Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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Barkley is the closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. He's going to go to INDY to help Luck if we don't take him #1.
I'm starting to see Mayfield as the best passer from the bunch. He's pretty accurate and he brings excitement. I think he'll go pretty early, earlier than most predict. Maybe we should just take him #4.
Barkley/Mayfield could be explosive. Gordon would make it a trifecta. I'm really starting to like this scenario.
Barkley is the closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. He's going to go to INDY to help Luck if we don't take him #1.
I'm starting to see Mayfield as the best passer from the bunch. He's pretty accurate and he brings excitement. I think he'll go pretty early, earlier than most predict. Maybe we should just take him #4.
Barkley/Mayfield could be explosive. Gordon would make it a trifecta. I'm really starting to like this scenario.
To be honest Po, I could live with Barkley\ Mayfield. Here's a very real possibility. Let's assume the Colts are willing to trade down- to say Denver. QBs go #1, #2, #3. Guess who's there @ #4? Your fave Barkley. We've already posted this in another thread. The 4 greatest RBs of all time- Smith, Payton, Sanders, Brown didn't get drafted #1 overall. You want to tell me Saquon is in that class? Hell's Bells- the guy I would have loved the Browns to draft 15 years ago, Ladanian Tomlinson didn't go that high, and the greatest RB of recent vintage Adrian Peterson didn't either. So there. If Dorsey has two communicating neurons, he's going to take the QB FIRST, (or you forget Jimmuh has told John, finding the QBOTF is job #1, #2, AND #3?) and hope Barkley falls to #4.
BTW, Brady has won more Super Bowls (or NFL Championships) than Smith, Payton, Sanders, and Brown combined so you tell me what's more important.
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Barkley is the closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. He's going to go to INDY to help Luck if we don't take him #1.
I'm starting to see Mayfield as the best passer from the bunch. He's pretty accurate and he brings excitement. I think he'll go pretty early, earlier than most predict. Maybe we should just take him #4.
Barkley/Mayfield could be explosive. Gordon would make it a trifecta. I'm really starting to like this scenario.
To be honest Po, I could live with Barkley\ Mayfield. Here's a very real possibility. Let's assume the Colts are willing to trade down- to say Denver. QBs go #1, #2, #3. Guess who's there @ #4? Your fave Barkley. We've already posted this in another thread. The 4 greatest RBs of all time- Smith, Payton, Sanders, Brown didn't get drafted #1 overall. You want to tell me Saquon is in that class? Hell's Bells- the guy I would have loved the Browns to draft 15 years ago, Ladanian Tomlinson didn't go that high, and the greatest RB of recent vintage Adrian Peterson didn't either. So there. If Dorsey has two communicating neurons, he's going to take the QB FIRST, (or you forget Jimmuh has told John, finding the QBOTF is job #1, #2, AND #3?) and hope Barkley falls to #4.
BTW, Brady has won more Super Bowls (or NFL Championships) than Smith, Payton, Sanders, and Brown combined so you tell me what's more important.
To be honest Po, I could live with Barkley\ Mayfield. Here's a very real possibility. Let's assume the Colts are willing to trade down- to say Denver. QBs go #1, #2, #3. Guess who's there @ #4? Your fave Barkley. We've already posted this in another thread. The 4 greatest RBs of all time- Smith, Payton, Sanders, Brown didn't get drafted #1 overall. You want to tell me Saquon is in that class? Hell's Bells- the guy I would have loved the Browns to draft 15 years ago, Ladanian Tomlinson didn't go that high, and the greatest RB of recent vintage Adrian Peterson didn't either. So there. If Dorsey has two communicating neurons, he's going to take the QB FIRST, (or you forget Jimmuh has told John, finding the QBOTF is job #1, #2, AND #3?) and hope Barkley falls to #4.
BTW, Brady has won more Super Bowls (or NFL Championships) than Smith, Payton, Sanders, and Brown combined so you tell me what's more important.
I love ya bro... but wasn't Brady drafted in the 6th round, not #1 overall?
