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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #26

    Random thoughts on recent comments:

    • Even with SF likely out of the picture, I can't see Cousins being interested in us.
    • The beauty of the Smith trade theory is that he has no choice.
    • While I liked AJ coming out of BAMA and still beleive he has a chance to be a good, NFL QB.... if Dorsey wants to give Hue every opportunity to fail, then he brings in "Hue's guy", AJ. Kid may turn out to be good, but Hue's future would hinge on whether or not that is the case.
    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    We don’t need to start a rookie day one. That’s dumb.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #27

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    We don’t need to start a rookie day one. That’s dumb.

    Thats being awful cordial about that sentiment u can do better than that. Starting a rookie day one next year......yeah we havent been down that road before huh?

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    @texasag1969 said:

    Which makes me think Jimmah has given him the money approval to go get a proven QB in FA.

    That's EXACTLY what I was thinking too. I think we'll try to make a giant push for Kirk Cousins, if he ever gets free from Washington, or we'll try for Alex Smith. Whatever the plan is, it most certainly revolves around bringing in a veteran. I'd bet on it. 

    T Tacosman wrote on
    #28

    @jiggins7919 said:

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Exactly. And I see nothing wrong with sitting a guy 2 or even 3 years if the veteran is performing well. After all, the entire point is to get competent play out of the position, not to play the first pick. 

    Its like you guys understand zero about how the nfl works these days.

    Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES does #1 overall qb pick ever sit '2 or even 3 years'.  Look at the most recent #1 overall qb picks:

    Russell- started at the end of his rookier year(but this only took so long because he missed all of camp)

    Stafford-opening day starter

    Bradford-  opening day starter

    Newton- opening day starter

    Luck- opening day starter

    Winston- opening day starter

    Goff- started middle of the season(and the rams got tons of flack for waiting that long)

    So for most, opening day starter.  Of the two who werent, both started by the end of their first year.

    There is NO WAY, based on common sense or recent nfl history, that rosen or darnold sit around on the bench for '2 or 3 years'.  They will likely start opening day, and if thats not the case they will be in their starting at some point during the regular season.

  • T Tacosman

    @jiggins7919 said:

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Exactly. And I see nothing wrong with sitting a guy 2 or even 3 years if the veteran is performing well. After all, the entire point is to get competent play out of the position, not to play the first pick. 

    Its like you guys understand zero about how the nfl works these days.

    Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES does #1 overall qb pick ever sit '2 or even 3 years'.  Look at the most recent #1 overall qb picks:

    Russell- started at the end of his rookier year(but this only took so long because he missed all of camp)

    Stafford-opening day starter

    Bradford-  opening day starter

    Newton- opening day starter

    Luck- opening day starter

    Winston- opening day starter

    Goff- started middle of the season(and the rams got tons of flack for waiting that long)

    So for most, opening day starter.  Of the two who werent, both started by the end of their first year.

    There is NO WAY, based on common sense or recent nfl history, that rosen or darnold sit around on the bench for '2 or 3 years'.  They will likely start opening day, and if thats not the case they will be in their starting at some point during the regular season.

    NeroN Nero wrote on
    #29

    @tacosman said:

    Russell- started at the end of his rookier year(but this only took so long because he missed all of camp)

    If you are talking about Russell Wilson, he was the #75 overall. a mid 3rd round. 

  • NeroN Nero

    @tacosman said:

    Russell- started at the end of his rookier year(but this only took so long because he missed all of camp)

    If you are talking about Russell Wilson, he was the #75 overall. a mid 3rd round. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #30

    @nero said:

    If you are talking about Russell Wilson, he was the #75 overall. a mid 3rd round. 

    Pretty sure he's referring to Jamarcus Russell.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nero said:

    If you are talking about Russell Wilson, he was the #75 overall. a mid 3rd round. 

    Pretty sure he's referring to Jamarcus Russell.

