Logic must win out over Browns keeping Hue Jackson
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Grudens interested in goingback to tampa. So scratch thst. What other high value coach can we watch padde away from any clev talk?
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Grudens interested in goingback to tampa. So scratch thst. What other high value coach can we watch padde away from any clev talk?
Grudens interested in goingback to tampa. So scratch thst. What other high value coach can we watch padde away from any clev talk?
Any rational human being would look at Cleveland as the last place in hell you'd want to participate in the NFL. The only chance is to get a "wildcard" or "...whisperer" who is looking for an opportunity but we see how that has gone. I wasn't the biggest Kyle Shanahan fan but his departure says all you need to know bout coaching in Believeland.
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Next year will be different coach same result. How some of u dont get that is beyond me
Next year will be different coach same result. How some of u dont get that is beyond me
It's impossible for a next coach to be any worse. 1-31 is the worst 2 years in NFL history. No one can be that bad. He's a bad HC and deserves to lose his job. Sorry but Williams can go with him and yell and scream and be the over rated blowhard that he is with another team. Hue needs to go. He's never won more games than he's lost as a head coach and now he's about to be 1-31 and 17 losses in a row. That much losing and you have to lose your job as a head coach in the NFL.
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U said this before every new hire. And 1-2 years later its the same sht..."it cant get any worse".
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Our only option will be taking some up and coming coordinator
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Our only option will be taking some up and coming coordinator
Which is the only option we should be considering. Not someone who is just here cashing checks. Young, up and coming coordinator who is hungry to turn this shit show around. Hue is not the answer. He's a bad HC and a loser as a HC.
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Our only option will be taking some up and coming coordinator
Which is the only option we should be considering. Not someone who is just here cashing checks. Young, up and coming coordinator who is hungry to turn this shit show around. Hue is not the answer. He's a bad HC and a loser as a HC.
Which is the only option we should be considering. Not someone who is just here cashing checks. Young, up and coming coordinator who is hungry to turn this Sheet show around. Hue is not the answer. He's a bad HC and a loser as a HC.
It doesnt exist. Keep chasing bigfoot
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I still say we keep Williams...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
It doesnt exist. Keep chasing bigfoot
It doesn't? How did the Rams manage to find him? So lets keep the guy who has 9 wins and 38 losses as a HC because there isn't anyone in the world who is better than him. There isn't one coordinator in the NFL who could do a better job. That makes sense.
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I still say we keep Williams...
As long as the new coach says you don't need to blitz every time it's 3rd down, that's just fine. I don't care, but the HC needs to go. He's a loser.
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I also hope the HC hires an OC
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Hue is staying next year but is required to get an offensive coordinator.
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Hue is staying next year but is required to get an offensive coordinator.
That’s what they say today. We’ve witnessed coaches getting the vote of confidence and being fired a few weeks later.
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U said this before every new hire. And 1-2 years later its the same sht..."it cant get any worse".
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U said this before every new hire. And 1-2 years later its the same sht..."it cant get any worse".
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The only way it could get worse is 0-32.
Hue is staying next year but is required to get an offensive coordinator.
As someone said, Haslam's promise to keep Hue isn't worth the paper it's not printed on.
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Hue's been given one of the worst rosters in the NFL. Hue has returned the favor by being one of the most inept coaches in the NFL. They've all been effed by the worst ownership in the NFL...
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Let me get this straight: Hue Jackson is supposed to be immune to review right now, despite the worst two-year run in NFL history. He's just going to maybe hire a new offensive coordinator and delegate a little more on a side of the ball where the Browns have been nothing short of inept on a weekly basis but, otherwise, nothing to see here.
And when the Browns get pummeled by the Steelers – who will have a potential first-round bye on the line in Week 17 – and end up at 0-16, well, that's no big deal, either. Nothing to see here. While upwards of a third of the league pursues new coaches, the Browns have their man for 2018, even if the new general manager they just hired would prefer things be different and even with all of the myriad other issues popping up (like the potential top pick in the draft, UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen, not wanting to play in Cleveland). And even with an owner in place who has been known to say one thing and do another.
Okay. Sure. Nothing to see here. I'll believe it when I see those season-ticket renewal notices going out and Jackson, at 0-16 and 1-31, still coaching the team. Then, you'll have me convinced. Until then, I'll continue to entertain the thought that logic, reason, and common sense still have a place in the Browns' organization. As bad as it – and it's nothing short of awful with Cleveland's lack of discipline, lack of quarterback development and lack of cogent offensive identity again undermining the team in a lopsided loss to the lowly Bears – this is still an attractive enough job (especially with two picks in the first five or six selections in the draft). Even more so with an established football man like John Dorsey at the helm now.
