Josh Allen mechanics are very good.
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I think we need a countdown clock to the draft. It's Jan 5th, and the draft is in late April?
geez.
I think we need a countdown clock to the draft. It's Jan 5th, and the draft is in late April?
Or to the Senior Bowl....
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Wyoming QB Josh Allen is going to accept invite to Reese’s Senior Bowl after graduating as 4th year junior. Elevates magnitude of Sr Bowl week. Expect announcement today.
10:04 AM - 5 Jan 2018I wonder if Hue is now in trouble with Dorsey for turning down the coaching gig..."When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Here is what CBS had ahead of any QB:
2018 TOP NFL DRAFT PROSPECTS RK PLAYER POS POS RK SCHOOL CLASS HT WT 1 Bradley Chubb DE 1 NC State Sr 6-4 275 2 Derwin James SS 1 Florida State Soph 6-3 211 3 Quenton Nelson OG 1 Notre Dame Sr 6-5 329 4 Roquan Smith ILB 1 Georgia Jr 6-1 225 5 Orlando Brown OT 1 Oklahoma Jr 6-8 360 6 Minkah Fitzpatrick FS 1 Alabama Jr 6-1 201 7 Saquon Barkley RB 1 Penn State Jr 5-11 223 8 Maurice Hurst DT 1 Michigan Sr 6-2 282 9 Courtland Sutton WR 1 Southern Methodist Soph 6-4 215 Here is what CBS had ahead of any QB:
2018 TOP NFL DRAFT PROSPECTS RK PLAYER POS POS RK SCHOOL CLASS HT WT 1 Bradley Chubb DE 1 NC State Sr 6-4 275 2 Derwin James SS 1 Florida State Soph 6-3 211 3 Quenton Nelson OG 1 Notre Dame Sr 6-5 329 4 Roquan Smith ILB 1 Georgia Jr 6-1 225 5 Orlando Brown OT 1 Oklahoma Jr 6-8 360 6 Minkah Fitzpatrick FS 1 Alabama Jr 6-1 201 7 Saquon Barkley RB 1 Penn State Jr 5-11 223 8 Maurice Hurst DT 1 Michigan Sr 6-2 282 9 Courtland Sutton WR 1 Southern Methodist Soph 6-4 215 Does CBS stand for Complete Bull $hit? I would bet everything I own that's not even close to the way the draft is going to fall out.
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bs. have a nice day.
That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
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So, here it is: interestingly, they have him still as the #1 QB....but only 10th player prospect overall:
Still CBS...
DraftScout has still not merged it's 2018 and 2019 Draft classes...
... and won't until the declaration deadline passes.
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bs. have a nice day.
That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
well, when you bitch as a mod about being nicer to you, then you take to smarting off like fool, that is just the way it is. You don't get it - rapistberger went to Miami. As I remember, Miami has always had a strong team back when I was in college. He had a lot of talent around him.
Here's a clue for you - lame your butt. Rapistberger started at Miami in 2001. Now, in 2000, Miami U. went 11-1, went to the Sugar Bowl and won it. So much for bragging on your boyfriend raptistberger. Of course rapistberger had great stats, they were great before he ever got to college.
In 1998, Miami was 9-3, and they won the MicronPC Bowl.
In 1999, Miami was 9-4, and the won the Gator Bowl.
gee, hoopla, you wonder how rapistberger had a real good completion rate? seriously?
Here's another clue - in 2004, AFTER RAPISTBERGER LEFT MIAMI, they went 9-3, and won the Peach Bowl.
What corner? I just see things as I see them, unlike you, you want to see things like others see them. that is what is lame. If I"m wrong, which happens here and there...well, there and here, too, I'm wrong. But I don't wait until a consensus hits, and run with that consensus. What fun is that? Go ahead, draft Johnny manziel with 68 and 69.9 completion percentages.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/johnny-manziel-1.html
I argued a ton to not draft JM. I kicked him off my list.
If you want to smart off, you get smarted off in return. I was trying to be nice- so HAVE A NICE DAY.
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bs. have a nice day.
That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
oh, btw, you whine about the stink - you should just not keep stirring up the cowpie. Have a nice day !
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Some reports are that Allen may be high on Dorsey's list. It will take going through all the motions to confirm this.
But....see my Minkah thread.
If Allen were high on the Browns list....I personally believe if he were the guy....that it would be with #4...and not #1.
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I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
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I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
Minkah Fitzpatrick is listed as a FS.....the other guy.....Derwin James is listed as a SS. Of course, both may be Peppers like guys....who go from FS to SS to CB if needed.
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
Smith? Roquon? He is listed as an ILB.....and that is not a bad position for us now as it stands, with Schobert/Kirksey.
As for CBs, the top rated guys that I have seen are Joshua Jackson of Iowa and Denzel Ward from Ohio St. Both listed in the 20s among overall prospects.
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
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I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
A draft that netted Roquan Smith and Minkah Fitzpatrick would be ideal. You know how I feel about Allen but those other two guys are top notch.
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I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
Minkah Fitzpatrick is listed as a FS.....the other guy.....Derwin James is listed as a SS. Of course, both may be Peppers like guys....who go from FS to SS to CB if needed.
