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  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Oh my good heavens the unfounded alarmist doom-criers

    Its not unfounded. Whenever dereg happens bills go up. We'll see how it plays out.

    washington state has come out and said they are going to enforce neutrality in their state. A couple more states follow suit and companies arent going to navigate state regs that vary. That'll shut this down

    @clevfan4life said:

    Its not unfounded. Whenever dereg happens bills go up. We'll see how it plays out.

    washington state has come out and said they are going to enforce neutrality in their state. A couple more states follow suit and companies arent going to navigate state regs that vary. That'll shut this down

    Good, but it's more likely they'll just say fu¢k Washington state and then some Podunk hipster internet company will try to pick up the slack and realize that it's not that easy to provide unlimited bandwidth to data hungry streaming enthusiasts 

  • Anyone with a brain understands it's just reverting back to the way it was before the Obama ruling changed in in 2015.  It's just crying from the lefties because it's undoing an Obama ruling.  Shmuck you lefties!

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Let me know how much your bill goes up in 6 months.  

    Also I'll make sure to PM Stan to see what additional costs will be tacked on to this board as well.

    Why?  This is just reverting back to the way it was before.  

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Why?  This is just reverting back to the way it was before.  

    And did read some of the shady Sheet that was starting to take place before?  Now it's just going to be all out in the open.   You ask why and I can't tell if it's genuine or you're doing your persona.  (which I might add has been pretty funny lately)

    I'm all for personal liberties and free market, but I also realize said free market can be manipulated.    This isn't Apple saying they might not have been able to launch the first Iphone with neutrality.  Suppose this board now owes extra monies to 'X' ISP...   for the exact same service they're providing now. Or worse, toss in a surcharge and if you don't pay they'll unnecessarily throttle your service.     Would you pay a mechanic extra to do the same work on your car? Hell no.   

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Why?  This is just reverting back to the way it was before.  

    And did read some of the shady Sheet that was starting to take place before?  Now it's just going to be all out in the open.   You ask why and I can't tell if it's genuine or you're doing your persona.  (which I might add has been pretty funny lately)

    I'm all for personal liberties and free market, but I also realize said free market can be manipulated.    This isn't Apple saying they might not have been able to launch the first Iphone with neutrality.  Suppose this board now owes extra monies to 'X' ISP...   for the exact same service they're providing now. Or worse, toss in a surcharge and if you don't pay they'll unnecessarily throttle your service.     Would you pay a mechanic extra to do the same work on your car? Hell no.   

    @tiamat63 said:

    And did read some of the shady Sheet that was starting to take place before?  Now it's just going to be all out in the open.   You ask why and I can't tell if it's genuine or you're doing your persona.  (which I might add has been pretty funny lately)

    I'm all for personal liberties and free market, but I also realize said free market can be manipulated.    This isn't Apple saying they might not have been able to launch the first Iphone with neutrality.  Suppose this board now owes extra monies to 'X' ISP...   for the exact same service they're providing now. Or worse, toss in a surcharge and if you don't pay they'll unnecessarily throttle your service.     Would you pay a mechanic extra to do the same work on your car? Hell no.   

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    And did read some of the shady Sheet that was starting to take place before?  Now it's just going to be all out in the open.   You ask why and I can't tell if it's genuine or you're doing your persona.  (which I might add has been pretty funny lately)

    I'm all for personal liberties and free market, but I also realize said free market can be manipulated.    This isn't Apple saying they might not have been able to launch the first Iphone with neutrality.  Suppose this board now owes extra monies to 'X' ISP...   for the exact same service they're providing now. Or worse, toss in a surcharge and if you don't pay they'll unnecessarily throttle your service.     Would you pay a mechanic extra to do the same work on your car? Hell no.   

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    @baconhound said:

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    wAAA, WAAAA, WAAAA.  stfu.

  • "It helps when titanic, media-driving Silicon Valley companies like Google and Facebook, Netflix and Amazon spend tens of millions of dollars pushing the Net Neutrality rock up the Hill.

    Big Left Coin buys lots of sound and fury – no matter how much nothing it actually signifies.

    And why did the Silicon Valley Giants spend these millions? Because Net Neutrality is the government mandating that the Silicon Valley Giants receive billions of dollars worth of free bandwidth from the ISPs.

    Their coin – was a cronyism down payment. But a tiny fraction of the government rewards they were set to reap.

    And, of course, their cronyism would inevitably, inexorably mean We the People would spend exponentially more for our bandwidth. Because ISPs have only two sets of people to charge – the Silicon Valley, and us. So Net Neutrality says we pick up the Valley’s titanic bandwidth tab – and thereby augment their titanic profits."

