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  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #73

    Well then don't step into a discussion under the pretense that it's the same discussion then make it about something totally different. 

    I'm not sure why you guys are so high and mighty about playing outside of your region anyway. College football is a regional game. Who cares? Name one of Alabama's OOC games that it would have lost had it been a road game rather than neutral. None. Oooh, Ohio State went to Blacksburg, Virginia in 2015. Yeah man, that game had repercussions for their resume years down the road. Like Alabama wouldn't beat Virginia Tech on the road. I'd rather watch Alabama play ranked matchups at neutral sites than go play P5 scrubs in their stadium. But then again I like good football, instead of bragging about things that don't matter.

  • Well then don't step into a discussion under the pretense that it's the same discussion then make it about something totally different. 

    I'm not sure why you guys are so high and mighty about playing outside of your region anyway. College football is a regional game. Who cares? Name one of Alabama's OOC games that it would have lost had it been a road game rather than neutral. None. Oooh, Ohio State went to Blacksburg, Virginia in 2015. Yeah man, that game had repercussions for their resume years down the road. Like Alabama wouldn't beat Virginia Tech on the road. I'd rather watch Alabama play ranked matchups at neutral sites than go play P5 scrubs in their stadium. But then again I like good football, instead of bragging about things that don't matter.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #74

    @wargograw said:

    Well then don't step into a discussion under the pretense that it's the same discussion then make it about something totally different. 

    I'm not sure why you guys are so high and mighty about playing outside of your region anyway. College football is a regional game. Who cares? Name one of Alabama's OOC games that it would have lost had it been a road game rather than neutral. None. Oooh, Ohio State went to Blacksburg, Virginia in 2015. Yeah man, that game had repercussions for their resume years down the road. Like Alabama wouldn't beat Virginia Tech on the road. I'd rather watch Alabama play ranked matchups at neutral sites than go play P5 scrubs in their stadium. But then again I like good football, instead of bragging about things that don't matter.

    Alabama won't play P5 scrubs....they play FCS scrubs.

    And, as far as liking good football....and bragging about things that don't matter....You are an A&M fan...so you don't get good football or something that matters, do you? 😆

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #75

    They've played #3 Florida State (twice), #20 USC, #20 Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (twice), #8 Michigan, #23 Penn State on the road, #18 Penn State at home, Duke, and Clemson.

    But yeah just switch out Mercer for Vanderbilt. THEN their schedule would be acceptable. Ok....

  • They've played #3 Florida State (twice), #20 USC, #20 Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (twice), #8 Michigan, #23 Penn State on the road, #18 Penn State at home, Duke, and Clemson.

    But yeah just switch out Mercer for Vanderbilt. THEN their schedule would be acceptable. Ok....

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #76

    @wargograw said:

    They've played #3 Florida State (twice), #20 USC, #20 Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (twice), #8 Michigan, #23 Penn State on the road, #18 Penn State at home, Duke, and Clemson.

    But yeah just switch out Mercer for Vanderbilt. THEN their schedule would be acceptable. Ok....

    Points are simple.  Not sure why you can't follow:

    A. P5 teams need to play 9 conference games.  (switch out Mercer for Georgia)

    B. Wins over FCS school will not count toward the 6 wins needed to be bowl eligible.  (that is actually a rule now....the Independence bowl just screwed up).  Also...the playoff committee to take "points" away if playing an FCS school  (literally treat is like a loss)

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #77

    No actually the point was something like "because Alabama never leaves the south, they should be criticized," and the implication is that they avoid tough games. The above list completely disproves that. 

    Look up what happened last time Alabama played Georgia...

  • No actually the point was something like "because Alabama never leaves the south, they should be criticized," and the implication is that they avoid tough games. The above list completely disproves that. 

    Look up what happened last time Alabama played Georgia...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #78

    @wargograw said:

    No actually the point was something like "because Alabama never leaves the south, they should be criticized," and the implication is that they avoid tough games.

    Precisely.

    The above list completely disproves that. 

