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  • Dutch Oven Dutch OvenD Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    The Browns should draft two RBs in the upcoming Draft.

    Duke is a free agent after next season. I really like Ronald Jones from USC to replace Duke. Not sure yet on a more durable, bigger back to replace Crowell yet.

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      thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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      Crow has given us 4 "good" years at RB, averaging 4.2 YPC in that time. Playcalling has limited him severely over the last 2 years - when he was in his prime. I wouldn't blame him for leaving Hue's garbage offense. Overall, he has been quite good for us, so no reason to bash the guy...

      #Justsayin'
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        Crow has given us 4 "good" years at RB, averaging 4.2 YPC in that time. Playcalling has limited him severely over the last 2 years - when he was in his prime. I wouldn't blame him for leaving Hue's garbage offense. Overall, he has been quite good for us, so no reason to bash the guy...

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        TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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        @thenew23 said:

        Crow has given us 4 "good" years at RB, averaging 4.2 YPC in that time. Playcalling has limited him severely over the last 2 years - when he was in his prime. I wouldn't blame him for leaving Hue's garbage offense. Overall, he has been quite good for us, so no reason to bash the guy...

        why not? he bashes into the backs of his linemen on every carry, If I were his head coach I wouldn't give him carries either as he would be frustrating  the hell out of me every game. With no other option I have to play him.

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          @thenew23 said:

          Crow has given us 4 "good" years at RB, averaging 4.2 YPC in that time. Playcalling has limited him severely over the last 2 years - when he was in his prime. I wouldn't blame him for leaving Hue's garbage offense. Overall, he has been quite good for us, so no reason to bash the guy...

          why not? he bashes into the backs of his linemen on every carry, If I were his head coach I wouldn't give him carries either as he would be frustrating  the hell out of me every game. With no other option I have to play him.

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          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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          @topdawg31 said:

          why not? he bashes into the backs of his linemen on every carry, If I were his head coach I wouldn't give him carries either as he would be frustrating  the hell out of me every game. With no other option I have to play him.

          And yet he averages more yards per carry than Fournette this season.

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            @topdawg31 said:

            why not? he bashes into the backs of his linemen on every carry, If I were his head coach I wouldn't give him carries either as he would be frustrating  the hell out of me every game. With no other option I have to play him.

            And yet he averages more yards per carry than Fournette this season.

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            TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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            @dutch-oven said:

            And yet he averages more yards per carry than Fournette this season.

            that average would go way down if he had the same # of carries.

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              @dutch-oven said:

              And yet he averages more yards per carry than Fournette this season.

              that average would go way down if he had the same # of carries.

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @topdawg31 said:

              that average would go way down if he had the same # of carries.

              Based on what?

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                I expect Crow will walk anyway.. It's what all players do when they're contract in Cleveland runs out..  I'm gonna laugh my butt off at the sunshine pumpers when Garrett's rookie contract runs out then, takes his talents to the DFW....

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                GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                @nickers said:

                I expect Crow will walk anyway.. It's what all players do when they're contract in Cleveland runs out..  I'm gonna laugh my butt off at the sunshine pumpers when Garrett's rookie contract runs out then, takes his talents to the DFW....

                Bingo, well said Mah NIkkaz. This is what I call the Hoorta syndrome. Any player who wants the best for himself winds up getting attacked by Browns fans, instead of attacking the cheap organization that won't pay for players. $60 million under the cap?

                Crowell is a nice player. Not a feature back, but a good player to have as part of the overall package. He averaged 4.1 yards? Meaning every 3 carries he gets a first down....and he is garbage? Yeah, we have a line of good RBs just dying to come here. He would be an absolute idiot to come back to Cleveland.

                I agree, Garrett will not be here long, BUT...........his stock has dropped. Nobody believes this guy is ever going to be a dominant player.

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                  @topdawg31 said:

                  that average would go way down if he had the same # of carries.

                  Based on what?

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                  TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Based on what?

                  for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Based on what?

                    for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @topdawg31 said:

                    for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

                    The same guy who averaged 4.7 yards per carry in 2016?

