Whelp... Shurms Is Gone
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Just be careful what you wish for Browns fans. Remember things can always get worse. Do I think Shurmur is the answer? probably not. But out of the realistic rumored candidates none of them really excite me. Saban and Chip Kelly are very unlikely to leave their schools. Saban already tried the NFL and hated it. Chip Kelly already turned down the Tampa job, which is much better opening than Cleveland. John Gruden would bring excitement but other than his Super Bowl win with Dungy's team, he had a pretty mediocre career. But the name that scares me the most is Josh McDaniels. Honestly I think that Haslam is a smart man, but if they hire McDaniels we are in trouble. Remember...it can always get worse. Browns fans wanted Mangini gone and we got Shurmur...
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Let me throw another name out there as a Head Coaching possibility.....Kyle Shanahan. I think he might be a real nice fit for the Browns.
We pretty much will know who is leaving in the next 2 weeks. It may be a game or few into the playoffs before we hear about replacements. I think it's looking like a clean sweep of the coaching staff & I don't think that's "starting over" as whoever comes in will inherit a number of solid players who already have decent chemistry built.
Time will tell.
Mike
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Let me throw another name out there as a Head Coaching possibility.....Kyle Shanahan. I think he might be a real nice fit for the Browns.
We pretty much will know who is leaving in the next 2 weeks. It may be a game or few into the playoffs before we hear about replacements. I think it's looking like a clean sweep of the coaching staff & I don't think that's "starting over" as whoever comes in will inherit a number of solid players who already have decent chemistry built.
Time will tell.
Mike
Let me throw another name out there as a Head Coaching possibility.....Kyle Shanahan. I think he might be a real nice fit for the Browns.
We pretty much will know who is leaving in the next 2 weeks. It may be a game or few into the playoffs before we hear about replacements. I think it's looking like a clean sweep of the coaching staff & I don't think that's "starting over" as whoever comes in will inherit a number of solid players who already have decent chemistry built.
Time will tell.
Mike
We know Shur-loss is leaving about noon on December 31st. That much is a given.
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In fairness to Holmgren, after losing out on Harbaugh, it was Heckert that advised him to look at his ole buddy Fritz's nephew's corner. This led Holmgren to feelings of negotism and a bad decision.
Heckert's mess with Shurmur probably won't make finding a job any easier, by far his biggest mistake, even beyond personal.
The sad thing, the only real answer was for Holmgren to hit the sidelines to get this rig up and running, once that didn't happen, it was only a matter of time before it died.
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I've new we flip flopped on Shurmer. He's always been a bum. I know there are two games left, but we are done winning this season. Denver looks unstoppable and the Steelers will be playing for a playoff spot (maybe even the division).
This is the main reason why Shurmer will be gone. You ready? Here it is: Pat Shurmer inherited a 5-11 team. In the two years he has been here, we have acquired WAY MORE talent than before. And what has he done with all that talent? Turned us into a 5-11 team. Well done Pat. You may now go back to being an overrated coordinator.
I will say this about Shurmer though. It's not really his fault that he's a bad head coach. He was never qualified to be a head coach and didn't deserve to be. He was in over his head and got off on the wrong foot. He tried to do way too much the first season (no offensive coordinator and calling plays). You will not be missed Pat.
What you fail to acknowledge like many on this board is he's had below average talent on offense the last two years. Now this year Richardson has been good, not great. Josh Gordon has been good the last seven weeks and Little has started to catch the ball better. That still doesn't overshadow Weeden's shortcomings. He is one of the worst starting QBs in the league.
What you fail to acknowledge like many on this board is he's had below average talent on offense the last two years. Now this year Richardson has been good, not great. Josh Gordon has been good the last seven weeks and Little has started to catch the ball better. That still doesn't overshadow Weeden's shortcomings. He is one of the worst starting QBs in the league.
The problem was Weeden was a bumb. Richardson was pretty good, not great his first year. He netted us another first rounder.
