Houston - our 2nd first round pick
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That tankathon website is great! Here's how I like to summarize it. Lets assume Pittsburgh beats Houston, then if...
Colts beat Texans - Start at the #4 pick - move up one pick when either of these things happen...
- Colts win in Baltimore
- Giants beat Arizona AND Washington
Texans beat Colts - Start at #9 pick - move up one pick when any of these things happen...
- San Francisco beats Jacksonville OR LA Rams
- Chicago beats Cleveland OR Minnesota
- Tampa Bay beats Carolina OR Arizona
- Cincinnati beats Detroit OR Baltimore
- Denver beats Washington OR Kansas City
So to me it looks like the most likely picks are #4 or like #7 or #8. Colts/Texans obviously a huge game.
If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
I think the first tiebreaker is strength of schedule, so the only way the colts pass us is if they have a better record. They have the same schedule except the Colts played the Broncos and Bills and the Texans played the Patriots and Chiefs so unless Indy also beats Baltimore they will pick ahead of us.
The draft power rankings page is awesome too. We basically have the drafts of the next two most draft capital teams combined haha
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It will probably end up #1 and #5 . Fitz probably gone by then. James will still be there. At 5 it might be a bit of a reach, but we need a FS in a big way. If Bradleyt Chubb is still there, i might take him to bookend with Garrett.
Im terrified taking a FS with the No. 5 overall with Gregg coaching him. Look at Peppers, he doesnt even factor into any plays because Williams has him playing so far back from the LOS
Im terrified taking a FS with the No. 5 overall with Gregg coaching him. Look at Peppers, he doesnt even factor into any plays because Williams has him playing so far back from the LOS
What are you talking about? All of that lack of production is 100% on Peppers. Scheme is irrelevant. We'd do the same with a back up D3 safety.
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I'd be fine with us taking a FS to allow Peppers to play SS. If we take a premier talent like James that gives a lot of versatility with him and Peppers (and Kindred)
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Im terrified taking a FS with the No. 5 overall with Gregg coaching him. Look at Peppers, he doesnt even factor into any plays because Williams has him playing so far back from the LOS
What are you talking about? All of that lack of production is 100% on Peppers. Scheme is irrelevant. We'd do the same with a back up D3 safety.
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I'd be fine with us taking a FS to allow Peppers to play SS. If we take a premier talent like James that gives a lot of versatility with him and Peppers (and Kindred)
What are you talking about? All of that lack of production is 100% on Peppers. Scheme is irrelevant. We'd do the same with a back up D3 safety.
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I'd be fine with us taking a FS to allow Peppers to play SS. If we take a premier talent like James that gives a lot of versatility with him and Peppers (and Kindred)
I hear that Kindred is hurt and that they may have to put Peppers at SS....leaving, I believe Kai Nacua back at FS.
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If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
I think the first tiebreaker is strength of schedule, so the only way the colts pass us is if they have a better record. They have the same schedule except the Colts played the Broncos and Bills and the Texans played the Patriots and Chiefs so unless Indy also beats Baltimore they will pick ahead of us.
The draft power rankings page is awesome too. We basically have the drafts of the next two most draft capital teams combined haha
I think the first tiebreaker is strength of schedule, so the only way the colts pass us is if they have a better record. They have the same schedule except the Colts played the Broncos and Bills and the Texans played the Patriots and Chiefs so unless Indy also beats Baltimore they will pick ahead of us.
The draft power rankings page is awesome too. We basically have the drafts of the next two most draft capital teams combined haha
The first tiebreaker is SoS if the teams aren't in the same division or haven't played each other. If Colts win against the Texans, they end up 3rd in AFC South and Houston 4th, so it would make no sense if the tiebreaker, if they end up with 4 wins each, is the SoS, no matter how many other teams end up with 4 wins.
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I think the first tiebreaker is strength of schedule, so the only way the colts pass us is if they have a better record. They have the same schedule except the Colts played the Broncos and Bills and the Texans played the Patriots and Chiefs so unless Indy also beats Baltimore they will pick ahead of us.
The draft power rankings page is awesome too. We basically have the drafts of the next two most draft capital teams combined haha
The first tiebreaker is SoS if the teams aren't in the same division or haven't played each other. If Colts win against the Texans, they end up 3rd in AFC South and Houston 4th, so it would make no sense if the tiebreaker, if they end up with 4 wins each, is the SoS, no matter how many other teams end up with 4 wins.
