Obama - NO YOU CAN'T
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There's no "owned".
It doesn't have anything to do with what is happening in the United States.
It has to do with OBama's blatant cold shoulder toward Israel,
and his identifying with Muslims.
Before, some libs beached about us saying he had a Muslim background.
Now, he is overtly bragging about his Muslim background.
I think it's a few libs that are "owned" and they are pouting.
So childish.
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Obama's stance worries IsraelisJason Koutsoukis
April 18, 2009
CAN Israel still call the United States its best international friend? Apparently not, if you believe the tone of the local media.
Watching the drama unfold inside Israel, the increasingly tense dialogue between US President Barack Obama and new Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is taking on all the trappings of a duel.
Almost every day brings news of another sore point between the two countries, a source of yet further inflammation of their once warm relations.
One could be forgiven for thinking that the more immediate threat to Israel's national security lay across the Atlantic rather than from closer to home.
It is bad enough that President Obama uses almost every opportunity he can to set the parameters of a final peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. Now US officials are openly using Israeli anxiety over Iran's fledging nuclear program as a bargaining chip to force Israel's hand on giving up control of the West Bank Palestinian territory.
No less a figure than White House chief-of-staff Rahm Emanuel — whose father fought with the militant Zionist group the Irgun, and whose appointment had provided such reassurance to Israeli officials — was quoted this week laying down the law to Israel.
If Israel wants US help to defuse the Iranian threat, Mr Emanuel was reported to have told Jewish leaders in Washington, then get ready to start evacuating settlements in the West Bank.
Talkback radio blazed with fury across the country the same day, as Israelis protested that no US official had the right to tell them where to live.
Then on Thursday came the news that Mr Netanyahu's planned first meeting with President Obama in Washington next month had been called off.
Mr Netanyahu had hoped to capitalise on his attendance at the annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference in Washington to visit the White House.
But Administration officials informed Mr Netanyahu's office that the President would not be "in town".
Washington sources added that the Obama Administration would not be continuing the tradition that had developed during the Bush years of hosting Israeli prime ministers whenever they showed up in town, sometimes with just a phone call's notice.
It might have been no more than coincidence, but yesterday Israeli defence officials told the liberal daily Haaretz that Israel's $US15 billion ($A21 billion) purchase of 75 US-made F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets was now under review due to "the unexpected high cost and disagreements with the manufacturer".
Contrary to initial expectations, President Obama has wasted no time becoming fully engaged in the Middle East peace process, despite the magnitude of his domestic political agenda. While Mr Netanyahu has refused to endorse a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict agreed to by his predecessor, President Obama has made it abundantly clear that the US will accept nothing less than Israel living side by side with a sovereign Palestinian state.
Mr Obama is also demanding a freeze on Jewish settlement expansion in the West Bank, and has dropped the Bush administration's opposition to Hamas being part of a future Palestinian Authority government.
According to prominent Israeli political commentator Maya Bengal, who writes for the country's second-largest selling newspaper Maariv, the holiday is over.
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Obama's stance worries IsraelisJason Koutsoukis
April 18, 2009
CAN Israel still call the United States its best international friend? Apparently not, if you believe the tone of the local media.
Watching the drama unfold inside Israel, the increasingly tense dialogue between US President Barack Obama and new Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is taking on all the trappings of a duel.
Almost every day brings news of another sore point between the two countries, a source of yet further inflammation of their once warm relations.
One could be forgiven for thinking that the more immediate threat to Israel's national security lay across the Atlantic rather than from closer to home.
It is bad enough that President Obama uses almost every opportunity he can to set the parameters of a final peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. Now US officials are openly using Israeli anxiety over Iran's fledging nuclear program as a bargaining chip to force Israel's hand on giving up control of the West Bank Palestinian territory.
No less a figure than White House chief-of-staff Rahm Emanuel — whose father fought with the militant Zionist group the Irgun, and whose appointment had provided such reassurance to Israeli officials — was quoted this week laying down the law to Israel.
If Israel wants US help to defuse the Iranian threat, Mr Emanuel was reported to have told Jewish leaders in Washington, then get ready to start evacuating settlements in the West Bank.
Talkback radio blazed with fury across the country the same day, as Israelis protested that no US official had the right to tell them where to live.
Then on Thursday came the news that Mr Netanyahu's planned first meeting with President Obama in Washington next month had been called off.
Mr Netanyahu had hoped to capitalise on his attendance at the annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference in Washington to visit the White House.
But Administration officials informed Mr Netanyahu's office that the President would not be "in town".
Washington sources added that the Obama Administration would not be continuing the tradition that had developed during the Bush years of hosting Israeli prime ministers whenever they showed up in town, sometimes with just a phone call's notice.
It might have been no more than coincidence, but yesterday Israeli defence officials told the liberal daily Haaretz that Israel's $US15 billion ($A21 billion) purchase of 75 US-made F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets was now under review due to "the unexpected high cost and disagreements with the manufacturer".
Contrary to initial expectations, President Obama has wasted no time becoming fully engaged in the Middle East peace process, despite the magnitude of his domestic political agenda. While Mr Netanyahu has refused to endorse a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict agreed to by his predecessor, President Obama has made it abundantly clear that the US will accept nothing less than Israel living side by side with a sovereign Palestinian state.
Mr Obama is also demanding a freeze on Jewish settlement expansion in the West Bank, and has dropped the Bush administration's opposition to Hamas being part of a future Palestinian Authority government.
According to prominent Israeli political commentator Maya Bengal, who writes for the country's second-largest selling newspaper Maariv, the holiday is over.
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What's wrong with the United States requesting Israel freeze all settlement expansion?
