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  • W wargograw

    He’s been mediocre most of his career so far. Are we gonna get this after every game?

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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    He’s been mediocre most of his career so far. Are we gonna get this after every game?

    That is because the Titans have been too in love with Murray to use Henry properly, as the workhorse all game long who will wear you down and crush you in the 4th quarter. I've been very consistent about that since I first started trying to get the Browns to take him in the draft. This time Murray was out so they used him properly. And since he has been there he should at least have been used in short yardage situations late in games. Just did not happen consistently.

    @furious-styles said:

    Thank you !

    I did not say Earl did not have top end speed. I said he did not have Henry's top end speed. There is a difference IMO.

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      @boo-fagley said:

      Hold the champagne.

      The Chiefs D sucks vs the run and they have crusty old LBs. Hali and Johnson are done. Zombo is a jagoff. Houston is always hurt. Marcus Peters hates to tackle so you run straight at him. Revis is a ghost of his former self. 

      Valid points. But you also have a big back with speed making them afraid to take on 250 lbs of speed that likes to run right through people who attempt to make a head on tackle and stiff arm to the ground those that try to take him from angles instead. My point has always been that we ended up not taking a guy who was projected late 1st early second that we really needed. He was BPA and we passed.

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        @boo-fagley said:

        30 other teams missed him too.

        Texas is a football factory no doubt.

        Texas? He came to Alabama from Florida where he broke that national record. BTW on that 35 yd. TD run he hit a max speed of 20.31 mph. For 250 lbs that's not slow like detractors here were trying to tell me back before he was drafted. He is deceptively faster than he appears to be, not unlike those long strides even faster Eric Dickerson used to display.

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          @boo-fagley said:

          30 other teams missed him too.

          Texas is a football factory no doubt.

          Texas? He came to Alabama from Florida where he broke that national record. BTW on that 35 yd. TD run he hit a max speed of 20.31 mph. For 250 lbs that's not slow like detractors here were trying to tell me back before he was drafted. He is deceptively faster than he appears to be, not unlike those long strides even faster Eric Dickerson used to display.

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          @texasag1969 said:

          Texas? He came to Alabama from Florida where he broke that national record. BTW on that 35 yd. TD run he hit a max speed of 20.31 mph. For 250 lbs that's not slow like detractors here were trying to tell me back before he was drafted. He is deceptively faster than he appears to be, not unlike those long strides even faster Eric Dickerson used to display.

          Perhaps what detractors were meaning by "slow" is big guys like Henry take a while to get up to 20.31 mph? That he might have good max speed, but because of his size he takes a bit to get going?

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            @texasag1969 said:

            Texas? He came to Alabama from Florida where he broke that national record. BTW on that 35 yd. TD run he hit a max speed of 20.31 mph. For 250 lbs that's not slow like detractors here were trying to tell me back before he was drafted. He is deceptively faster than he appears to be, not unlike those long strides even faster Eric Dickerson used to display.

            Perhaps what detractors were meaning by "slow" is big guys like Henry take a while to get up to 20.31 mph? That he might have good max speed, but because of his size he takes a bit to get going?

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            @dutch-oven said:

            Perhaps what detractors were meaning by "slow" is big guys like Henry take a while to get up to 20.31 mph? That he might have good max speed, but because of his size he takes a bit to get going?

            You'd have to ask them. I provided the videos back then showing how fast he was accelerating past and then leaving behind DBs. They frequently misjudged that speed because of the long strides and then took improper cutoff angles. Once they missed that rarely was he ever caught from behind.

            EDIT: One of the videos I provided back then before the draft. Fast to accelerate or not?

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              Looked pretty quick to me

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                dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by
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                I can't hate on Derrick, even though he cost me $1830 on Sportsbetting (8 teamer) parlay by running the ball for a TD with only a few seconds left. 

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                  I can't hate on Derrick, even though he cost me $1830 on Sportsbetting (8 teamer) parlay by running the ball for a TD with only a few seconds left. 

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                  @dawg2fan said:

                  I can't hate on Derrick, even though he cost me $1830 on Sportsbetting (8 teamer) parlay by running the ball for a TD with only a few seconds left. 

                  Well if there was a valid reason to hate someone, that would be it. 😆

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    So what is the back story regarding TexAg and Henry?

                    Ask Tour. I pushed like mad to get the Browns to take him and people here kept trying to tell me he was too slow and obviously he is not only fast, but powerful to boot which is what I was saying all along. And we have the visionless Crow instead of a back like Henry. Bunch of f'n idiots in our FO.

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                    @texasag1969 said:

                    Ask Tour. I pushed like mad to get the Browns to take him and people here kept trying to tell me he was too slow and obviously he is not only fast, but powerful to boot which is what I was saying all along. And we have the visionless Crow instead of a back like Henry. Bunch of f'n idiots in our FO.

                    Yes, you did... and it only took you two years to have a game to crow about (pun intended).