The first tiebreaker is SoS if the teams aren't in the same division or haven't played each other. If Colts win against the Texans, they end up 3rd in AFC South and Houston 4th, so it would make no sense if the tiebreaker, if they end up with 4 wins each, is the SoS, no matter how many other teams end up with 4 wins.
I hope you're right about that, that would make the #3 pick very likely AKA the best non-QB spot as the Giants will likely go QB. Also a great trade spot (might not be received well) for a team that wants to trade up for Mayfield or Allen or Barkley or Chubb or whoever. #4 is similar in that way though.
Most of the rules online state that SoS is the first tie-breaker but none mention the division standings so it could be the way you explain it. I think the Head-to-Head rules changed from the way it used to be though and that SoS is the first criteria regardless of division or head-to-head record.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-players/the-nfl-draft/the-rules-of-the-draft/
"In situations where teams finished the previous season with identical records, the determination of draft position is decided by strength of schedule — the aggregate winning percentage of a team’s opponents. The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage will be awarded the higher pick.
If the teams have the same strength of schedule, their records against common opponents in their division or conference are applied, if applicable. If the divisional or conference tiebreakers are not applicable, ties will be broken by a coin flip."
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What are you talking about? All of that lack of production is 100% on Peppers. Scheme is irrelevant. We'd do the same with a back up D3 safety.
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I'd be fine with us taking a FS to allow Peppers to play SS. If we take a premier talent like James that gives a lot of versatility with him and Peppers (and Kindred)
I hear that Kindred is hurt and that they may have to put Peppers at SS....leaving, I believe Kai Nacua back at FS.
I hear that Kindred is hurt and that they may have to put Peppers at SS....leaving, I believe Kai Nacua back at FS.
That would be, interesting
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
That tankathon website is great! Here's how I like to summarize it. Lets assume Pittsburgh beats Houston, then if...
Colts beat Texans - Start at the #4 pick - move up one pick when either of these things happen...
- Colts win in Baltimore
- Giants beat Arizona AND Washington
Texans beat Colts - Start at #9 pick - move up one pick when any of these things happen...
- San Francisco beats Jacksonville OR LA Rams
- Chicago beats Cleveland OR Minnesota
- Tampa Bay beats Carolina OR Arizona
- Cincinnati beats Detroit OR Baltimore
- Denver beats Washington OR Kansas City
So to me it looks like the most likely picks are #4 or like #7 or #8. Colts/Texans obviously a huge game.
If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
Been pointed out- when it comes to the draft, it's SOS. Head to head only matters in playoff consideration.
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If you assume that Houston loses both games, automatically Colts overtake them, so the order would be Cleveland - NY - Houston then Colts... As the Colts would overtake them (win the head to head).
Sweet way to put things up, anyway.
Been pointed out- when it comes to the draft, it's SOS. Head to head only matters in playoff consideration.
Been pointed out- when it comes to the draft, it's SOS. Head to head only matters in playoff consideration.
Then it makes no sense, because the Colts could end up 3rd in the AFCS and the Texans 4th, but the Texans pick would be #4 and Colts' #3, when the Colts ended the season ahead of Houston. I thought that the tiebreaker was SOS but keeping the tiebreaker of head to head between division rivals.
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I hear that Kindred is hurt and that they may have to put Peppers at SS....leaving, I believe Kai Nacua back at FS.
That would be, interesting
That would be, interesting
Kindred HAS been put on IR.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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I think he's saying we'll trade out of one...
Bingo... great way to grab a great player and keep the pantry of future picks full without moving down so far that all the high-impact guys are gone.
Which one gets used and which one gets traded? No idea... all depends on how deeply Dorsey ends up in love with the darling of the QB litter.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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I think he's saying we'll trade out of one...
Bingo... great way to grab a great player and keep the pantry of future picks full without moving down so far that all the high-impact guys are gone.
Which one gets used and which one gets traded? No idea... all depends on how deeply Dorsey ends up in love with the darling of the QB litter.
Bingo... great way to grab a great player and keep the pantry of future picks full without moving down so far that all the high-impact guys are gone.
Which one gets used and which one gets traded? No idea... all depends on how deeply Dorsey ends up in love with the darling of the QB litter.
Giants could move upto #1 to take Rosen. If Dorsey doesn't pick Rosen that's a no-brainer for us. Other mocks have us at Minkah and Rosen. And Josh Allen is rumored to be favorited by us, but i'm not sure of the sources.
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