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Do Brown's have a well defined 3-5 year plan that has been shared with the fans?

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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Actually I have to disagree, Nero...

    We've had several 3-5 year plans...

    ... we just abandon them in year 2.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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      Actually I have to disagree, Nero...

      We've had several 3-5 year plans...

      ... we just abandon them in year 2.

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      @tour2ma said:

      Actually I have to disagree, Nero...

      We've had several 3-5 year plans...

      ... we just abandon them in year 2.

      I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

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        @tour2ma said:

        Actually I have to disagree, Nero...

        We've had several 3-5 year plans...

        ... we just abandon them in year 2.

        I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

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        @wargograw said:

        I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

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          LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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          I think the plan is still in place as it was with sashi.  Think Sashi is gone because he didn't produce.  It was either hue or him to take the fall for the last two years of no progression.  Sashi is repaced with Dorsey.  If nothing good happens in 2018 with hue he will be gone.

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            I think the plan is still in place as it was with sashi.  Think Sashi is gone because he didn't produce.  It was either hue or him to take the fall for the last two years of no progression.  Sashi is repaced with Dorsey.  If nothing good happens in 2018 with hue he will be gone.

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            @lbc-mike said:

            I think the plan is still in place as it was with sashi.  Think Sashi is gone because he didn't produce.  It was either hue or him to take the fall for the last two years of no progression.  Sashi is repaced with Dorsey.  If nothing good happens in 2018 with hue he will be gone.

            Here's a good good question for you all. What indicators do you need to see from now until after the draft do we need to see that verify the long term plan is still in place? One currently still there is that Depo was not sent packing along with SB. Other indicators to look for?

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              jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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              The problem is nothing matters until we get the qb. Sashi screwed that up multiple times, and that's why he's gone. You can plan all you want, but if you don't get the qb right, it's over. 

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                Jimmy Haslam is the owner, so the answer is no.

                Anyway, plans are never told to the public because it's better not to show your cards and future movements to the rest of the teams. 

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                dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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                @nero said:

                Jimmy Haslam is the owner, so the answer is no.

                For someone that doesn't care about the Browns, he did much to improve the stadium.  He just can't find the right coaches, perhaps he just might hit on Dorsey.

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                  the plan is for hue to work his “magic” 

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Actually I have to disagree, Nero...

                    We've had several 3-5 year plans...

                    ... we just abandon them in year 2.

                    I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

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                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                    @wargograw said:

                    I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

                    Depends on which one...

                    @lbc-mike said:

                    I think the plan is still in place as it was with sashi.

                    @texasag1969 said:

                    Here's a good good question for you all. What indicators do you need to see from now until after the draft do we need to see that verify the long term plan is still in place? One currently still there is that Depo was not sent packing along with SB. Other indicators to look for?

                    First will be FA activity. If it's significantly higher, then we know the plan is dead.

                    Otherwise we won't have to look... just listen. If dissension comes rolling out of the FO during the assembly of the Big Board or after the draft, then we'll know the Sashi-era process is dead. And, no surprise, I think the plan and The Process (once more just for you D-Bone) were intertwined.

                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                      @wargograw said:

                      I wonder what would happen if we’d see one through ?

                      Depends on which one...

                      @lbc-mike said:

                      I think the plan is still in place as it was with sashi.

                      @texasag1969 said:

                      Here's a good good question for you all. What indicators do you need to see from now until after the draft do we need to see that verify the long term plan is still in place? One currently still there is that Depo was not sent packing along with SB. Other indicators to look for?

                      First will be FA activity. If it's significantly higher, then we know the plan is dead.

                      Otherwise we won't have to look... just listen. If dissension comes rolling out of the FO during the assembly of the Big Board or after the draft, then we'll know the Sashi-era process is dead. And, no surprise, I think the plan and The Process (once more just for you D-Bone) were intertwined.

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Depends on which one...

                      First will be FA activity. If it's significantly higher, then we know the plan is dead.

                      Otherwise we won't have to look... just listen. If dissension comes rolling out of the FO during the assembly of the Big Board or after the draft, then we'll know the Sashi-era process is dead. And, no surprise, I think the plan and The Process (once more just for you D-Bone) were intertwined.

                      However there was significant off season activity in the acquisitions of Collins, Tretter, Zietler, Ozzie, cough..Britt..choke, and others. So what will constitute "significantly higher, especially when it is obvious it needs to be significantly higher?

                      http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/transactions/_/name/cle/year/2017

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                        @tour2ma said:

                        Depends on which one...

                        First will be FA activity. If it's significantly higher, then we know the plan is dead.

                        Otherwise we won't have to look... just listen. If dissension comes rolling out of the FO during the assembly of the Big Board or after the draft, then we'll know the Sashi-era process is dead. And, no surprise, I think the plan and The Process (once more just for you D-Bone) were intertwined.

                        However there was significant off season activity in the acquisitions of Collins, Tretter, Zietler, Ozzie, cough..Britt..choke, and others. So what will constitute "significantly higher, especially when it is obvious it needs to be significantly higher?

                        http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/transactions/_/name/cle/year/2017

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        However there was significant off season activity in the acquisitions of Collins, Tretter, Zietler, Ozzie, cough..Britt..choke, and others. So what will constitute "significantly higher, especially when it is obvious it needs to be significantly higher?

                        http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/transactions/_/name/cle/year/2017

                        Ozzie??? Osweiler? He was a player to be named in a trade. Collins was a trade acquisition in the prior season.

                        Britt was a replacement vet for an unretained Pryor. Tretter a backfill for a traded Erving. But both were FAs to be sure as was Zeitler.

                        If Dorsey goes on a FA spree, I think we'll be able to see the difference.

                        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                          Newbie here also. Maybe the new gm should do what he did in KC. Browns have lots of cap money. Get Kirk cousins in free agency, use the #1 pick on the best LT to learn behind Joe Thomas get Barkley the Penn st RB in the 4th spot, ..... or use the first to drop down to 12th or 14th spot get another #1 pick for next year, get Barkley at the 4th spot and pick the best WR available with the other pick. A 5 year plan would involve Cousins being there  than you draft another QB down the road.

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