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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    Ohio Gov. John Kasich signs down syndrome abortion ban

    https://search.app.goo.gl/GXcN

    As you know I'm not a pro-lifer but even if I was I would think it's fair to want to abort a child with Down Syndrome. I can't imagine wanting to spend the rest of my life caring for one but I suppose there are people who would want to.

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      We don't get to pick life out and decide what they will have.  What's next?  I don't want a girl, abort it.  Brown eye?  Abort it.  Etc.  

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        Good ole slippery slope 

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          A woman should be able to get what she wants when she wants. U dont get to tell people you MUST carry this child forward thats going to cost u a small fortune befire its a teenager in health care costs.....but then on the other hand say welfare is for bums that dont want to work. There are people on welfare who wouldnt be able to care for these special needs children without assistance. The same assistance some people want to do away with. 

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            yet there are plenty of poor women, especially in the black community, that have babies to qualify for permanent

            support. crack babies - they don't care, and with no father in the life of the children...

            Heart condition? only three fingers instead of four? There are tough questions as to where you draw the line,

            if there is a line at all.

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            • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

              We don't get to pick life out and decide what they will have.  What's next?  I don't want a girl, abort it.  Brown eye?  Abort it.  Etc.  

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              We don't get to pick life out and decide what they will have.  What's next?  I don't want a girl, abort it.  Brown eye?  Abort it.  Etc.  

              It's already legal for hair or eye color. Also legal if you just don't want to be bothered with a kid in the first place.

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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                Might be legal, but it's wrong.

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  We don't get to pick life out and decide what they will have.  What's next?  I don't want a girl, abort it.  Brown eye?  Abort it.  Etc.  

                  It's already legal for hair or eye color. Also legal if you just don't want to be bothered with a kid in the first place.

                  WSS

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @westside-steve said:

                  It's already legal for hair or eye color. Also legal if you just don't want to be bothered with a kid in the first place.

                  WSS

                  Any examples of parents using genetic testing to find out the eye color of their baby and then aborting it?

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    It's already legal for hair or eye color. Also legal if you just don't want to be bothered with a kid in the first place.

                    WSS

                    Any examples of parents using genetic testing to find out the eye color of their baby and then aborting it?

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                    @mld-woody said:

                    Any examples of parents using genetic testing to find out the eye color of their baby and then aborting it?

                    I don't know. Could be. There could be people a boarding full-term children at eating them but that's at least against the law right?

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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Any examples of parents using genetic testing to find out the eye color of their baby and then aborting it?

                      I don't know. Could be. There could be people a boarding full-term children at eating them but that's at least against the law right?

                      WSS

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      I don't know. Could be. There could be people a boarding full-term children at eating them but that's at least against the law right?

                      WSS

                      Well if you're admitting you're just talking out of your butt then ok. 

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                        @westside-steve said:

                        I don't know. Could be. There could be people a boarding full-term children at eating them but that's at least against the law right?

                        WSS

                        Well if you're admitting you're just talking out of your butt then ok. 

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        Well if you're admitting you're just talking out of your butt then ok. 

                        No just pointing out the fact that it's not illegal to abort a child because of hair color. It is illegal to aborted child because of something that would actually Shmuck up your family for decades.

                        I have no beef if somebody chooses to spend the next 40 to 50 years caring for a Down syndrome child. I just wouldn't.

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                          https://books.google.com/books?id=Uq2dGW-BH5QC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=can+I+abort+a+child+because+I+don't+like+its+hair+color&source=bl&ots=QBrPlnAoGd&sig=LUOb5DQVTozeuTthxoAKH_XIT7Q&hl=en&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiMy7j6w6PYAhVEwiYKHS0qDEkQ6AEICjAA#v=onepage&q=can I abort a child because I don't like its hair color&f=false

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            I'm more zeroing in on the hair and eyes color. Hell, I thought that changed months after a baby is born. 

                            I have no problem aborting a fetus, within a reasonable time frame, if the parents know it will have a high risk of a bad disease or disability

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              I'm more zeroing in on the hair and eyes color. Hell, I thought that changed months after a baby is born. 

                              I have no problem aborting a fetus, within a reasonable time frame, if the parents know it will have a high risk of a bad disease or disability

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              I'm more zeroing in on the hair and eyes color. Hell, I thought that changed months after a baby is born. 

                              I have no problem aborting a fetus, within a reasonable time frame, if the parents know it will have a high risk of a bad disease or disability

                              Which would seem like a hell of a lot more serious reason than hair color but nobody thought to make that illegal.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Well... Is that even something you can know pre birth? Like I said, it changes months after birth a lot of times.

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  Well... Is that even something you can know pre birth? Like I said, it changes months after birth a lot of times.

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                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Well... Is that even something you can know pre birth? Like I said, it changes months after birth a lot of times.

                                  I think the eyes change color not sure about the hair.

                                  Could be.

                                   how about sex or skin color then?

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                                  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                                    We don't get to pick life out and decide what they will have.  What's next?  I don't want a girl, abort it.  Brown eye?  Abort it.  Etc.  

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    I am far from a 'Pro-Abortion' person.

                                    However, I do believe that this struggle/argument will end the day after the PLO and Israel hold hands and sing, "Kum Ba Ya"

                                    God/Jesus - alone - will be the final word. 

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                                      As being a grandfather of two beautiful twins I can tell you a child with a syndrome or disease falls in the responsibility of the parents.

                                      Its the luck of the draw...you play you pay. 

                                      I wouldn't disown these kids for anything and to abort? It doesn't make any sense. 

                                      Jerkoff or pull it out goddamn it.

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        Yeah this law makes little sense to me. You can abort kids that would go on to be healthy as far as the doc is aware. But you can't abort a kid that would likely be a giant burden to their family and likely require life long care even after the parents pass away. 

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          I think this will just lead to docs telling the parents but not putting the fact that the baby has Downs on the books.

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