  • bought and paid for by corporations. shills in govt.

    doesn't matter.... stupid people will still blindly follow their party lines

  • @tiamat63 said:

    And did read some of the shady Sheet that was starting to take place before?  Now it's just going to be all out in the open.   You ask why and I can't tell if it's genuine or you're doing your persona.  (which I might add has been pretty funny lately)

    I'm all for personal liberties and free market, but I also realize said free market can be manipulated.    This isn't Apple saying they might not have been able to launch the first Iphone with neutrality.  Suppose this board now owes extra monies to 'X' ISP...   for the exact same service they're providing now. Or worse, toss in a surcharge and if you don't pay they'll unnecessarily throttle your service.     Would you pay a mechanic extra to do the same work on your car? Hell no.   

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    @baconhound said:

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

  • @baconhound said:

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

    Yeah, why should anybody be worried about receiving the advertised service on the product they pay for, right?

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

    Yeah, why should anybody be worried about receiving the advertised service on the product they pay for, right?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, why should anybody be worried about receiving the advertised service on the product they pay for, right?

    Don't pay for it then. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, why should anybody be worried about receiving the advertised service on the product they pay for, right?

    Don't pay for it then. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Don't pay for it then. 

    Good point. And if anybody is that paranoid they probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. Get yourself a shortwave radio or a ham license.

    WSS

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Don't pay for it then. 

    Good point. And if anybody is that paranoid they probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. Get yourself a shortwave radio or a ham license.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Good point. And if anybody is that paranoid they probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place. Get yourself a shortwave radio or a ham license.

    WSS

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  • A few of us on here remember when there was no internet!  No smart phones even!  How did we survive?

  • @baconhound said:

    What scares me the most are the ones who believe this does nothing.  If it doesn't do anything than why was it necessary, rhetorical.  So once that penetrates the bubble the next question is who does it benefit? Again those drinking the Kool Aid probably go to "small business and the middle class" cause that's the Trumpettes war cry.  Last time I checked small business and the middle class haven't donated MILLIONS to the same representatives that voted for this.  Finally as this illustrates how the money of corporate america shapes policy to their benefit we will get, dude that's how you create jobs.  So I guess as my internet TV options dwindle to what company will kick back the most many to Spectrum I'll be thankful my neighbor will get paid $12/hr to be a customer service rep.

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    It scares the hell out of you...that you'll have a slightly harder time...streaming internet television. 

    You must have a carefree life. 

    No what scares me is the mentality that this vote does nothing.  That it is insignificant.  That no one benefits and by extension don't see how those who benefit purchase those benefits through campaign contributions.  What also scares me when asking the supporters why this is a good idea they can only talk about it in generalities like "free market" or "capitalism".  

    When those of us opposed can easily say this allows our current internet provider to require streaming companies such as Netflix, Sling and Hulu to pay them any amount of money in order to continue to use high speed internet speeds.  Internet TV was the only thing standing in the way of "Big Cable" from gouging the hell out of consumers.  Many people decided to remove cable due to price gouging and get TV service through the internet to save money, those days are over.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Yeah, why should anybody be worried about receiving the advertised service on the product they pay for, right?

    Don't pay for it then. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Don't pay for it then. 

    Well for someone like myself that sends Sheet to work from home on the regular, I kind of need things to work as intended. 

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Don't pay for it then. 

    Well for someone like myself that sends Sheet to work from home on the regular, I kind of need things to work as intended. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well for someone like myself that sends Sheet to work from home on the regular, I kind of need things to work as intended. 

    So you are in fear, really honestly seriously, of not being able to do your job anymore because of the repeal of net neutrality? You're a smart guy doesn't that seem like a classic case of chicken little syndrome?

    WSS

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Well for someone like myself that sends Sheet to work from home on the regular, I kind of need things to work as intended. 

    So you are in fear, really honestly seriously, of not being able to do your job anymore because of the repeal of net neutrality? You're a smart guy doesn't that seem like a classic case of chicken little syndrome?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    So you are in fear, really honestly seriously, of not being able to do your job anymore because of the repeal of net neutrality? You're a smart guy doesn't that seem like a classic case of chicken little syndrome?

    WSS

    Oh I know I'll be able to get my job done, what I'm saying is there are instances - I highlight work, that require the Internet.  A net that functions as advertised and as paid for.    I was talking with a friend of mine about this just the other day.  Do I expect the net to just "shut off"?  Hell no.   However do I expect a sharp premium increase, coupled with receiving the same services (lack thereof) and in many cases prioritizing and throttling of customers to take better "plans"...? Yep.   Toss in blacking out access to certain sites and information.         There is already evidence of abuse without neutrality, that much CANNOT be argued.          Again, Stan himself may have to pay an increase on this board for a multitude of reasons that simply didn't exist pre-repeal.       

    Look to other countries in the EU for example.   Did nobody bother to read some of the things our friends from across the sea told us?   I'm sure around here that's a rhetorical question, of course none of you did.      Point being and in short, I expect to pay more for nothing.  

    edit:  I should be use to the bold part as a life long Brownies fan.