                    Enjoy it... even TR had one good game. 😉

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                      @texasag1969 said:

                      Ask Tour. I pushed like mad to get the Browns to take him and people here kept trying to tell me he was too slow and obviously he is not only fast, but powerful to boot which is what I was saying all along. And we have the visionless Crow instead of a back like Henry. Bunch of f'n idiots in our FO.

                      Yes, you did... and it only took you two years to have a game to crow about (pun intended).

                      Enjoy it... even TR had one good game. 😉

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      Yes, you did... and it only took you two years to have a game to crow about (pun intended).

                      Enjoy it... even TR had one good game. 😉

                      Ah ha Sherlock! You knew I started this thread just for you (and me it goes without saying). It took almost a day for the fish to finally rise to the bait. You're slipping.😉

                      BTW it's taken the Titans 2 years to figure out what Saban knew from day 1, he had a dominating force in the running game that could set up the rest of the offense if you play him all game long. Had Murray not gotten hurt they still would not have understood that. Play him all game and he pays off in the 4th Q. Always been that kind of player. He's an offensive punisher of defenses. Hopefully they still haven't learned that and leave him out for a good price in FA. May Murray quickly recover.😛

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                        So Henry just needs to get a lot of touches to be effective? 

                        It’s a shame that he didn’t get to play for a guy dedicated to running the ball like Hue Jackson 

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                          So Henry just needs to get a lot of touches to be effective? 

                          It’s a shame that he didn’t get to play for a guy dedicated to running the ball like Hue Jackson 

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                          @roycerolls said:

                          So Henry just needs to get a lot of touches to be effective?

                          It’s a shame that he didn’t get to play for a guy dedicated to running the ball like Hue Jackson 

                          LOL!😆

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                            cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                            Not bad for the 4th or 5th best RB in Tennessee's division.

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                              @wargograw said:

                              He’s been mediocre most of his career so far. Are we gonna get this after every game?

                              That is because the Titans have been too in love with Murray to use Henry properly, as the workhorse all game long who will wear you down and crush you in the 4th quarter. I've been very consistent about that since I first started trying to get the Browns to take him in the draft. This time Murray was out so they used him properly. And since he has been there he should at least have been used in short yardage situations late in games. Just did not happen consistently.

                              @furious-styles said:

                              Thank you !

                              I did not say Earl did not have top end speed. I said he did not have Henry's top end speed. There is a difference IMO.

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                              @texasag1969 said:

                              That is because the Titans have been too in love with Murray to use Henry properly, as the workhorse all game long who will wear you down and crush you in the 4th quarter. I've been very consistent about that since I first started trying to get the Browns to take him in the draft. This time Murray was out so they used him properly. And since he has been there he should at least have been used in short yardage situations late in games. Just did not happen consistently.

                              This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

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                                @texasag1969 said:

                                That is because the Titans have been too in love with Murray to use Henry properly, as the workhorse all game long who will wear you down and crush you in the 4th quarter. I've been very consistent about that since I first started trying to get the Browns to take him in the draft. This time Murray was out so they used him properly. And since he has been there he should at least have been used in short yardage situations late in games. Just did not happen consistently.

                                This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

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                                cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                @wargograw said:

                                This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

                                Phucking Savage

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                                  @texasag1969 said:

                                  That is because the Titans have been too in love with Murray to use Henry properly, as the workhorse all game long who will wear you down and crush you in the 4th quarter. I've been very consistent about that since I first started trying to get the Browns to take him in the draft. This time Murray was out so they used him properly. And since he has been there he should at least have been used in short yardage situations late in games. Just did not happen consistently.

                                  This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

                                  It got lost here in week 6. I've been saying all long he should be the primary back for the Titans. Start @ 1:44 if you want to see a real run.

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                                    Who really cares about this guy?   Now...if he can run the Patriots Defense into the dirt...that would be OK by me.

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                                      Who really cares about this guy?   Now...if he can run the Patriots Defense into the dirt...that would be OK by me.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Who really cares about this guy?   Now...if he can run the Patriots Defense into the dirt...that would be OK by me.

                                      FA in 2019.

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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        This isn't the first game Henry's started. In fact just a couple weeks ago he had 28 carries for 51 yards. Where was the thread for that?

                                        It got lost here in week 6. I've been saying all long he should be the primary back for the Titans. Start @ 1:44 if you want to see a real run.

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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        It got lost here in week 6. I've been saying all long he should be the primary back for the Titans. Start @ 1:44 if you want to see a real run.

                                        It's the Colts...

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          It got lost here in week 6. I've been saying all long he should be the primary back for the Titans. Start @ 1:44 if you want to see a real run.

                                          It's the Colts...

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                                          @wargograw said:

                                          It's the Colts...

                                          And yet the Browns could not beat them with The Crow. Be honest, would you rather have had Coleman (or Ogbah) these last two years or Derrick Henry. I'd venture to say we'd have more than 1 victory during that time.

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