Mangini on Wimbley
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It is very possible we will see a quantum leap...i think we will see more then that this club has very deep raw talent but has lacked direction,training and a swift kick in the nads every once in while to keep them alert...
Mangini insists on the team practicing tackles and secondary moves and being versatile which are thing that should have already been incorporated into their genes but due to pathetic coaching were not...this team is going to be far better than anyone outside of the browns can even imagine yet....
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Stallworth too (I assume)
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Not to even comment on wimp, it is refreshing to listen to Mangini.
We have a actual coach who communicates his vision.
Such a polar opposite of what we have had the last 4 years.
That has to make any player better.
I love it!
Not to even comment on wimp, it is refreshing to listen to Mangini.
We have a actual coach who communicates his vision.
Such a polar opposite of what we have had the last 4 years.
That has to make any player better.
I love it!
I'm the same way. It's kind of amazing to hear something other than "we'll play our best and try to get a win."
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense... and added Mack, Womack, Foster, St. Clair, Robiskie, Massoquai, Furrey, Patten, Royal, James Davis, and the Missouri TE whose name inexplicably escapes me.Meanwhile, our defensive personnel looks to be miles better than that team's, at least on paper.
A writer with a POSITIVE spin on the Browns? Who was it? I'd like to shake their hand, especially after reading the drivel most of them are paid to write.
Mike
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Not to even comment on wimp, it is refreshing to listen to Mangini.
We have a actual coach who communicates his vision.
Such a polar opposite of what we have had the last 4 years.
That has to make any player better.
I love it!
I'm the same way. It's kind of amazing to hear something other than "we'll play our best and try to get a win."
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I think one of the biggest changes this year is in the coaching, especially with the coordinators....We finally have some coaches with a bit of grit in their gut rather than rookies with potential....
The head coach is mostly the face of the organization but the coordinators are the ones that make it work... I still can see the defensive unit carrying Buddy Ryan off the field after the Bears super bowl victory... This past year we witnessed the love feast thrown Dick LeBeau's way by the steelers defensive unit during super bowl week...
These guys along with the position coaches are in the trenches with the players and the players often take on the persona of their mentors... Maybe we finally got that mean streak with the addition of Bryan Cox... Hopefully this nice guy defense playing not to lose is a thing of the past....
peace
T.Dawg
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense... and added Mack, Womack, Foster, St. Clair, Robiskie, Massoquai, Furrey, Patten, Royal, James Davis, and the Missouri TE whose name inexplicably escapes me.Meanwhile, our defensive personnel looks to be miles better than that team's, at least on paper.
A writer with a POSITIVE spin on the Browns? Who was it? I'd like to shake their hand, especially after reading the drivel most of them are paid to write.
Mike
A writer with a POSITIVE spin on the Browns? Who was it? I'd like to shake their hand, especially after reading the drivel most of them are paid to write.
Mike
Well we know it wasn't Tony Grossi. The Browns could win the Super Bowl and Grossi would write an article that we didn't win by enough.
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense...add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
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@shepwrite said:
I can't remember which writer it was, but somebody pointed out this morning that we've lost only Jurevicious, Shaffer, and Winslow from the 2007 offense...add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
Who is the primadonna?
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@jadbf said:
And you can try to claim Cowher wasn't a great communicator, but I'd disagree and say he did very well and getting his team to see and play by his vision.Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin" -
add sean jones and that's pretty much the list that matters from either side of the ball. you can put Shaffer in the Seth McKinney file, the two rooks will hopefully fill Joe's role and that leaves the primadonna and sean's positions as suspect at this point. still, upgrades and holes filled everywhere, things are certainly looking up.
Who is the primadonna?
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I was againt the Mangini hire at first because I wanted them to hold out one of the high profile guys like Shanahan, but I have to say I like what I have seen and heard so far. I think Ryan was a stellar hire on the defense side of the ball and I think he transforms the raw talent (like Wimbley) into a top ten defensive unit. My hope is that they can revive the offensive side of the ball to make the Browns competitive in the division (it would be nice to have at least a .500 division record) If that happens we are in for a good season overall because the schedule outside the division is theoretically pretty easy. I am going to head back to Cleveland for the preseason game against Detroit so it will be nice to see how things translate to game situations. Good stuff in this thread!
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@jadbf said:
And you can try to claim Cowher wasn't a great communicator, but I'd disagree and say he did very well and getting his team to see and play by his vision.Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
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Really good post JADBF.
I think anyone on the receiving end of his wrath (and spit) would never say he wasn't a communicator.
I think he was the prefect mixture of communicator and motivator
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
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i've always thought Cohwer is underappreciated as a communicator. you listen to his speeches to players on old film it is some of the best out there IMO. even as the special team guy he constantly overshadowed Marty and stole his thunder in CLE, whether he meant to or not.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
How about when Cowher told his guys before the first game back in the new stadium that the Browns refused to introduce his players before the game? Wasn't true of course but the team bought into it and came out even more fired up en route to a 43-0 drubbing.
That sort of thing is genius. It reminds me of something Woody Hayes would have done when it came to playing Michigan.
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Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
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Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
Cowher coached with emotion... I played for a few coaches like that... They could get you to run through walls for them if they asked....
The modern head coach is more of a people manager while the coordinators do the actual coaching.... These players are set financially for life, some could care less about the rah, rah---they've been coddled since high school...
Do you realize that both Winslow & Edwards have already pocketed 20 million each since they've been a Brown... They'll get even richer in their next contract as Winslow has already proven...
The head coaches job is to motivate these players into playing to their potential...
Cowher using the disrespect card was brilliant but that card can be played only so many times.... The one thing that made Cowher a winner was the players knew who was in charge... It wasn't the GM, it was the head coach... Romeo never had that authority in Cleveland and the players knew it....
Good coaches demand that authority, I think maybe Romeo was happy to just finally make it and he did deserved his day in the sun (he earned it).... He just wasn't strong enough or secure enough to demand what he needed to be successful...
It seems that Mangini has that authority and the players know it.....
peace
T.Dawg
Really good post with a lot of good points!
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sisky sounds to me like u need a fix. hit me up lol
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