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To be honest Po, I could live with Barkley\ Mayfield. Here's a very real possibility. Let's assume the Colts are willing to trade down- to say Denver. QBs go #1, #2, #3. Guess who's there @ #4? Your fave Barkley. We've already posted this in another thread. The 4 greatest RBs of all time- Smith, Payton, Sanders, Brown didn't get drafted #1 overall. You want to tell me Saquon is in that class? Hell's Bells- the guy I would have loved the Browns to draft 15 years ago, Ladanian Tomlinson didn't go that high, and the greatest RB of recent vintage Adrian Peterson didn't either. So there. If Dorsey has two communicating neurons, he's going to take the QB FIRST, (or you forget Jimmuh has told John, finding the QBOTF is job #1, #2, AND #3?) and hope Barkley falls to #4.
BTW, Brady has won more Super Bowls (or NFL Championships) than Smith, Payton, Sanders, and Brown combined so you tell me what's more important.
I love ya bro... but wasn't Brady drafted in the 6th round, not #1 overall?
I love ya bro... but wasn't Brady drafted in the 6th round, not #1 overall?
Well, the odds of the Patriots getting hit by lightning again are approaching zero Po . FWIW- Gipper posted the RBs drafted #1 overall since 1966, and the only one who truly lived up to his status was Earl Campbell. Bo Jackson might have if he hadn't suffered a fluke injury.
The point is, Franchise QB trumps Franchise RB by a country mile, and it's not even that close. To prove a point- I'll bet you can name me every starting QB for the teams left in the playoffs. Running backs? I'll spot you Le'Veon Bell for the Steelers. Give me three more (without looking), and you win a pair of Browns tickets.
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A RB at 1 had better be the reincarnation of Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. Barkley is not that. He had several games this year where he didn't break 100 yards. Barkley isn't even Zeke.
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Oh I forgot this is PoG's gimmick to be a Downsy level Retard. Tell us more about Hogan and TRich.
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Rosen wants to be in Cleveland -- IF AND ONLY IF the people in Browns organization are interested in supporting him.. And he actually thinks the same about any team. That's the totality of the actual quote. Yep -- he had the temerity to point out the objective fact that some organizations are dysfunctional.
Rosen at #1, DB [Fitzpatrick?] at the 4.. wouldn't hurt to go CB/WR in the second.
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There’s a lot of talent coming out at the RB position this year. The browns definitely need one of them, but I think it’s most likely that Dorsey takes his shot in the mid rounds. He has a track record of taking star quality offensive playmakers in the mid rounds (Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt) let’s see if he can do it in Cleveland. None of it will matter if he can’t get the QB situation sorted though.
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I'm just trying to wrap my head around Po apparently just discovering Ernie Davis...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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A case against taking Barkley high by a Colts writter...
PSA: Draft value and other reasons the Colts should not draft a RB early
I’m positive drafting Saquon Barkley wouldn’t be the biggest mistake we could make, but it would absolutely be stupid.
“But he’s a once in a generation talent!”
So was Todd Gurley. So was Leonard Fournette. So was Ezekiel Elliot. So was Trent Richardson. So unless we change the definition of “once in a generation” to actually mean “best college running back since literally 1 to 2 years ago” that doesn’t hold much water.
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Barkley is the closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. He's going to go to INDY to help Luck if we don't take him #1.
I'm starting to see Mayfield as the best passer from the bunch. He's pretty accurate and he brings excitement. I think he'll go pretty early, earlier than most predict. Maybe we should just take him #4.
Barkley/Mayfield could be explosive. Gordon would make it a trifecta. I'm really starting to like this scenario.
To be honest Po, I could live with Barkley\ Mayfield. Here's a very real possibility. Let's assume the Colts are willing to trade down- to say Denver. QBs go #1, #2, #3. Guess who's there @ #4? Your fave Barkley. We've already posted this in another thread. The 4 greatest RBs of all time- Smith, Payton, Sanders, Brown didn't get drafted #1 overall. You want to tell me Saquon is in that class? Hell's Bells- the guy I would have loved the Browns to draft 15 years ago, Ladanian Tomlinson didn't go that high, and the greatest RB of recent vintage Adrian Peterson didn't either. So there. If Dorsey has two communicating neurons, he's going to take the QB FIRST, (or you forget Jimmuh has told John, finding the QBOTF is job #1, #2, AND #3?) and hope Barkley falls to #4.
BTW, Brady has won more Super Bowls (or NFL Championships) than Smith, Payton, Sanders, and Brown combined so you tell me what's more important.
