Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Shmuck crow I would have no problem at all with barkley at #4 But just as long as we do not trade down I would be happy with derwin fitz or chubb
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The Giants are also in play for Barkley. Saquon is the best player in the draft. I don't know how you can justify taking Garrett #1 overall, he barely impacts the game on a play to play basis.
SB will impact every play on offense. It helps WHOEVER is going to be QB.
Say the Browns DO take Barkley #1- what happens with the next two picks. I've heard that 3 or 4 QBs are the best QBs in the draft.
Rosen's the best, no Darnolds the best... NO it's Mayfield. What about Allen? What about Rudolph or Jackson?... There is no question on who is the best runningback in the draft. Worse case scenario if Browns go Barkley #1? Rosen goes to the Giants and Darnold to whoever trades with the Colts. Well, 2 situations arise, 1) We are the team that trades with Indy to move up and secure the QB or 2)we hold our load and pick one of the other 4 remaining "best Qbs of the draft".
Anybody could do better than Kizer did last year... and anybody will and should be able to shatter that bar with Barkley as the RB and Gordon as his #1. Coleman with another year and Njoku coming into his second year. A lot of our players will be entering their 2nd or 3rd year in the league and that's when players typically make a jump. We might surprise ourselves when these players mature.
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Using the #1 overall pick on a position that has the shortest shelf life is not a sound philosophy PoG.
There's no reason to use such a valuable pick on a position that has been shown can be very ably manned by mid to late round picks.
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
I'm sorry but this is the worst plan ever.
No, nobody needs a #1 RB, nobody. The notion that you don't take a RB #1 is stupid to me. If you have a chance to take an impact player(do you know what an impact player does?) you take that player and you don't look back.
Crofell is the absolute worst case scenario. I'd rather go get Jamal Lewis back out of retirement and watch him do another victory lap around the stadium.
Duke Johnson is not a feature RB.
We can get the best player in the draft in Saquon Barkley and fill a huge need without throwing money at Crowfell, who is a FA. I would rather draft Penny late then even resign Crow if we had the chance. Crow did well for an UDFA and he should get picked up somewhere, just not by us.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Using the #1 overall pick on a position that has the shortest shelf life is not a sound philosophy PoG.
There's no reason to use such a valuable pick on a position that has been shown can be very ably manned by mid to late round picks.
Using the #1 overall pick on a position that has the shortest shelf life is not a sound philosophy PoG.
There's no reason to use such a valuable pick on a position that has been shown can be very ably manned by mid to late round picks.
We spent the #3 on Joe Thomas, played and made probowls for 10 years... How many games have we won? How many Playoff performances? How many games have we watched the Browns play after the New Year ball dropped?
I'd take Barkley for 7 years and 5 playoff performances over another 10 years of suck.
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Using the #1 overall pick on a position that has the shortest shelf life is not a sound philosophy PoG.
There's no reason to use such a valuable pick on a position that has been shown can be very ably manned by mid to late round picks.
We spent the #3 on Joe Thomas, played and made probowls for 10 years... How many games have we won? How many Playoff performances? How many games have we watched the Browns play after the New Year ball dropped?
I'd take Barkley for 7 years and 5 playoff performances over another 10 years of suck.
We spent the #3 on Joe Thomas, played and made probowls for 10 years... How many games have we won? How many Playoff performances? How many games have we watched the Browns play after the New Year ball dropped?
I'd take Barkley for 7 years and 5 playoff performances over another 10 years of suck.
What does Joe Thomas being taken #3 overall have to do with the poor decision that taking a RB #1 overall would be?
And how does taking Barkley #1 overall guarantee anything?
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You need a weapon, the first guy is never going to tackle Barkley, he's the focus of attention. That opens up Gordon, Coleman, Njoku and Duke Johnson. There is soooo much to be gained by having a RB that can blow the game open on any play.
There are not any other RBs that can do what Barkley can do. The kid is only 20 years old! He's only going to get better.
With SOOO many QBs coming out this year you basically have your pick at 4. You won't find a rare talent like Barkley anywhere in the next 4 drafts.
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223 pounds, moving like a damn cat.
The draft is a crap shoot. Myles Garrett #1 overall. What did Myles do that Conley didn't? He got injured, he didn't even go to the London game. I'm by no means hating on Myles, just saying, shelf life is whatever you make it, to me- it's an excuse to make yourself feel better passing on a franchise player.
