Quinn at Browns camp ahead of Jamarcus at Raiders camp
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Way to selectively respond.
First, the "staff" you reference is hardly a quality source considering they were terminated for cause.
Second, we can pick apart much of DA's 10 wins as you just picked apart Quinn's. Just imagine if we picked apart DA's losses.
Third, why didn't we trade Quinn if the current "staff" sees it as you do? (i.e., DA is clearly better and worth continued investment, put Quinn on the 2nd team)
Finally, how can you post a 104 passer rating against Denver if he "made horrible reads in all three starts"?
You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
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Way to selectively respond.
First, the "staff" you reference is hardly a quality source considering they were terminated for cause.
Second, we can pick apart much of DA's 10 wins as you just picked apart Quinn's. Just imagine if we picked apart DA's losses.
Third, why didn't we trade Quinn if the current "staff" sees it as you do? (i.e., DA is clearly better and worth continued investment, put Quinn on the 2nd team)
Finally, how can you post a 104 passer rating against Denver if he "made horrible reads in all three starts"?
You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
Way to selectively respond.
First, the "staff" you reference is hardly a quality source considering they were terminated for cause.
Second, we can pick apart much of DA's 10 wins as you just picked apart Quinn's. Just imagine if we picked apart DA's losses.
Third, why didn't we trade Quinn if the current "staff" sees it as you do? (i.e., DA is clearly better and worth continued investment, put Quinn on the 2nd team)
Finally, how can you post a 104 passer rating against Denver if he "made horrible reads in all three starts"?
You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
selectively respond? how so? i'm just attempting to address the things i couldn't get to wednesday night or yesterday.
first: the "staff" is still more qualified to judge talent than you nor i... unless you are saying you could see something they can't, that you're more qualified than them to make those decisions. they've seen things we haven't, and i have faith in that. you, on the other hand, might want to consider dropping your resume off to Kokinis.
second: DA's not on trial in this post. there you go again with your "go-to move" and one-track thinking. try to break free of the impulse to attack DA when you attempt to defend Quinn and stick to defending Quinn--it will have a lot more bearing and weight.
third: i think i need to reiterate the way i see it. Savage sold the farm to get him, he has an exquisite pedigree...but so far he has proven to be the inferior choice to what else they have. he is still young and seems to possess Mangini's core characteristics so i'm assuming they see potential in him. it's impossible for me to answer for them though, and you know that, so forgive me for not answering your rhetorical question.
finally: they were all short passes--not everything was covered deep and the check downs padded his stats.
it's hard to be objective when you're talking about your team's QB who has won games for you because i've seen first-hand what Anderson has accomplished, NFL-wise. to bring DA into the conversation, i'm aware of his short-comings but instead of picking him apart because of what he lacks i tend to focus on his positives. i come off harsh towards Quinn because everyone is harsh towards Anderson...for doing his job and still needing improvement. people are down-right disrespectful to the guy around here. it's a die hard Browns thing i guess. the board has drawn a QB line in the sand and i'll admit i'm guilty of standing on one side or the other, like all of us have. but it's not a real preference and i've never said anything i wouldn't say to the guys face. sure Anderson's thrown picks, sure his short game still needs work, but so far he's been the best the Browns have had. he's also not thrown picks, checked down, and managed the game pretty well. once Quinn shows he can pilot a team in today's NFL i'll be behind him too, but i don't count ghosts as reality. Anderson has shown he can win in today's game, a game where at times you need to have the ability to outscore teams. Quinn still has to show he can do that. so far he's thrown to receivers that were covered quite a few times and hasn't exploited one on one coverage deep when the receiver had separation. until Quinn shows he can make his reads consistently and take his shots he won't be the guy out there. i'll be fine with him if/when he is.
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Way to selectively respond.
First, the "staff" you reference is hardly a quality source considering they were terminated for cause.
Second, we can pick apart much of DA's 10 wins as you just picked apart Quinn's. Just imagine if we picked apart DA's losses.
Third, why didn't we trade Quinn if the current "staff" sees it as you do? (i.e., DA is clearly better and worth continued investment, put Quinn on the 2nd team)
Finally, how can you post a 104 passer rating against Denver if he "made horrible reads in all three starts"?
You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
Greyfag,
So how come this new coaching staff isn't longing to give BQ an oily rubdown like you, Mr. Objectivity?