Are you guys really ready to commit to Rosen or Darnold for the next 10 years? I don't like either of them THAT MUCH.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Just be careful what you wish for Browns fans. Remember things can always get worse. Do I think Shurmur is the answer? probably not. But out of the realistic rumored candidates none of them really excite me. Saban and Chip Kelly are very unlikely to leave their schools. Saban already tried the NFL and hated it. Chip Kelly already turned down the Tampa job, which is much better opening than Cleveland. John Gruden would bring excitement but other than his Super Bowl win with Dungy's team, he had a pretty mediocre career. But the name that scares me the most is Josh McDaniels. Honestly I think that Haslam is a smart man, but if they hire McDaniels we are in trouble. Remember...it can always get worse. Browns fans wanted Mangini gone and we got Shurmur...
Just be careful what you wish for Browns fans. Remember things can always get worse. Do I think Shurmur is the answer? probably not. But out of the realistic rumored candidates none of them really excite me. Saban and Chip Kelly are very unlikely to leave their schools. Saban already tried the NFL and hated it. Chip Kelly already turned down the Tampa job, which is much better opening than Cleveland. John Gruden would bring excitement but other than his Super Bowl win with Dungy's team, he had a pretty mediocre career. But the name that scares me the most is Josh McDaniels. Honestly I think that Haslam is a smart man, but if they hire McDaniels we are in trouble. Remember...it can always get worse. Browns fans wanted Mangini gone and we got Shurmur...
You were right... it did get worse. Waaay worse. Back to back 5-11 seasons, that's 10 wins. It'll take Hue 20 years to match that at this rate!
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I love Cousins. (even more than most of us southerners ;))
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so would u draft a qb instead ? and use that money elsewhere ?
Yes, just because we draft a QB high doesn't mean we have to start him day one. (And we won't)
Cousins isn't the only fish in the 2018 Quarterback pond- but he will be by far the most expensive, and not necessarily the best.
Right now, I'm firmly in the majority thinking on what is going to happen. That's trade for Alex Smith and draft whoever you feel is going to be the best qb @ #1 overall. Anyone who thinks we're taking Saquon Barkley with the #1 overall didn't listen to Haslam introducing Dorsey. QBOTF is Job 1.
Instead of tossing a ton of your cap space at one player (Cousins) spread it around a little bit to fill several other glaring holes on the roster.
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Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
I picture PO with a big bowl of weed checking off a To Do list from 2012.
Granola looking white dude with Dreads and posters of Trent and Josh on the walls.
And a cat. Stoners love cats.
Zombo
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Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
I picture PO with a big bowl of weed checking off a To Do list from 2012.
Granola looking white dude with Dreads and posters of Trent and Josh on the walls.
And a cat. Stoners love cats.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
Brady Quinn is gonna take us to the Super Bowl!
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Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
I picture PO with a big bowl of weed checking off a To Do list from 2012.
Granola looking white dude with Dreads and posters of Trent and Josh on the walls.
And a cat. Stoners love cats.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
I picture PO with a big bowl of weed checking off a To Do list from 2012.
Granola looking white dude with Dreads and posters of Trent and Josh on the walls.
And a cat. Stoners love cats.
Zombo
Just remember to keep kitty away from the reefer.
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What you fail to acknowledge like many on this board is he's had below average talent on offense the last two years. Now this year Richardson has been good, not great. Josh Gordon has been good the last seven weeks and Little has started to catch the ball better. That still doesn't overshadow Weeden's shortcomings. He is one of the worst starting QBs in the league.
The problem was Weeden was a bumb. Richardson was pretty good, not great his first year. He netted us another first rounder.
Are you guys really ready to commit to Rosen or Darnold for the next 10 years? I don't like either of them THAT MUCH.
The problem was Weeden was a bumb. Richardson was pretty good, not great his first year. He netted us another first rounder.
Are you guys really ready to commit to Rosen or Darnold for the next 10 years? I don't like either of them THAT MUCH.
Are you really drudging up a 6 year old thread?
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I love Cousins. (even more than most of us southerners ;))
Did you marry yours?
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Did PO just respond to a post from over five years ago?
I picture PO with a big bowl of weed checking off a To Do list from 2012.
Granola looking white dude with Dreads and posters of Trent and Josh on the walls.
And a cat. Stoners love cats.
Zombo
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