take PFFs highest rated player overall from this season?
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If we're looking at a DT... Maybe we can take PFFs highest rated player overall from this season?
If we're looking at a DT... Maybe we can take PFFs highest rated player overall from this season?
Already ahead of you. Been watching him wondering what kind of 3tech id like to see for this defense.
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Nobody from Michigan.
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If we're looking at a DT... Maybe we can take PFFs highest rated player overall from this season?
Already ahead of you. Been watching him wondering what kind of 3tech id like to see for this defense.
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Id use hurst as a DE in some packages. Line him up at the 4-5 spot. My ideal d is a 4-3 with one of the DE's in that 3-4 5T mold. Basically a watt type u line up either over the tackle or shaded to the outside shoulder. U can have the wide tech guy on the other side. That gives u one guy who rushes up high and the other guy who cuts a tighter power edge.
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Remember you saying that was the Harrison guy you wanted? Well, Mo actually fits that description.
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Hey, if they want to draft Mo I won't stop them, we just have bigger needs. QB then DB in the top 10 is more likely. And Mo will be gone earlier.
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For the record, was anyone here a fan of Siragusa and Adams on the 2000 Ravens D. I get they were run-stuffers, but I think what they opened up for the rest of the defense made up for the lack of pass-rush. You can't double young Vea, Shelton AND Garrett. All day? Unlikely. Line of scrimmage controlled.
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For the record, was anyone here a fan of Siragusa and Adams on the 2000 Ravens D. I get they were run-stuffers, but I think what they opened up for the rest of the defense made up for the lack of pass-rush. You can't double young Vea, Shelton AND Garrett. All day? Unlikely. Line of scrimmage controlled.
For the record, was anyone here a fan of Siragusa and Adams on the 2000 Ravens D. I get they were run-stuffers, but I think what they opened up for the rest of the defense made up for the lack of pass-rush. You can't double young Vea, Shelton and Garrett. Most O-Lines couldn't handle all 3. If any.
Don't think you're taking into consideration the evolution of the passing game in 17 years coupled with the fact our defense doesn't have Ray, Boulware, Sharper, Woodson or McAlister walking through that door.
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Remember you saying that was the Harrison guy you wanted? Well, Mo actually fits that description.
Remember you saying that was the Harrison guy you wanted? Well, Mo actually fits that description.
i'd be happy with both but prob have to spend that 2nd 1st rounder on hurst.
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Bear defense ftw
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For the record, was anyone here a fan of Siragusa and Adams on the 2000 Ravens D. I get they were run-stuffers, but I think what they opened up for the rest of the defense made up for the lack of pass-rush. You can't double young Vea, Shelton and Garrett. Most O-Lines couldn't handle all 3. If any.
Don't think you're taking into consideration the evolution of the passing game in 17 years coupled with the fact our defense doesn't have Ray, Boulware, Sharper, Woodson or McAlister walking through that door.
Don't think you're taking into consideration the evolution of the passing game in 17 years coupled with the fact our defense doesn't have Ray, Boulware, Sharper, Woodson or McAlister walking through that door.
Undersized pass rush D-Lineman getting manhandled by average sized O-Lineman allow pocket QB's all day to throw. Make them block monsters up the middle then bring the pain from every angle. D-Line trumps secondary. Can't cover without pressure. Also, this team could have drafted Reuben Foster or Malik Hooker. They clearly had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed potential coming out. Or keep trading down until all the best prospects are off the board.
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Don't think you're taking into consideration the evolution of the passing game in 17 years coupled with the fact our defense doesn't have Ray, Boulware, Sharper, Woodson or McAlister walking through that door.
Undersized pass rush D-Lineman getting manhandled by average sized O-Lineman allow pocket QB's all day to throw. Make them block monsters up the middle then bring the pain from every angle. D-Line trumps secondary. Can't cover without pressure. Also, this team could have drafted Reuben Foster or Malik Hooker. They clearly had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed potential coming out. Or keep trading down until all the best prospects are off the board.
Undersized pass rush D-Lineman getting manhandled by average sized O-Lineman allow pocket QB's all day to throw. Make them block monsters up the middle then bring the pain from every angle. D-Line trumps secondary. Can't cover without pressure. Also, this team could have drafted Reuben Foster or Malik Hooker. They clearly had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed potential coming out. Or keep trading down until all the best prospects are off the board.
Off the top of my head - Aaron Donald, Campbell, Easley, Mike Daniels, Cox, Grady Garrett and Sheldon Richardson might have a beef with what you just said.
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i'd be happy with both but prob have to spend that 2nd 1st rounder on hurst.
Not so sure about that right now.
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i'd be happy with both but prob have to spend that 2nd 1st rounder on hurst.
Not so sure about that right now.
Not so sure about that right now.
I thought I read Hurst is projected mid'ish 1st round....
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I thought I read Hurst is projected mid'ish 1st round....
Well, I've watched Penn State, Florida and as I type vs Sparty. All this season. I see good Sheet here and there, but - I don't think I'm watching the next Aaron Donald either. Right now I'm just jotting down thoughts as I go. I'm sure I'll watch all these twice with the proper pauses and get into more detail then.
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I thought I read Hurst is projected mid'ish 1st round....
Well, I've watched Penn State, Florida and as I type vs Sparty. All this season. I see good Sheet here and there, but - I don't think I'm watching the next Aaron Donald either. Right now I'm just jotting down thoughts as I go. I'm sure I'll watch all these twice with the proper pauses and get into more detail then.
Well, I've watched Penn State, Florida and as I type vs Sparty. All this season. I see good Sheet here and there, but - I don't think I'm watching the next Aaron Donald either. Right now I'm just jotting down thoughts as I go. I'm sure I'll watch all these twice with the proper pauses and get into more detail then.
that phillips kid could be a later round steal. That guy is NFL strong right now.
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Well, I've watched Penn State, Florida and as I type vs Sparty. All this season. I see good Sheet here and there, but - I don't think I'm watching the next Aaron Donald either. Right now I'm just jotting down thoughts as I go. I'm sure I'll watch all these twice with the proper pauses and get into more detail then.
that phillips kid could be a later round steal. That guy is NFL strong right now.
that phillips kid could be a later round steal. That guy is NFL strong right now.
Well I'm looking more at players that can be interior pass rushers even if it just means subpackages. This defense desperately needs to be able to pressure the QB outside of sending a 5th & 6th man. Danny, Jobi, Coley, Jamie - they're all 1 gap pluggers. And you need those kind of boys, but I'm trying to find somebody like Brantley that might be able to come in and add to our rotation with interior penetration. That bigs with the swim moves. Harrison would be an upgrade over Meder without a question. I don't think he can turn his legs like Jobi or Coley.
I've got two videos going for comparison and I keep hearing about this Wilkins kid from Clemson and the 'stud' he is. Auburn appears to be handling him quite well.
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Undersized pass rush D-Lineman getting manhandled by average sized O-Lineman allow pocket QB's all day to throw. Make them block monsters up the middle then bring the pain from every angle. D-Line trumps secondary. Can't cover without pressure. Also, this team could have drafted Reuben Foster or Malik Hooker. They clearly had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed potential coming out. Or keep trading down until all the best prospects are off the board.
Off the top of my head - Aaron Donald, Campbell, Easley, Mike Daniels, Cox, Grady Garrett and Sheldon Richardson might have a beef with what you just said.
Off the top of my head - Aaron Donald, Campbell, Easley, Mike Daniels, Cox, Grady Garrett and Sheldon Richardson might have a beef with what you just said.
Exceptions to the rule. High motor great athletes. Stuff the middle. Go speculate on fringe pro prospects.
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