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  • I am of the opinion that all 3 are gone. Dorsey is tasked with finding a franchise QB. Berea is not a good place to start his search. He'll sign a vet then draft 2 or three (hope) QBs. Kessler, Kizer and Hogan..... Goners

  • It would be an absolutely idiotic move to cut Kizer

  • What do you think happened to Hogan?

    I have a feeling that he told Hue how to fix his "system", Hue took it personally and it got himself benched.

    @poeticg said:

    What do you think happened to Hogan?

    Still got the Texans game taped on the gizmo machine? re-watch it..remember hue might have got pressure from upstairs to bench Kizer. I still scratch my head, why Hogan was only given passing play calls outside the hash marks? Long sideline out patterns that Hogan could only flutter with his arm talent. 3 were picked with no WR fight for ball & some only catchable out of bounds. Kizer will get the start near his South Bend school in Chicago. But on a very short leash due to Hogan/Dorsey factor..      

  • It would be an absolutely idiotic move to cut Kizer

    @mld-woody said:

    It would be an absolutely idiotic move to cut Kizer

    And how has that stopped us in the past? Kizer is brain damaged anyway. Migraines and cte don't go well together.

  • Hogan all the way.  Draft some O'line and trade down.  That's the ticket.

  • @poeticg said:

    What do you think happened to Hogan?

    Still got the Texans game taped on the gizmo machine? re-watch it..remember hue might have got pressure from upstairs to bench Kizer. I still scratch my head, why Hogan was only given passing play calls outside the hash marks? Long sideline out patterns that Hogan could only flutter with his arm talent. 3 were picked with no WR fight for ball & some only catchable out of bounds. Kizer will get the start near his South Bend school in Chicago. But on a very short leash due to Hogan/Dorsey factor..      

    @gumby73 said:

    ... Hogan/Dorsey factor..      

    Which is???

  • Kizer will stay. I predict we draft a QB, sign a veteran QB (Smith or McCarron) and Kizer immediately becomes third string.

  • What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    WSS

  • Kizer will stay. I predict we draft a QB, sign a veteran QB (Smith or McCarron) and Kizer immediately becomes third string.

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Kizer will stay. I predict we draft a QB, sign a veteran QB (Smith or McCarron) and Kizer immediately becomes third string.

    Oh I think they will probably do a song and dance pretending that the guy drafted at number one is the third string and there to learn. 😉

    WSS

  • What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    WSS

    Better. Couldn't have been any worse. No way. 

  • I cannot watch Kizer anymore. The dude threw the ball at Duke's feet the play before the interception and just walked off the field. He's Shmucking done. Why the hell is Hue continuing to hold Hogan back? The kid was showing Kizer up left and right in the beginning of the season. He was better then than Kizer is now! AFTER 13 NFL STARTS!!! 

    We cannot win with Kizer. If we want to finish this season with a win, you guys need to get behind Hogan and let's play this kid. 

    You can say that Hogan sucks but no matter what you say, I cannot agree with you that he's worse than Kizer. 

    @poeticg said:

    I cannot watch Kizer anymore. The dude threw the ball at Duke's feet the play before the interception and just walked off the field. He's Shmucking done. Why the hell is Hue continuing to hold Hogan back? The kid was showing Kizer up left and right in the beginning of the season. He was better then than Kizer is now! AFTER 13 NFL STARTS!!! 

    We cannot win with Kizer. If we want to finish this season with a win, you guys need to get behind Hogan and let's play this kid. 

    You can say that Hogan sucks but no matter what you say, I cannot agree with you that he's worse than Kizer. 

    I want you to teeter on the edge of a well. Drop a big healthy dump into that well. Fall backwards into said well. 

    Your gimmick is tired.

  • What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    100% worse off...

    How?

    1. We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
    2. We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.
  • @westside-steve said:

    What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    100% worse off...

    How?

    1. We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
    2. We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.

    @tour2ma said:

    100% worse off...

    How?

    1. We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
    2. We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.

    Pretty much...   Now we know.  Kizer isn't the answer other than as a future backup QB.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    What do you think boys, would we be better or worse at this point had Kevin Hogan started the season for the long run? Hard to imagine being any worse...

    100% worse off...

    How?

    1. We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
    2. We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.

    @tour2ma said:

    100% worse off...

    How?

    1. We would not now know we need to take a QB high in the upcoming draft.
    2. We would have been starting a QB who could not win the starting job.

    So number one you are saying that if Hogan started he might well have won more games and the front office and coaching staff might possibly be confused as to whether he's the quarterback of the future?

    As for number two I don't think winning the job had anything to do with it. I don't think we had a better chance to win with Kizer then we did with either of the quarterbacks we shitcanned. He got the start because of his draft position. 

    What we did find out is that he wasn't progressing like they thought that he would being thrown into the fire. We don't know that about Hogan. Or Kessler. And know if I had to bet something of great value I wouldn't put the money on the fact that Hogan was going to the Pro Bowl next season. But like I say we will never know.

    WSS

  • Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.

    Do we really need to see more of Deshone?

  • Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.

    Do we really need to see more of Deshone?

    @stillmotion said:

    Might as well start Hogan. PoG is right. Hogan this game and Kessler vs the Steelers. See which one of them can stay on the roster next year.

    Do we really need to see more of Deshone?

    Kessler won't last 1 series against the squeelers defense.

  • Well..the new GM just said it's "imperative that Kizer start the last 2 games".

    Back under the bridge for PoG.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21819024/new-cleveland-browns-gm-john-dorsey-expects-hue-jackson-coach-2018

  • So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse. 

  • So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse. 

    @poeticg said:

    So, it's imperative that we lose the last two games to solidify his already overflowing draft stocking? Re-finger-u-louse. 

    Haven't we already locked up the first pic?

    WSS