    But then....only having 8 SEC games....and instead scheduling the likes of Mercer, reproves that.

    Look up what happened last time Alabama played Georgia...

    Why don't you just tell us?  I suppose Bama won big.....when Georgia sucked.   Even playing a sucky Georgia is better than scheduling FCS.  Keep making excuses for then going to Cupcake City.

    By YOUR supposition then...Ohio State was stupid for scheduling Oklahoma this year.  They should have dropped that game and went and played like Saginaw Valley State or somebody.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #79

    I guess if you call a team that went 10-3 one that "sucked," then yes, Georgia sucked. Alabama won 38-10.

    Ohio State isn't stupid for scheduling Oklahoma. Their fans are stupid for thinking an extra conference game suddenly means all 14 Big 10 teams have major schedule bragging rights.

  • I guess if you call a team that went 10-3 one that "sucked," then yes, Georgia sucked. Alabama won 38-10.

    Ohio State isn't stupid for scheduling Oklahoma. Their fans are stupid for thinking an extra conference game suddenly means all 14 Big 10 teams have major schedule bragging rights.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #80

    @wargograw said:

    I guess if you call a team that went 10-3 one that "sucked," then yes, Georgia sucked. Alabama won 38-10.

    Ohio State isn't stupid for scheduling Oklahoma. Their fans are stupid for thinking an extra conference game suddenly means all 14 Big 10 teams have major schedule bragging rights.

    The fact is: the DO have scheduling bragging rights.   They play 9 conference games...and they disallow scheduling FCS schools.  Any FCS teams they play now are remnants from left over scheduling.  (they only played 2...by the newest members Maryland and Rutgers). 

    But, go ahead

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #81

    I'll give you the FCS thing. But the 9-game schedule is irrelevant.

  • I'll give you the FCS thing. But the 9-game schedule is irrelevant.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #82

    @wargograw said:

    I'll give you the FCS thing. But the 9-game schedule is irrelevant.

    Point is that the is what the other conferences are all doing.    But instead of the extra conference games...the SEC has another donut.  If they were taking that extra game and scheduling against a P5 opponent....that would be one thing....but they are not.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #83

    The SEC isn't the only league with an 8-game conference schedule.

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #84

    I’ll just leave this here. . .

    Power 5 Bowl standings after today:

    @B1Gfootball 5-0
    @Big12Conference 4-2
    @ACCFootball 4-3
    @pac12 1-7
    @SEC 0-3

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #85

    B1G making a statement.

    4-0 PAC 12
    1-0 SEC
    2-0 ACC
    Have beaten 4 current top 20 teams including 3 in the top 11.

    Not bad at all.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by wargograw
    #86

    If we just all agree that the Big 12 should be banned from the playoff then Ohio State could have had that spot today. They're a joke. OU is head and shoulders better than anyone else in the Big 12 and they lost. Meanwhile, the SEC has 2 other teams this year on par with its champion (stupid games against UCF notwithstanding). Big 10 had a solid group of teams at the top too. Really solid. The Big 12 sucks.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #87

    Just expand the playoffs to 8.   Include the winners of the 5 P5 conferences, plus 3 wildcards. Then it would be fair to have more than 1 team in from 1 conference...plus you could include an outlier like Central Florida...and see how they could really matchup.

    It is so absurdly simple....and will happen.  Just when?

  • Just expand the playoffs to 8.   Include the winners of the 5 P5 conferences, plus 3 wildcards. Then it would be fair to have more than 1 team in from 1 conference...plus you could include an outlier like Central Florida...and see how they could really matchup.

    It is so absurdly simple....and will happen.  Just when?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #88

    @the-gipper said:

    Just expand the playoffs to 8.   Include the winners of the 5 P5 conferences, plus 3 wildcards. Then it would be fair to have more than 1 team in from 1 conference...plus you could include an outlier like Central Florida...and see how they could really matchup.

    It is so absurdly simple....and will happen.  Just when?