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                      @topdawg31 said:

                      for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

                      The same guy who averaged 4.7 yards per carry in 2016?

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                      TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      The same guy who averaged 4.7 yards per carry in 2016?

                      yeah that guy...lol

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                        @nickers said:

                        I expect Crow will walk anyway.. It's what all players do when they're contract in Cleveland runs out..  I'm gonna laugh my butt off at the sunshine pumpers when Garrett's rookie contract runs out then, takes his talents to the DFW....

                        Bingo, well said Mah NIkkaz. This is what I call the Hoorta syndrome. Any player who wants the best for himself winds up getting attacked by Browns fans, instead of attacking the cheap organization that won't pay for players. $60 million under the cap?

                        Crowell is a nice player. Not a feature back, but a good player to have as part of the overall package. He averaged 4.1 yards? Meaning every 3 carries he gets a first down....and he is garbage? Yeah, we have a line of good RBs just dying to come here. He would be an absolute idiot to come back to Cleveland.

                        I agree, Garrett will not be here long, BUT...........his stock has dropped. Nobody believes this guy is ever going to be a dominant player.

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                        T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                        @ghoolie said:

                        Any player who wants the best for himself winds up getting attacked by Browns fans...................... Nobody believes this guy is ever going to be a dominant player.

                        LOL! Now who among Browns fans would continually attack a player? I can't imagine that.🙄

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                          @ghoolie said:

                          Any player who wants the best for himself winds up getting attacked by Browns fans...................... Nobody believes this guy is ever going to be a dominant player.

                          LOL! Now who among Browns fans would continually attack a player? I can't imagine that.🙄

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @texasag1969 said:

                          LOL! Now who among Browns fans would continually attack a player? I can't imagine that.🙄

                          Considering Ghoolie is a Steelers fan, not him.

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                            @gumby73 said:

                            don't know what ya got till it's gone? Crow bring a boatload of physical durability. Since 2014 Crow has started  all of 16 equaling 64 starts..Only 6 fumbles on 737 carries..If Duke can be the physical banger as Crow? I have not seen it in durability nor ball security..   

                            We got nothing... we all know what we got... the answer is nothing. Let him walk he wants a New contract playing like that? Nah I'm good. Sign a 5th rounder rb and he'll be better. 

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                            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                            @alkid3 said:

                            We got nothing... we all know what we got... the answer is nothing. Let him walk he wants a New contract playing like that? Nah I'm good. Sign a 5th rounder rb and he'll be better. 

                            I get it,blind,balance-less with no left turn single is no way to play like a brown🙂 We got Crow as a FA for 4 years paying him in his final contract at 2.8M...He will get paid..Should it be us? yes... but will it happen here? Nope..we outbid no---one

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                              stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                              Crow is the epitome of mediocracy. I think many people expected more from him. He basically falls down a yard first for half of the runs we do every game. And Hue said even he himself could make that big run crow did because of the hole. Yup, Crow is definitely gone.

                              If Dorsey is serious, he won't let crimelord Jimmy stay 60 million under the cap again next year.

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                                Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                                O don't think he's garbage, I just think he's average and Duke could do a better job as a 3 down guy. We could improve the position by drafting a guy in the 3rd and save a Sheet load of money at the same time. 

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                                  Had excessive amounts of Diplomatico during the game yesterday.  🙂  

                                  So you had a great day after all.😆

                                  I got a Total Wine gift card to cash in and am seriously thinking I may get Plantation Barbados XO 20th Anniversary which has some reviews similar to my Diplomatico. I did get another of those for Xmas though so I will have something to taste along side to compare it with. Report coming Tuesday night.😁

                                  I bought a 4 pack of Samual Smith Oatmeal Stout with money left over when I picked up the Diplomatico with my $50 gift card from another retailer closer in. Sharing it with my daughter in law who loves those dark malty beers like I do.