For instance, someone tell me why this wouldn't be viable alternative to continuing on with a coach that has now gone over a year without winning a game. Hear me out for a minute.
Nothing is more imperative to this franchise than finally finding a quarterback. Identifying him and incubating him and cultivating him is literally everything. There are some other pieces in place and another trove of draft picks to utilize. But after fanning on Jared Goff (could've moved up one slot to draft him) and Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott and Deshaun Watson and I could go on and on, they absolutely must get this right.
You want to land Rosen, and do so without drama and tumult and potentially sparring with his agent? Want to put him around a nucleus of coaches and teachers he already knows and trusts? Want to make him feel comfortable? Why not hire his former college coach? Or at least strongly consider him. Jim Mora lost his job in large part due to Rosen being hurt much of this season, but he's known him since he was around 15, built by all accounts a strong relationship with him, and in a year where there will be so much coaching change without many proven, experienced NFL coaches, Mora fits the bill. Wanna bring Rosen's college coordinator, Jedd Fisch (a former NFL coordinator), with him to run an offense he already knows? I'm guessing that could be arranged, too.
Because if anyone thinks Rosen is going to watch the Browns' film this year and look at how Jackson has kept DeShone Kizer on a human yo-yo string and think that someone with his intellect and longview is going to just waltz right into that web, well, you've got another thing coming. Mora may not be the sexiest name, but, well, neither was another "retread" head coach in Doug Marrone a year ago in Jacksonville, either. That's worked out pretty well I'd say.
And, give the import of the draft to the Browns, I'd point to the success veteran coaches like Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh had in recent years in helping the personnel staff identify the top rookie talent in the league for their first few years on the job after having recruited so many of those kids firsthand, getting to know them and their families in a unique manner. If nothing else, it's worth mulling. Because even if guys like Josh McDaniels and Pat Shurmur and Jim Schwartz wouldn't entertain the thought of coaching the Browns if the job did in fact open up – finding an improvement over the current state of affairs shouldn't be difficult.
Two years ago, owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam, along with recently-fired GM Sashi Brown and analytics "maven" Paul DePodesta comprised the group entrusted with conducting that coaching search. This time, I'd let Dorsey do the hiring and consider what might be best for a potential franchise quarterback and conduct as thorough of a search as possible.
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I agree although I'm not happy about this. When he was first hired I was excited because the bungholes at the time were very good. Getting a coach from a rival I was thinking maybe we turn this around. After all he was very familiar with the division as a whole not too even mention the smaller nuances of the pro circuit.
Lets Sheet can this fool and yes Ghoolie you were right all along.
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If they bring any of these coaches back they should be forced to sell the team
FIRE EVERY COACH!!!!!
If they bring any of these coaches back they should be forced to sell the team
FIRE EVERY COACH!!!!!
as far as i am concerned, it gets worse yr after yr for what, 20 yrs now...time to get rid of football in cleveland...i'd like to see them try and get an nhl franchise...maybe we can compete with the penguins and beat them...fuk this Sheet....
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I didn't want Sashi & Co, fired. Don't want Hue fired but understand that the record may dictate it.
Another rebuild with an inexperienced head coach, great. And before the pumpers chime in, "Gruden will want to turn this around", the Browns is the worst coaching spot in the NFL and it is know a fact.
I didn't want Sashi & Co, fired. Don't want Hue fired but understand that the record may dictate it.
Another rebuild with an inexperienced head coach, great. And before the pumpers chime in, "Gruden will want to turn this around", the Browns is the worst coaching spot in the NFL and it is know a fact.
gruden isn't fuking stupid, his wife would clobber him with a steel pan if he even thought about moving to cleveland from tampa...are you Shmucking nuts...have you ever been to tampa....oh wait a minute, maybe he can coach via teleconferencing from tampa....sorry, did not think about that....pfffffft...
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I didn't want Sashi & Co, fired. Don't want Hue fired but understand that the record may dictate it.
Another rebuild with an inexperienced head coach, great. And before the pumpers chime in, "Gruden will want to turn this around", the Browns is the worst coaching spot in the NFL and it is know a fact.
gruden isn't fuking stupid, his wife would clobber him with a steel pan if he even thought about moving to cleveland from tampa...are you Shmucking nuts...have you ever been to tampa....oh wait a minute, maybe he can coach via teleconferencing from tampa....sorry, did not think about that....pfffffft...
gruden isn't fuking stupid, his wife would clobber him with a steel pan if he even thought about moving to cleveland from tampa...are you Shmucking nuts...have you ever been to tampa....oh wait a minute, maybe he can coach via teleconferencing from tampa....sorry, did not think about that....pfffffft...
Summer in Tampa is worse than a winter in ClevelandSummer in Tampa is worse than a winter in Cleveland
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