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WE ARE A RUNNING TEAM. We have the number one ranked rushing Defense. If we took Barkley we could have the #1 rushing attack. That would lead to wins. A lot more wins than taking another rookie QB who is going to suck another year from our lives.
Gordon needs to have a big and productive year next year. A runningback as good as Laveon Bell will help that happen. If we take Barkley, look I don't care where or how they have to take him. Trade up to #2 if you have to, but you HAVE to get Barkley.
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Sorry Po- finding a #1 RB is not the Browns major problem. Finding a QB that can put an end to the endless jersey is....
Here's the top 5 running backs of 2017, and where they were drafted....
1 Kareem Hunt, #86 third round.
2 Todd Gurley #10 first round.
3 LeVeon Bell #48 second round.
4 Lesean McCoy #53 second round
5 Mark Ingraham #22 first round
So just keep on dreaming about the latest guy that you can put his poster on your wall next to Trent Richardson's. I've already said Tom Brady has more SB (or championship wins) than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined.
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
Sorry Po- finding a #1 RB is not the Browns major problem. Finding a QB that can put an end to the endless jersey is....
Here's the top 5 running backs of 2017, and where they were drafted....
1 Kareem Hunt, #86 third round.
2 Todd Gurley #10 first round.
3 LeVeon Bell #48 second round.
4 Lesean McCoy #53 second round
5 Mark Ingraham #22 first round
So just keep on dreaming about the latest guy that you can put his poster on your wall next to Trent Richardson's. I've already said Tom Brady has more SB (or championship wins) than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined.
Sorry Po- finding a #1 RB is not the Browns major problem. Finding a QB that can put an end to the endless jersey is....
Here's the top 5 running backs of 2017, and where they were drafted....
1 Kareem Hunt, #86 third round.
2 Todd Gurley #10 first round.
3 LeVeon Bell #48 second round.
4 Lesean McCoy #53 second round
5 Mark Ingraham #22 first round
So just keep on dreaming about the latest guy that you can put his poster on your wall next to Trent Richardson's. I've already said Tom Brady has more SB (or championship wins) than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined.
...and none of these guys are on Barkley's level. So we could legit have the best RB in the NFL. That's worth the #1 pick over a GAMBLE on a long litany of #1 overall QB busts.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Gamble on a QB with #4 not #1, at #1 you take a difference maker. Somebody who is going to put wins on the board. Kizer could win if we had Barkley. Saquon is a huge boost to a team in DESPARATE need of a 'scorer of points'.
Exhibit A- Saquon Barkley... Only the Browns could screw this up.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Sorry Po- finding a #1 RB is not the Browns major problem. Finding a QB that can put an end to the endless jersey is....
Here's the top 5 running backs of 2017, and where they were drafted....
1 Kareem Hunt, #86 third round.
2 Todd Gurley #10 first round.
3 LeVeon Bell #48 second round.
4 Lesean McCoy #53 second round
5 Mark Ingraham #22 first round
So just keep on dreaming about the latest guy that you can put his poster on your wall next to Trent Richardson's. I've already said Tom Brady has more SB (or championship wins) than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders combined.
...and none of these guys are on Barkley's level. So we could legit have the best RB in the NFL. That's worth the #1 pick over a GAMBLE on a long litany of #1 overall QB busts.
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Gamble on a QB with #4 not #1, at #1 you take a difference maker. Somebody who is going to put wins on the board. Kizer could win if we had Barkley. Saquon is a huge boost to a team in DESPARATE need of a 'scorer of points'.
Exhibit A- Saquon Barkley... Only the Browns could screw this up.
Gamble on a QB with #4 not #1, at #1 you take a difference maker. Somebody who is going to put wins on the board. Kizer could win if we had Barkley. Saquon is a huge boost to a team in DESPARATE need of a 'scorer of points'.
Exhibit A- Saquon Barkley... Only the Browns could screw this up.
No, only you could screw this up. QB is the # 1 difference maker- name Brady's running backs if you dare....
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He's probably better than Bell. Bell was #3 on that list, sooo he's at least that good. He's better than Gurly. Better than Ingraham.
Barkley has some work to do to make the #1 overall pay off. But, I have a feeling that he will come as billed.
Rosen's been injured, he's slow, he'll be killed in Cleveland. Kizer is much bigger than Rosen and he barely survived.
Darnold is NOT Wentz. We can't just draft another red-head and hope that they all play the same.