It's interesting how a homo like yourself will try to proclaim objectivity when you're wet-dreaming about the guy sitting on the bench.
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@jadbf said:
ROFL I think it's CLEAR you have waffled and avoided admiting it was a serious injury.none of us can claim to know how serious it was initially or if it became more serious after he continued to play with it.
i'll maintain if it were seriously serious, he would not have started.
continued play after the Texans game may have had consequences they were unwilling to risk, so they may have opted to cut their losses there rather than risk permanent damage. there's no way to know.
what we do know is how well he made his reads and who he chose to throw to. it wasn't like my criticism is that his passes were inaccurate and just "off-mark", they were at times to the wrong guy.
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You're hardly objective and rarely bring a cogent argument. Like I said, you seem to have more of an irrational bias. I have no clue why, its just how your posts read. Sorry.
Greyfag,
So how come this new coaching staff isn't longing to give BQ an oily rubdown like you, Mr. Objectivity?
It's interesting how a homo like yourself will try to proclaim objectivity when you're wet-dreaming about the guy sitting on the bench.
Greyfag,
So how come this new coaching staff isn't longing to give BQ an oily rubdown like you, Mr. Objectivity?
It's interesting how a homo like yourself will try to proclaim objectivity when you're wet-dreaming about the guy sitting on the bench.
Do you see anyone getting 'special treatment'? I'm starting to hate DA just because of you.
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Greyfag,
So how come this new coaching staff isn't longing to give BQ an oily rubdown like you, Mr. Objectivity?
It's interesting how a homo like yourself will try to proclaim objectivity when you're wet-dreaming about the guy sitting on the bench.
Do you see anyone getting 'special treatment'? I'm starting to hate DA just because of you.
Do you see anyone getting 'special treatment'? I'm starting to hate DA just because of you.
wow that's weak. hell, let me have a shot at this then.
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
feeling influenced yet?
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@jadbf said:
ROFL I think it's CLEAR you have waffled and avoided admiting it was a serious injury.none of us can claim to know how serious it was initially or if it became more serious after he continued to play with it.
i'll maintain if it were seriously serious, he would not have started.
continued play after the Texans game may have had consequences they were unwilling to risk, so they may have opted to cut their losses there rather than risk permanent damage. there's no way to know.
what we do know is how well he made his reads and who he chose to throw to. it wasn't like my criticism is that his passes were inaccurate and just "off-mark", they were at times to the wrong guy.
none of us can claim to know how serious it was initially or if it became more serious after he continued to play with it.
i'll maintain if it were seriously serious, he would not have started.
continued play after the Texans game may have had consequences they were unwilling to risk, so they may have opted to cut their losses there rather than risk permanent damage. there's no way to know.
what we do know is how well he made his reads and who he chose to throw to. it wasn't like my criticism is that his passes were inaccurate and just "off-mark", they were at times to the wrong guy.
Do you have friends sisky?
You seem like you would be extremely hard to be around.
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Do you see anyone getting 'special treatment'? I'm starting to hate DA just because of you.
wow that's weak. hell, let me have a shot at this then.
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
feeling influenced yet?
wow that's weak. hell, let me have a shot at this then.
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
feeling influenced yet?
Yes, i beleive i shall begin drinking alcohol early today.
Did you say something about a taigate?
guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do. -
none of us can claim to know how serious it was initially or if it became more serious after he continued to play with it.
i'll maintain if it were seriously serious, he would not have started.
continued play after the Texans game may have had consequences they were unwilling to risk, so they may have opted to cut their losses there rather than risk permanent damage. there's no way to know.
what we do know is how well he made his reads and who he chose to throw to. it wasn't like my criticism is that his passes were inaccurate and just "off-mark", they were at times to the wrong guy.
Do you have friends sisky?
You seem like you would be extremely hard to be around.
AdaM said:
Do you have friends sisky?You seem like you would be extremely hard to be around.
none you'd probably like to meet. 🥷
i'm happily polarizing--fortunately weeding out the Herbs requires little effort on my part.
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wow that's weak. hell, let me have a shot at this then.
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
"you should bring everybody alcohol to the tailgates"
feeling influenced yet?
Yes, i beleive i shall begin drinking alcohol early today.
Did you say something about a taigate?
Yes, i believe i shall begin drinking alcohol early today.
Did you say something about a tailgate?
ata' boy.
beer for breakfast, water at parties.
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