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
Smith? Roquon? He is listed as an ILB.....and that is not a bad position for us now as it stands, with Schobert/Kirksey.
As for CBs, the top rated guys that I have seen are Joshua Jackson of Iowa and Denzel Ward from Ohio St. Both listed in the 20s among overall prospects.
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
As far As I am aware, Fitzpatrick was pretty firmly FS and CB. Bama has a kid named Ronnie Harrison who played SS and will likely be a first rounder as well.
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That the best you got? Lame. You are so far in D-Nile, you've paddled all the way up river to the Congo. PAC-12 = Mountain West talent level? 56% completion level is as good as Roethlisberger's and Flacco's 60%+ in lesser conferences? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Seriously Cal, you have painted yourself into a corner looking at character and arm strength as your major criteria. I call that rose colored glassed smoochie falling in love with a prospect.
well, when you bitch as a mod about being nicer to you, then you take to smarting off like fool, that is just the way it is. You don't get it - rapistberger went to Miami. As I remember, Miami has always had a strong team back when I was in college. He had a lot of talent around him.
Here's a clue for you - lame your butt. Rapistberger started at Miami in 2001. Now, in 2000, Miami U. went 11-1, went to the Sugar Bowl and won it. So much for bragging on your boyfriend raptistberger. Of course rapistberger had great stats, they were great before he ever got to college.
In 1998, Miami was 9-3, and they won the MicronPC Bowl.
In 1999, Miami was 9-4, and the won the Gator Bowl.
gee, hoopla, you wonder how rapistberger had a real good completion rate? seriously?
Here's another clue - in 2004, AFTER RAPISTBERGER LEFT MIAMI, they went 9-3, and won the Peach Bowl.
What corner? I just see things as I see them, unlike you, you want to see things like others see them. that is what is lame. If I"m wrong, which happens here and there...well, there and here, too, I'm wrong. But I don't wait until a consensus hits, and run with that consensus. What fun is that? Go ahead, draft Johnny manziel with 68 and 69.9 completion percentages.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/johnny-manziel-1.html
I argued a ton to not draft JM. I kicked him off my list.
If you want to smart off, you get smarted off in return. I was trying to be nice- so HAVE A NICE DAY.
well, when you bitch as a mod about being nicer to you, then you take to smarting off like fool, that is just the way it is. You don't get it - rapistberger went to Miami. As I remember, Miami has always had a strong team back when I was in college. He had a lot of talent around him.
Here's a clue for you - lame your butt. Rapistberger started at Miami in 2001. Now, in 2000, Miami U. went 11-1, went to the Sugar Bowl and won it. So much for bragging on your boyfriend raptistberger. Of course rapistberger had great stats, they were great before he ever got to college.
In 1998, Miami was 9-3, and they won the MicronPC Bowl.
In 1999, Miami was 9-4, and the won the Gator Bowl.
Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
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well, when you bitch as a mod about being nicer to you, then you take to smarting off like fool, that is just the way it is. You don't get it - rapistberger went to Miami. As I remember, Miami has always had a strong team back when I was in college. He had a lot of talent around him.
Here's a clue for you - lame your butt. Rapistberger started at Miami in 2001. Now, in 2000, Miami U. went 11-1, went to the Sugar Bowl and won it. So much for bragging on your boyfriend raptistberger. Of course rapistberger had great stats, they were great before he ever got to college.
In 1998, Miami was 9-3, and they won the MicronPC Bowl.
In 1999, Miami was 9-4, and the won the Gator Bowl.
Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
Did Cal seriously confuse which "Miami" Ben R. went to? I kind of just skip over some of his rants and did not see this mistake...if in fact he did make that mistake. Whatever else Cal is off base on (and we won't go into it)....I didn't think he would have actually been so far off base on a factual matter that is so basic.
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Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
Did Cal seriously confuse which "Miami" Ben R. went to? I kind of just skip over some of his rants and did not see this mistake...if in fact he did make that mistake. Whatever else Cal is off base on (and we won't go into it)....I didn't think he would have actually been so far off base on a factual matter that is so basic.
Did Cal seriously confuse which "Miami" Ben R. went to? I kind of just skip over some of his rants and did not see this mistake...if in fact he did make that mistake. Whatever else Cal is off base on (and we won't go into it)....I didn't think he would have actually been so far off base on a factual matter that is so basic.
Yes he did...or at least certainly looked that way. But then he'll just say he was just kidding afterwards.
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Did Cal seriously confuse which "Miami" Ben R. went to? I kind of just skip over some of his rants and did not see this mistake...if in fact he did make that mistake. Whatever else Cal is off base on (and we won't go into it)....I didn't think he would have actually been so far off base on a factual matter that is so basic.
Yes he did...or at least certainly looked that way. But then he'll just say he was just kidding afterwards.
Yes he did...or at least certainly looked that way. But then he'll just say he was just kidding afterwards.
If BR had gone to Miami Fla.....there would have been a lot of discussion about that school being Quarterback U, with the likes of Bernie, Vinny, and Jim Kelly having gone there.
