Why hasn't Gregg Williams Been Called Out for that Prevent BS Defense that cost us the game?
-
To his defense there were a lot of key starters out for this game, 2 corners, peppers, Shelton, also Collins. Garret was not himself either playing with injury. We don't have the depth yet we need with those key injuries. Played a more vanilla defense the whole game. Not an excuse however every team has injuries.
To his defense there were a lot of key starters out for this game, 2 corners, peppers, Shelton, also Collins. Garret was not himself either playing with injury. We don't have the depth yet we need with those key injuries. Played a more vanilla defense the whole game. Not an excuse however every team has injuries.
Ogbah. Yes, the defense was missing a lot. That still does not explain this style of giving 6-10 yards of cushion.
-
I just think he has to be covering for a lack of talent at cb and fs. Can't put cover cb's out there when you don't have em...
low scoring game vs being beaten 55 - 10?
-
Depth is an ongoing problem. We had no depth in 99 and don't now.
And every year in between. Difference is when Dorsey draft some defensive Playmakers this year the guys that they replace will become really good depth something the Browns have never had
And every year in between. Difference is when Dorsey draft some defensive Playmakers this year the guys that they replace will become really good depth something the Browns have never had
Hopefully that's the way it will work. Right now I believe Dorsey is looking at HC candidates. That and a franchise QB. If anyone thinks Hue will be here in February....puffpuffpass
-
Ogbah, Collins, 0.5 of Garrett, Shelton... I'm surprised the game was competitive. Our entire starting defense was already our depth. The only first-game non-FA starters out there were Kirksey [3rd round] and... Kindred [4th round].
If you're calling Williams out I'm calling you out for unrealistic expectations.
-
I am glad you posted this thread, I was watching this game in disbelief that we were in the prevent right after half time. That is the dumbest Sheet ever. I was watching it with Sisky Fringo (His name on here) and we got in a huge argument over it. He was saying it was the smart play smh. Maybe go to the prevent if you are up 21-7 with 5 min left in the game But not the entire 2nd half. We only rushed 3 guys the 2nd half.smh.
-
Greg Williams Blows. I told you he would be no more successful than Horton.
Why prevent? Simple, his D was gassed from blitzing 2 out of 3 downs. This guy is no defensive genius, he turns the volume up to 11 and then hopes crap happens. Aggressive? Yes. A Good DC? Fukck no. He blows.
-
There was no specific comments on the threads ( 'our D' and 'our D sucks'), but there were some comments here and there about what a terrible decision was going Prevent too early. It is a mistake that bad teams make.
Prevent too early. It is a mistake that bad teams make.
It's also exactly what every team does.
... the Packers took five minutes off the clock in the 4th quarter with their touchdown drive... we still forced them to move the ball methodically down the field. The more plays we force them to make, the more opportunities they have to screw up.
Bingo... It's what pre-Gordon teams have done to us all year for the entire game. It's GB did in their opening drive of the 2nd half when they messed up the 4th and 1 at our 10-yl and lost 2-yd. And that was after a 3rd and 1 we stuffed for no gain.
To his defense there were a lot of key starters out for this game, 2 corners, peppers, Shelton, also Collins. Garret was not himself either playing with injury. We don't have the depth yet we need with those key injuries. Played a more vanilla defense the whole game. Not an excuse however every team has injuries.
No need to apologize for a good, rational post. There's a difference between making excuses and objective analysis.
Our deepest area on the entire team going into this season was the DL. We've suffered steady DL losses through the entire year and had two significant contributors Inactive this week.
The term depth is shorthand for "Depth of Talent". Once upon a time we had it in the DL room... not so much now.
Depth is an ongoing problem. We had no depth in 99 and don't now.
One contributing factor... changing defensive schemes every two years.
And Garrett completely disappeared.. Not what you want from a guy whose supposed to be a game changer.. He's been quite the opposite...
So he's a "game same-er"?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The as yet unaddressed corollary is that Hue got very conservative on Offense in the 2nd half.
Hell even our 3rd-QTR TD drive... the drive that started when GB turned the ball over on downs when our lame-a$$, no count D stopped them from gaining a yard on 3rd and 4th down midway thru the 3rd... was primarily on the ground.
Subsequent drives were 6 and out and 5 and out.
That and Hue undoubtedly told Gregg to go Prevent... it's what HCs do.
Phucking Ghoulified geniuses that think it was Greg that decided to go "prevent".
-
Prevent too early. It is a mistake that bad teams make.
It's also exactly what every team does.
... the Packers took five minutes off the clock in the 4th quarter with their touchdown drive... we still forced them to move the ball methodically down the field. The more plays we force them to make, the more opportunities they have to screw up.
Bingo... It's what pre-Gordon teams have done to us all year for the entire game. It's GB did in their opening drive of the 2nd half when they messed up the 4th and 1 at our 10-yl and lost 2-yd. And that was after a 3rd and 1 we stuffed for no gain.
To his defense there were a lot of key starters out for this game, 2 corners, peppers, Shelton, also Collins. Garret was not himself either playing with injury. We don't have the depth yet we need with those key injuries. Played a more vanilla defense the whole game. Not an excuse however every team has injuries.
No need to apologize for a good, rational post. There's a difference between making excuses and objective analysis.
Our deepest area on the entire team going into this season was the DL. We've suffered steady DL losses through the entire year and had two significant contributors Inactive this week.
The term depth is shorthand for "Depth of Talent". Once upon a time we had it in the DL room... not so much now.
Depth is an ongoing problem. We had no depth in 99 and don't now.
One contributing factor... changing defensive schemes every two years.
And Garrett completely disappeared.. Not what you want from a guy whose supposed to be a game changer.. He's been quite the opposite...
So he's a "game same-er"?
It's also exactly what every team does.
Bingo... It's what pre-Gordon teams have done to us all year for the entire game. It's GB did in their opening drive of the 2nd half when they messed up the 4th and 1 at our 10-yl and lost 2-yd. And that was after a 3rd and 1 we stuffed for no gain.
No need to apologize for a good, rational post. There's a difference between making excuses and objective analysis.
Our deepest area on the entire team going into this season was the DL. We've suffered steady DL losses through the entire year and had two significant contributors Inactive this week.
The term depth is shorthand for "Depth of Talent". Once upon a time we had it in the DL room... not so much now.
One contributing factor... changing defensive schemes every two years.
So he's a "game same-er"?
More like a "diaper changer"
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login