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Well....lets see Who WERE the greatest talents at RB of a Generation. I will go here by the era in which they played...not by their personal birth period:
Baby Boomer Generation: 1946-1964. I say Jim Brown who played from 1957 to 1965.
Gen X. 1965 to 1982 I think I have to say OJ Simpson....who played from 1969 to 1979 (I might have said Walter Payton...but he played in a cross generation time frame....1975-1987)
Millenials 1982 to 2000 I think you have to say Barry Sanders. (Emmit Smith was also "cross generation: 1990 to 2004....I will stick with Sanders)
????Generation....what are they calling this? 2000-2018: Candidates: LaDanian Tomlinson...or Adrian Peterson. That is a hard choice, fair to say? I think I would come down on the side of LDT...but just by a nose hair.
The Next Generation: IF Saquon Barkley....or anyone else...wants to be known as the RB of a Generation....then he will HAVE to prove to be as good as the likes of Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, LaDanian Tomlinson...or Adrian Peterson....from my point of view.
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How about The Lost Generation.....from 1928 to 1945. That distinction may actually belong to Akron Ohio's own Cliff Battles. He led the league in rushing the most times...and also led his team to a title in 1937. His biggest competition is Bronko Nagurski.
How about the GI Generation: 1910 to 1928. Stats are pretty much difficult to discern....so I am going to make an Executive Decision and say that the RB of the GI Generation was Jim Thorpe.......and who is going to argue with that?
So...you got:
Jim Thorpe
Cliff Battles/Bronko Nagurski
Jim Brown
OJ Simpson
.....Walter Payton (cross gen.)
Barry Sanders
....Emmitt Smith (cross gen.)
LaDanian Tomlinson/ Adrian Peterson
If you don't fit in with these guys....FRACK off in terms of calling someone the RB of a generation.
Fair enough?
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A RB at 1 had better be the reincarnation of Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. Barkley is not that. He had several games this year where he didn't break 100 yards. Barkley isn't even Zeke.
A RB at 1 had better be the reincarnation of Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. Barkley is not that. He had several games this year where he didn't break 100 yards. Barkley isn't even Zeke.
The thing is that he does both
Rushing & Receiving & Kickoff Return.
He nearly matched Zeke in yards from scrimmage. He is a little bit bigger than Zeke but much faster. The point is, he is a legitimate weapon and it's easy to see what he can project to be at the next level. If "you" can't see it it's because of Cleveland's blind obsession with every new QB "savior" that comes along.
Barkley is the "next generation". When they say he is "generational"- it's because of his style, his build, the speed and the hands that will define the "next generation of runningbacks", all around solid player. Not that he's going to be better than AP or Sanders. It's because those players changed the game with their play. I don't know how else to explain it to you.
AllRushing Team GP Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 100+ 2013 OSU 7 30 4.3 262 8.7 37.4 2 57 1 2014 OSU 15 273 18.2 1878 6.9 125.2 18 85 9 2015 OSU 13 289 22.2 1821 6.3 140.1 23 80 12 AllReceiving Team GP Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 100+ 2013 OSU 7 3 23 7.7 3.3 11 1 0 2014 OSU 15 28 220 7.9 14.7 22 0 0 2015 OSU 13 27 206 7.6 15.8 30 0 0 AllPunt Return Kick Return Punt Return Kick Return Returning Team GP PR Yds TD Lng Ret Yds TD Lng 2014 OSU 15 0 0 0 0 1 16 0 16 2015 OSU 13 2 13 0 10 0 0 0 0 Rushing Receiving Scrimmage Year School Conf Class Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD *2015 Penn State Big Ten FR RB 11 182 1076 5.9 7 20 161 8.1 1 202 1237 6.1 8 *2016 Penn State Big Ten SO RB 14 272 1496 5.5 18 28 402 14.4 4 300 1898 6.3 22 2017 Penn State Big Ten JR RB 13 217 1271 5.9 18 54 632 11.7 3 271 1903 7.0 21 The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Here's Barkley's stats for last season. On par with Zeke.
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Hold on, hold on.
Are you saying you like Barkley PoG?
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The Colts fans want to draft Barkley soooo bad.
Hogan - Barkley - Gordon
From Worst to First next year.
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The Colts fans want to draft Barkley soooo bad.
Hogan - Barkley - Gordon
From Worst to First next year.
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