But note this.....those three guys were all on the Miami roster at the same time in the early 80s....but is it fair to say that that school has produced Fuyuck All in terms of quality NFL QB since?
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I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
I can even see trading out of #1, letting some other team go for rosen/darnold, and picking Minkah at 4. Buffalo? may be the only team with two draft picks in the first round. It's complicated, some scouts say the top cb is the other guy?
who is "only" just a shut down corner ...with three picks in the second round, I don't care if THIS front office drafts a cb and roquan smith, lb, trading out of the first pick, and gets the qb at 4. But Smith's stock is skyrocketing...
This is a football experience rock solid fo now. Too bad the draft is so far away.
(did I mention Allen is my favorite qb? oops, I just made hoopla cry
)
You had better set your DVR now Cal. Just saw your Dreamboat committed to the Senior Bowl. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000905018/article/josh-allen-accepts-invitation-to-2018-senior-bowl (That's in addition to Baker Mayfield & this loaded crew Other QBs that have accepted invites include Oklahoma State's Mason Rudolph, Washington State's Luke Falk, Virginia's Kurt Benkert, Western Kentucky's Mike White, Richmond's Kyle Lauletta and Troy's Brandon Silvers. I can hardly wait)
The 2018 Reese's Senior Bowl will be nationally televised by NFL Network at 1:30pmCT (2:30 EST) Saturday January 27. Practices on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday will be televised live by NFL Network and the Wednesday and Thursday practices will also be covered live by ESPN on ESPNU. The NFL Network will produce hour-long recap shows each evening as well.
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Since the Kelly/Bernie/Vinny group Miami Fla. has produced these QBs: Craig Erickson, Gino Torretta, Scott Covington, Steve Walsh, Ken Dorsey, and Brad Kaaya. Walsh was the best of a below mediocre crop. Not sure how Kaaya did this year...his rookie season. Did he play at all? PFR has nothing on him.
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well, when you bitch as a mod about being nicer to you, then you take to smarting off like fool, that is just the way it is. You don't get it - rapistberger went to Miami. As I remember, Miami has always had a strong team back when I was in college. He had a lot of talent around him.
Here's a clue for you - lame your butt. Rapistberger started at Miami in 2001. Now, in 2000, Miami U. went 11-1, went to the Sugar Bowl and won it. So much for bragging on your boyfriend raptistberger. Of course rapistberger had great stats, they were great before he ever got to college.
In 1998, Miami was 9-3, and they won the MicronPC Bowl.
In 1999, Miami was 9-4, and the won the Gator Bowl.
Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
Long time lurker of the board; die hard Cleveland fan, born and raised.
I usually just sit back and read you guys, enjoying the banter and drama, but in this case I couldn't resist.
The quotes from Calfox spewing the stats about how good Rapistberger's team was around him when he was in school, finally forced me to get involved. He's going on a rant about how good "Miami U" was before Ben arrived, which would be a perfectly reasonable argument... if only he were talking about the CORRECT COLLEGE TEAM. Ben didn't attend school at the University of Miami, which is the team that went 11-1 in 2000 and won the Sugar Bowl. That school is in Florida and goes by the name "Hurricanes"... you may have heard of them. Ben went to a much lesser known school, Miami University, which is located in Ohio, goes by the "Redhawks" and is in the MAC.
They were terrible in 2000 (6-5 against MAC competition), the year before Big Ben. There was little to no talent on that team. He raised them to a 13-1 record (in his third year in college, only his fourth year playing the QB position after only playing one year at QB in high school) before deciding to go pro, and by 2006, the Redhawks returned to trash by going 2-10 (and they've had one year with a winning record since).
I understand you're passionate about Josh Allen and will basically say anything to try to convince people of your point of view, but if you are not even going to be in the right stratosphere with your "stats", people are going to lose the last remaining shred of respect they may have had for you.
Go Browns!!
lurker smercher. I was talking about Miami University. I'm old school - retired, when I was in college, Miami went to the Tangerine Bowl. I admit, I grabbed the wrong link somehow.
but you cherry picked your own stats:
your boyfriend rapistlicksbooger only played til 03.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ben-roethlisberger-1.html
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 2001 Miami (OH) MAC FR QB 12 241 381 63.3 3105 8.1 7.9 25 13 146.5 2002 Miami (OH) MAC SO QB 12 271 428 63.3 3238 7.6 7.4 22 11 138.7 *2003 Miami (OH) MAC JR QB 14 342 495 69.1 4486 9.1 9.6 37 10 165.8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_RedHawks_football
December 22, 1973 Tangerine Bowl Florida W 16–7 December 21, 1974 Tangerine Bowl Georgia W 21–10 December 20, 1975 Tangerine Bowl South Carolina W 20–7 December 13, 1986 California Bowl San Jose State L 7–37 December 18, 2003 GMAC Bowl Louisville W 49–28 December 28, 2004 Independence Bowl Iowa State L 13–17 January 6, 2011 GoDaddy.com Bowl Middle Tennessee W 35–21 December 26, 2016 St. Petersburg Bowl Mississippi State L 16–17
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