                                  I have one more card besides those and it's a hard choice between my fav Honig Cabernet or a Taylor 20 year Port. Since I have 3 other Honigs already I'm leaning towards the Port unless I spot a really good Rioja (Nero would approve). Life is hard.🙄

                                  Hey Nero you got any favorites? Take a look at what Total Wine carries and give me an opinion. There is a good search engine on the website you can go by wines/ports or by country and narrow it down. I have two locations in N Austin to go bye from.

                                  http://www.totalwine.com/

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  So you had a great day after all.😆

                                  I got a Total Wine gift card to cash in and am seriously thinking I may get Plantation Barbados XO 20th Anniversary which has some reviews similar to my Diplomatico. I did get another of those for Xmas though so I will have something to taste along side to compare it with. Report coming Tuesday night.😁

                                  I bought a 4 pack of Samual Smith Oatmeal Stout with money left over when I picked up the Diplomatico with my $50 gift card from another retailer closer in. Sharing it with my daughter in law who loves those dark malty beers like I do.

                                  I have one more card besides those and it's a hard choice between my fav Honig Cabernet or a Taylor 20 year Port. Since I have 3 other Honigs already I'm leaning towards the Port unless I spot a really good Rioja (Nero would approve). Life is hard.🙄

                                  Hey Nero you got any favorites? Take a look at what Total Wine carries and give me an opinion. There is a good search engine on the website you can go by wines/ports or by country and narrow it down. I have two locations in N Austin to go bye from.

                                  http://www.totalwine.com/

                                  Too bad Great Lakes Brewing isn't available in Texas yet. They make several beers of that type including an oatmeal stout. 

                                  Wines? When it comes to 20 year tawnies, I favor Graham's over Taylor's.  Regarding Spanish wines, checking total wine- I think the Muga selection especial is pretty good. this is another one I really like- it's currently out of stock, but it's one of the few Riojas being made in the "Traditional" style before Robert Parker almost ruined them La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza Reserva Toro, Ribera del Duero, (unfortunately Pesquera and Vega Silica Unico cost a fortune now, but there are less expensive alternatives) and Jumilla are up and coming regions. Outside of Rioja, Jumilla in particular is one of my faves. If you want everyday drinking stuff, look for Domaine Juan Gil. That's his entry level wine. One step (same producer) up is my big fave Clio http://www.totalwine.com/search/product?text=Clio+Jumilla%2C+2014&tab=fullcatalog  the 2014 is sold out. but the 2015 has just been released- keep an eye out for it, if you're into Australian style wines. Me and one of my fellow winos have a complete vertical of it back to first year of production 2002.  🙂  Their top of the line is El Nido, but it's out of my price range on the high side of $100. 

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                                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'll give the 2 Total Wines closest to me and see if either has that Clio. Looks to be an excellent wine from some of the reviews. Another I may take a look at though is Vinsacro Rioja Dioro 2010. Looks intriguing.

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      Based on what?

                                      for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      @topdawg31 said:

                                      for the reason I stated he runs into the back of his linemen instead of having vision to locate a crease to get through, Id swear he closes his eyes as soon as he gets the hand off and just runs straight ahead. We need a RB that has balance and vision. One that doesn't trip over grass blades.

                                      In other words you completely lack any understanding of how "average YPC" works.

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                                        @ghoolie said:

                                        Any player who wants the best for himself winds up getting attacked by Browns fans...................... Nobody believes this guy is ever going to be a dominant player.

                                        LOL! Now who among Browns fans would continually attack a player? I can't imagine that.🙄

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                                        GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by
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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        LOL! Now who among Browns fans would continually attack a player? I can't imagine that.🙄

                                        We are talking about attacking a good player. I attack the schidt. Two Tackle Texas and Corey ColeSlaw 

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                                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                                          there are guys crow's size that make him look like doo doo, that can actually shake and bake, shed tacklers or carry them along for the ride.

                                          haven't had a true de force RB since who byner?

                                          and 4.1 ypc mean Sheet if you can't get one yard for a first down or run the ball into the endzone from 4 yards out.

                                          CHUBB.

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