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  • @jrb12711 said:

    Guys, come on. If the Browns seriously offered the Patriots a top 5 pick compared to a 2nd round pick they would have taken it. This is just sensationalist garbage. The Patriots have become a dynasty in large part to making shrewd moves in the best interest of the organization. It's all but impossible to think they would have left that much draft capital on the table because of not wanting to trade with us. Use your noodle.

    Maybe it came down to who Bill actually wanted to trade too. 

    SF he probably recognized a franchise heading the correct direction and would prob be able to safely secure Jimmy G 

    VS

    Browns. Who doesn't take the best coach in the game to figure out Cleveland is probably going to struggle and within 6 months to a couple of years Jimmy G would leave cleveland to maybe a closer more dangerous FOE. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, colts, miami or even the Jets. 

    Put it this way. Would you turn your own 1st rounder into a 2nd rounder if that meant Pittsburgh had to lose a 24 year old Big Ben?

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    @cdl15 said:

    Maybe it came down to who Bill actually wanted to trade too. 

    SF he probably recognized a franchise heading the correct direction and would prob be able to safely secure Jimmy G 

    VS

    Browns. Who doesn't take the best coach in the game to figure out Cleveland is probably going to struggle and within 6 months to a couple of years Jimmy G would leave cleveland to maybe a closer more dangerous FOE. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, colts, miami or even the Jets. 

    Put it this way. Would you turn your own 1st rounder into a 2nd rounder if that meant Pittsburgh had to lose a 24 year old Big Ben?

    Eh, by that logic you'd never trade anyone ever. I mean Jimmy is a FA this year by definition, nothing is stopping him from doing what you've noted. Maybe less likely sure, but if they saw him as that strong of an asset you'd never trade him in the first place.

  • 2 recentish trades come to mind where the Pats dealt with the likes of Sashi Brown, and l'd say the Browns got the better end of the deal. 

    Getting Collins and unloading Mingo for an actual draft pick. 

    Hardly fleecings, but a tip of the scale in our direction l think. Clearly the Pats feared Sashi Brown's dealing mojo and wanted no more of it.

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    @ibleedbrown said:

    2 recentish trades come to mind where the Pats dealt with the likes of Sashi Brown, and l'd say the Browns got the better end of the deal. 

    Getting Collins and unloading Mingo for an actual draft pick. 

    Hardly fleecings, but a tip of the scale in our direction l think. Clearly the Pats feared Sashi Brown's dealing mojo and wanted no more of it.

    Reports were that BB didn't like dealing with Brown/Browns....because Sashi was always trying to get the better end of the deal. 

    So....there may be some truth to the theory that BB didn't want to again have it look like he got burned by Sashi Brown. (Hell...it wouldn't surprise me if Sashi lands a job with the Pats...if BB stays there.)

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    2 recentish trades come to mind where the Pats dealt with the likes of Sashi Brown, and l'd say the Browns got the better end of the deal. 

    Getting Collins and unloading Mingo for an actual draft pick. 

    Hardly fleecings, but a tip of the scale in our direction l think. Clearly the Pats feared Sashi Brown's dealing mojo and wanted no more of it.

    Reports were that BB didn't like dealing with Brown/Browns....because Sashi was always trying to get the better end of the deal. 

    So....there may be some truth to the theory that BB didn't want to again have it look like he got burned by Sashi Brown. (Hell...it wouldn't surprise me if Sashi lands a job with the Pats...if BB stays there.)

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    @the-gipper said:

    Reports were that BB didn't like dealing with Brown/Browns....because Sashi was always trying to get the better end of the deal. 

    So....there may be some truth to the theory that BB didn't want to again have it look like he got burned by Sashi Brown. (Hell...it wouldn't surprise me if Sashi lands a job with the Pats...if BB stays there.)

    Well Sashi certainly didn't get the best of this deal buy a damn sight.

    WSS

  • @the-gipper said:

    Reports were that BB didn't like dealing with Brown/Browns....because Sashi was always trying to get the better end of the deal. 

    So....there may be some truth to the theory that BB didn't want to again have it look like he got burned by Sashi Brown. (Hell...it wouldn't surprise me if Sashi lands a job with the Pats...if BB stays there.)

    Well Sashi certainly didn't get the best of this deal buy a damn sight.

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    Well Sashi certainly didn't get the best of this deal buy a damn sight.

    WSS

    Well....the reports are that he wasn't even allowed to participate in negotiations.  But...if he had?  What may have happened?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well Sashi certainly didn't get the best of this deal buy a damn sight.

    WSS

    Well....the reports are that he wasn't even allowed to participate in negotiations.  But...if he had?  What may have happened?

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    @the-gipper said:

    Well....the reports are that he wasn't even allowed to participate in negotiations.  But...if he had?  What may have happened?

    The reporters? I tend to take all their shyt with a grain of salt.

    If I was going to burn the second pick in the draft I prefer to burn it on Jimmy than anybody else available.

    WSS

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well....the reports are that he wasn't even allowed to participate in negotiations.  But...if he had?  What may have happened?

    The reporters? I tend to take all their shyt with a grain of salt.

    If I was going to burn the second pick in the draft I prefer to burn it on Jimmy than anybody else available.

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    The reporters? I tend to take all their shyt with a grain of salt.

    Are you buying the "I hate the First Amendment" horseshite?

    If I was going to burn the second pick in the draft I prefer to burn it on Jimmy than anybody else available.

    Second pick...or second rounder?

    WSS

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    Second pic.

    WSS

  • Second pic.

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    Second pic.

    WSS

    You mean #4?  

    I don't think anyone thought he was worth that until/unless he went on this 4-5 game win streak with the Niners.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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    Our second pick in the first round.

    And only if I was going to trade for somebody.

    I'd rather have him than Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins. And that's only if we sign any of the three to a multi-year deal.

    WSS

  • @cdl15 said:

    Maybe it came down to who Bill actually wanted to trade too. 

    SF he probably recognized a franchise heading the correct direction and would prob be able to safely secure Jimmy G 

    VS

    Browns. Who doesn't take the best coach in the game to figure out Cleveland is probably going to struggle and within 6 months to a couple of years Jimmy G would leave cleveland to maybe a closer more dangerous FOE. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, colts, miami or even the Jets. 

    Put it this way. Would you turn your own 1st rounder into a 2nd rounder if that meant Pittsburgh had to lose a 24 year old Big Ben?

    Eh, by that logic you'd never trade anyone ever. I mean Jimmy is a FA this year by definition, nothing is stopping him from doing what you've noted. Maybe less likely sure, but if they saw him as that strong of an asset you'd never trade him in the first place.

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    @jrb12711 said:

    Eh, by that logic you'd never trade anyone ever. I mean Jimmy is a FA this year by definition, nothing is stopping him from doing what you've noted. Maybe less likely sure, but if they saw him as that strong of an asset you'd never trade him in the first place.

    Joe Thomas almost verified this almost word for word