There's tons of QBs. It's only possible for 2 of them to be gone and I don't think a even one of them will be gone before 4. Too many Question marks to gamble that high on a QB.
Fitzpatrick, Chubbs even the OTs coming out are more a sure thing than these "top2" QBs.
I actually think that at least one of the two teams at 2 and 3 pick a defensive player. That's pretty good odds that our QB will be there at 4. Actually even better chance if we like Allen, Rudolph or Mayfield, even Jackson.
BUUUUT, if you don't take Barkley #1 he's is definitely gone by 4.
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Picking a RB # 1 is stupid, I am sorry but it is. We don't have a real RB problem, Crowell and Johnson are serviceable, instead of creating a need the GM should sign Crowell for another 3 yrs, maybe even over pay, and work on picking the best possible QB at #1. If, and then the best player at #4 which won't be Barkley.
I'm sorry but this is the worst plan ever.
No, nobody needs a #1 RB, nobody. The notion that you don't take a RB #1 is stupid to me. If you have a chance to take an impact player(do you know what an impact player does?) you take that player and you don't look back.
Crofell is the absolute worst case scenario. I'd rather go get Jamal Lewis back out of retirement and watch him do another victory lap around the stadium.
Duke Johnson is not a feature RB.
We can get the best player in the draft in Saquon Barkley and fill a huge need without throwing money at Crowfell, who is a FA. I would rather draft Penny late then even resign Crow if we had the chance. Crow did well for an UDFA and he should get picked up somewhere, just not by us.
I'm sorry but this is the worst plan ever.
No, nobody needs a #1 RB, nobody. The notion that you don't take a RB #1 is stupid to me. If you have a chance to take an impact player(do you know what an impact player does?) you take that player and you don't look back.
Crofell is the absolute worst case scenario. I'd rather go get Jamal Lewis back out of retirement and watch him do another victory lap around the stadium.
Duke Johnson is not a feature RB.
We can get the best player in the draft in Saquon Barkley and fill a huge need without throwing money at Crowfell, who is a FA. I would rather draft Penny late then even resign Crow if we had the chance. Crow did well for an UDFA and he should get picked up somewhere, just not by us.
The issue is what the priority is, RB is way low on what the Browns need. Take the top QB #1 and the best player available at #4. My preference is Chubb, Fitzpatrick or Derwin. We can live with an average back. We need a QB, WRs and help in the secondary. Thats why you resign Crowell so you are not creating a need you don't need too. The Browns have done this far too often. Letting players walk causing voids you have to use draft picks on.
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These QB's are not Brady. They are more of the David Carr and Leaf incarnations.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I'm sorry but this is the worst plan ever.
No, nobody needs a #1 RB, nobody. The notion that you don't take a RB #1 is stupid to me. If you have a chance to take an impact player(do you know what an impact player does?) you take that player and you don't look back.
Crofell is the absolute worst case scenario. I'd rather go get Jamal Lewis back out of retirement and watch him do another victory lap around the stadium.
Duke Johnson is not a feature RB.
We can get the best player in the draft in Saquon Barkley and fill a huge need without throwing money at Crowfell, who is a FA. I would rather draft Penny late then even resign Crow if we had the chance. Crow did well for an UDFA and he should get picked up somewhere, just not by us.
The issue is what the priority is, RB is way low on what the Browns need. Take the top QB #1 and the best player available at #4. My preference is Chubb, Fitzpatrick or Derwin. We can live with an average back. We need a QB, WRs and help in the secondary. Thats why you resign Crowell so you are not creating a need you don't need too. The Browns have done this far too often. Letting players walk causing voids you have to use draft picks on.
The issue is what the priority is, RB is way low on what the Browns need. Take the top QB #1 and the best player available at #4. My preference is Chubb, Fitzpatrick or Derwin. We can live with an average back. We need a QB, WRs and help in the secondary. Thats why you resign Crowell so you are not creating a need you don't need too. The Browns have done this far too often. Letting players walk causing voids you have to use draft picks on.
I like those Defensive players as well, much more than any of the TOP 3 QBs. They won't fix the Browns alone. Nobody can. Barkley can't. But, Barkley can FREEZE the LBs and Safeties to allow Gordon and the WR/TEs to make plays. A QB's job is to get the playmakers the ball. We need playmakers.
Crowfell is not a playmaker.
Every team can make a case to move up and take Barkley. Nobody is going to be trying to move heaven and earth to come up and get josh rosen.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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