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Boundaries
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
And the jerry Springer crowd dosn't need to reply, Kosar & mz the pussy
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Boundaries
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
And the jerry Springer crowd dosn't need to reply, Kosar & mz the pussy
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Ok, enough of the bullshit. Alo, mz the pussy and any other jew in here. Do you sincerely believe that Obama isn't pro-Muslim? He was begging for approval in Cairo today. Anticipating the applause from his Muslim brothers. It was kind of sickening to watch this dude to tell the truth. If you refuse to believe that, then you my friends are in denial.
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Boundaries
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
And the jerry Springer crowd dosn't need to reply, Kosar & mz the pussy
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It’s a shame the highly educated person who browbeats themselves over any one point, will make others wonder how intelligent of a person that they really are, especially when they engage in childish behavior.
These educated ones are self-defeating and might as well admit they are suffering from a deep emotional injury that cripples their thought processes and this is how we get the Jerry Springer participant behavior.
After years of listening to misguided thinking from liberals who are the self proclaimed intelligent ones, it does not automatically make you a rational thinker.
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It’s a shame the highly educated person who browbeats themselves over any one point, will make others wonder how intelligent of a person that they really are, especially when they engage in childish behavior.
These educated ones are self-defeating and might as well admit they are suffering from a deep emotional injury that cripples their thought processes and this is how we get the Jerry Springer participant behavior.
After years of listening to misguided thinking from liberals who are the self proclaimed intelligent ones, it does not automatically make you a rational thinker.
Oh well. I guess shooting down false premises and suggesting folks not jump to ridiculous conclusions based on false claims and sketchy sources makes one a "Jerry Springer" guest 'round these parts.
It’s a shame the highly educated person who browbeats themselves over any one point
I don't think you know what browbeat means based upon the context here.
These educated ones are self-defeating and might as well admit they are suffering from a deep emotional injury that cripples their thought processes
"Deep emotional injury?" Huh??
After years of listening to misguided thinking from liberals who are the self proclaimed intelligent ones, it does not automatically make you a rational thinker.
Double huh?
T. Listen. I see you tried really hard to make yourself look intelligent with this post, but it kinda backfired on you there.
Badly, I might add.
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did I strike a nerve with you, while you continue to throw insults around.
You just showed an example of what I was talking about.
When will you decide to engage in conversation and stop the dennis the menace posting?
Man Up.
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Boundaries
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
And the jerry Springer crowd dosn't need to reply, Kosar & mz the pussy
Myths & Facts Online
So?
Read the unnecessarily back&forth-ish part about demographics. That's a real issue.
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
Huh?
Again: what's wrong with the United States requesting Israel freeze all settlement expansion?
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Myths & Facts Online
So?
Read the unnecessarily back&forth-ish part about demographics. That's a real issue.
There will be war before Israel gives up ground, and that is just a fact.
Huh?
Again: what's wrong with the United States requesting Israel freeze all settlement expansion?
Aloysius said:
Again: what's wrong with the United States requesting Israel freeze all settlement expansion?There is nothing wrong with them asking, but telling them to are 2 different things. The hatred that has been built up in that region is at a teetering point of a major war that we would be dragged into.
And while Obama trying to appease both sides who do you think the US would stand alongside with.
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Is this something you and Bunker sit around worrying about: you because you're afraid the US won't side with Israel, Bunker because he worries that it will?
Your hypothetical is pretty short on details, but I'm pretty confident I know the answer. There's a bipartisan consensus on the issue.
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Is this something you and Bunker sit around worrying about: you because you're afraid the US won't side with Israel, Bunker because he worries that it will?
Your hypothetical is pretty short on details, but I'm pretty confident I know the answer. There's a bipartisan consensus on the issue.
Aloysius said:
Is this something you and Bunker sit around worrying about: you because you're afraid the US won't side with Israel, Bunker because he worries that it will?Your hypothetical is pretty short on details, but I'm pretty confident I know the answer. There's a bipartisan consensus on the issue.
Israel is half a world away. Why should I worry? Unless I feel we are spread to thin allready military speaking.
Plus have we not as a country always sided with Israel?
Al, why are you of all people playing games here? I know you love this topic and hold it close to your heart, but this is ridiculous. Give us some information that will be useful other than affiliating people.
And people wonder why there is such a riff between ideology. All I ask is you give us some reasoning behind your support.
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Well, mz the pussy and the liberals' mod, Al...
the dishonest cherry-picking of part of a quote is very liberalish.
But the ENTIRE quote is:
"It is bad enough that President Obama uses almost every opportunity he can to set the parameters of a final peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. Now US officials are openly using Israeli anxiety over Iran's fledging nuclear program as a bargaining chip to force Israel's hand on giving up control of the West Bank Palestinian territory."
Obama is pro-Muslim. And he gave Israel the cold shoulder, and is dictating ONLY to Israel that they
have to give up the West Bank (as in, stopping settlements in the meantime).
But there isn't any dictating to Iran to shut the freakin up about wiping Israel off the map,
no dictating to Hamas or Hezbollah to stop all terrorist activity.
I see Obama as dangerously anti-Semite, even if only to accrue Arab voters. Well, if Elvis can register and try to vote,
I guess the next election, if Obama allows one, could include voters from other countries.
Kinda like international UN dictums could replace our Constitution.
Oh yeah, Obama pledged to defend the Constitution, not over-ride it. He did say our Constitution was
just negative rights.
He is a radical, pro-Muslim internationalist and socialist. He won't release his real birth certificate, and he reeks
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BTW, Al, the liberal's mod,
you're a mod. Could you try to stay on topic for a change?
You know, like you want other's to do with your threads?
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