    It would be so easy to do and is being called for by more media outlets, from SB Nation:

    Here’s what an eight-team playoff might look like in 2017, if all the conference title game favorites win this coming weekend:

    • 8 UCF (G5 rep) at 1 Clemson (ACC champ)
    • 5 Ohio State (Big Ten champ) at 4 Alabama (at-large)
    • 6 USC (Pac-12 champ) at 3 Auburn (SEC champ)
    • 7 Wisconsin (at-large) at 2 Oklahoma (Big 12 champ)

    You could make a case for including Penn State or even a two-loss Georgia over Wisconsin, but we’ll go with this.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #89

    Should be 16 to rival Match Madness. 

  • Should be 16 to rival Match Madness. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #90

    @wargograw said:

    Should be 16 to rival Match Madness. 

    Yes instead of 40 bowl games with 20-30 basically not that interesting and half empty make some the early round playoff games like the Sweet 16......and every other brand of football from the pros down to high school.

    A no brainer!

  • @the-gipper said:

    Just expand the playoffs to 8.   Include the winners of the 5 P5 conferences, plus 3 wildcards. Then it would be fair to have more than 1 team in from 1 conference...plus you could include an outlier like Central Florida...and see how they could really matchup.

    It is so absurdly simple....and will happen.  Just when?

    It would be so easy to do and is being called for by more media outlets, from SB Nation:

    Here’s what an eight-team playoff might look like in 2017, if all the conference title game favorites win this coming weekend:

    • 8 UCF (G5 rep) at 1 Clemson (ACC champ)
    • 5 Ohio State (Big Ten champ) at 4 Alabama (at-large)
    • 6 USC (Pac-12 champ) at 3 Auburn (SEC champ)
    • 7 Wisconsin (at-large) at 2 Oklahoma (Big 12 champ)

    You could make a case for including Penn State or even a two-loss Georgia over Wisconsin, but we’ll go with this.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #91

    @mjp28 said:

    It would be so easy to do and is being called for by more media outlets, from SB Nation:

    Here’s what an eight-team playoff might look like in 2017, if all the conference title game favorites win this coming weekend:

    • 8 UCF (G5 rep) at 1 Clemson (ACC champ)
    • 5 Ohio State (Big Ten champ) at 4 Alabama (at-large)
    • 6 USC (Pac-12 champ) at 3 Auburn (SEC champ)
    • 7 Wisconsin (at-large) at 2 Oklahoma (Big 12 champ)

    You could make a case for including Penn State or even a two-loss Georgia over Wisconsin, but we’ll go with this.

    Considering that Georgia was SEC champ...I think you may revise this.

    And NO...no home games.   Continue to use the neutral site bowl games for these first rounds.  They are useless anyway...so incorporate them into this.

  • @mjp28 said:

    It would be so easy to do and is being called for by more media outlets, from SB Nation:

    Here’s what an eight-team playoff might look like in 2017, if all the conference title game favorites win this coming weekend:

    • 8 UCF (G5 rep) at 1 Clemson (ACC champ)
    • 5 Ohio State (Big Ten champ) at 4 Alabama (at-large)
    • 6 USC (Pac-12 champ) at 3 Auburn (SEC champ)
    • 7 Wisconsin (at-large) at 2 Oklahoma (Big 12 champ)

    You could make a case for including Penn State or even a two-loss Georgia over Wisconsin, but we’ll go with this.

    Considering that Georgia was SEC champ...I think you may revise this.

    And NO...no home games.   Continue to use the neutral site bowl games for these first rounds.  They are useless anyway...so incorporate them into this.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #92

    @the-gipper said:

    Considering that Georgia was SEC champ...I think you may revise this.

    And NO...no home games.   Continue to use the neutral site bowl games for these first rounds.  They are useless anyway...so incorporate them into this.

    That was just a convenient example I found from SB. And the "at" designation can be the home team even at neutral sites.....which is preferred. Ironically the national championship game will be in ALABAMA this year vs Georgia.