    NeroN Nero wrote on
    #31

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty sure he's referring to Jamarcus Russell.

    my bad 

  • M MDDawg wrote on
    #32

    Alex Smith is a great example of being patient with a quarterback. He was terrible in his first few years then Harbaugh really coached him up and now he's flourishing with Andy Reid. Kizer shows flashes but this organization doesn't have the time to develop him.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Random thoughts on recent comments:

    • Even with SF likely out of the picture, I can't see Cousins being interested in us.
    • The beauty of the Smith trade theory is that he has no choice.
    • While I liked AJ coming out of BAMA and still beleive he has a chance to be a good, NFL QB.... if Dorsey wants to give Hue every opportunity to fail, then he brings in "Hue's guy", AJ. Kid may turn out to be good, but Hue's future would hinge on whether or not that is the case.
    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #33

    @tour2ma said:

    Random thoughts on recent comments:

    • Even with SF likely out of the picture, I can't see Cousins being interested in us.
    • The beauty of the Smith trade theory is that he has no choice.
    • While I liked AJ coming out of BAMA and still beleive he has a chance to be a good, NFL QB.... if Dorsey wants to give Hue every opportunity to fail, then he brings in "Hue's guy", AJ. Kid may turn out to be good, but Hue's future would hinge on whether or not that is the case.

    Shmuck Hue. Bring in a player who has proven he can win, not one who "may" be able to win. Hue has been an ineffective gameday coach and does not deserve to choose. If he can't win with a proven winner, then he deserves to go out the door.

  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #34

    Only way I take Alex Smith off KC's hands is if they send us another 2nd-round pick for taking his giant salary off their roster.  They're the ones who are cap-tied thanks to Dorsey, not Cleveland.

    The irony, it is sweet.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    Only way I take Alex Smith off KC's hands is if they send us another 2nd-round pick for taking his giant salary off their roster.  They're the ones who are cap-tied thanks to Dorsey, not Cleveland.

    The irony, it is sweet.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #35

    @unsympathetic said:

    Only way I take Alex Smith off KC's hands is if they send us another 2nd-round pick for taking his giant salary off their roster.  They're the ones who are cap-tied thanks to Dorsey, not Cleveland.

    The irony, it is sweet.

    While the irony is not wasted on me, in the short term we can easily afford the final year of Alex's contract plus a second year with him tagged.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #36

    What is all this trade talk about Alex Smith?   Isn't he a FA at the end of the year?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    What is all this trade talk about Alex Smith?   Isn't he a FA at the end of the year?

    NeroN Nero wrote on
    #37

    @the-gipper said:

    What is all this trade talk about Alex Smith?   Isn't he a FA at the end of the year?

    /topic/48600

    I think Tour already told you about Smith not being a FA...

  • NeroN Nero

    @the-gipper said:

    What is all this trade talk about Alex Smith?   Isn't he a FA at the end of the year?

    /topic/48600

    I think Tour already told you about Smith not being a FA...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #38

    @nero said:

    /topic/48600

    I think Tour already told you about Smith not being a FA...

    Well...you gotta understand, Tour has as many piles of detritus as Waste Management Inc. at times....so I only can pay attention to so much of it.

    Nevertheless....I see that Smith is obligated to KC in 2018......and will be UFA in 2019....  so perhaps I was confusing his belief that he would not be back next year with his actual contract status:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/alex-smith-doesnt-sound-like-he-expects-to-be-playing-for-the-chiefs-much-longer/

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #39

    Agree... your reading comprehension is abysmal.

    Prime example: "not being a FA" = "obligated to current team"

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Agree... your reading comprehension is abysmal.

    Prime example: "not being a FA" = "obligated to current team"

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #40

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree... your reading comprehension is abysmal.

    Prime example: "not being a FA" = "obligated to current team"

    No....I comprehend what I read.  It is just so often so much of your stuff is steeped in arrogance and ignorance that it is not worth reading.  I don't comprehend what I don't read.  See...I can put you on "ignore" without having to do anything with a board button.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #41

    Yeah, Tour's arrogant....

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