Suppose...the Browns don't use any first round pick on a qb...
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Didn't all the experts before the draft last year say this years QB's are better?
eh...it's mixed I think. The point is Wentz for sure(and Goff too) is better than what these qbs are now projected to be. Not a single nfl team right now would trade wents/goff for the #1 overall pick in this draft.
eh...it's mixed I think. The point is Wentz for sure(and Goff too) is better than what these qbs are now projected to be. Not a single nfl team right now would trade wents/goff for the #1 overall pick in this draft.
Hind sight is 20/20 Taco so why would a team thrilled with the results of their investment give that up for the unproven? Did Goff really straighten out all his critics last year at this time? I don't think he did if memory serves me right.
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They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a
project.
like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop,
then see what you have. With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work
for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
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They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a
project.
like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop,
then see what you have. With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work
for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a project. like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop, then see what you have.
With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
Good questions... problem with the premise is that Smith and Cousins are too dissimilar to place on either side of that "or" in the premise.
As has been said... IF we land Cousins, then you have a five-year starter on our roster and what you posture is a viable route. Of course the QB in training that I'd want is Benkert... but I don't see Cousins coming here.
Smith on the other hand cannot be viewed as a solution over the same time period. So if it is Smith, the far more viable option IMO, then you go after the best QB you see in this draft. If it takes the overall #1 to be sure you land him, so be it. If that QB is a player other than Rosen, so be it...
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I don't think that there is a clear cut answer to this question....or dilemma depending on how you look at it.
When you're coming off of 1-31 or 0-16 plugging in another rookie quarterback is not a fix (beating this dead horse to death). None of the 2018 candidates have the words "franchise or can't miss" tags attached to them. I'm for continuing the team building and not wasting the #1 and 4 picks.
Face it going to 8-8 looks nearly impossible for next year with the schedule they've got ahead of them.
Time to punt (again) and play defense......figuratively speaking.
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Another interesting way to look at this draft do they try to make a super deal to get a quarterback -or- take this amazing 12 pick opportunity to team build for the future? In 2019 I think they have the standard 7 picks.
A ton of NFL Draft capital and some interesting tidbits:
- 2 picks in the Top 5
- 4 picks in the Top 35
- 5 picks in the Top 60
- 7 Picks in the Top 108 (Huge in a deep Draft where Top 100 picks are held in high esteem, Browns own a normal full Drafts of picks by pick #108)
- 4 sets of picks clustered near each other: 1 & 4, 33 & 35, 60 & 65 and 137 & 145
- 12 picks overall, though it wouldn't be a shock to see a few dealt for veterans or to move up.
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I don't think that there is a clear cut answer to this question....or dilemma depending on how you look at it.
When you're coming off of 1-31 or 0-16 plugging in another rookie quarterback is not a fix (beating this dead horse to death). None of the 2018 candidates have the words "franchise or can't miss" tags attached to them. I'm for continuing the team building and not wasting the #1 and 4 picks.
Face it going to 8-8 looks nearly impossible for next year with the schedule they've got ahead of them.
Time to punt (again) and play defense......figuratively speaking.
None of the 2018 candidates have the words "franchise or can't miss" tags attached to them.
It's early yet...
With as many as six being talked about as going in Round One, three in the Top Ten and two in the Top Five (or Three)... "franchise level" labels will be coming.
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It's early yet...
With as many as six being talked about as going in Round One, three in the Top Ten and two in the Top Five (or Three)... "franchise level" labels will be coming.
I can see the "best of the class" on two but out-in-out once in a decade or generation franchise picks maybe not.....not that one can't emerge or develop into one.
And yes still 21 days until the Super Bowl, lots of time and combines to go yet.
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It's early yet...
With as many as six being talked about as going in Round One, three in the Top Ten and two in the Top Five (or Three)... "franchise level" labels will be coming.
I can see the "best of the class" on two but out-in-out once in a decade or generation franchise picks maybe not.....not that one can't emerge or develop into one.
And yes still 21 days until the Super Bowl, lots of time and combines to go yet.
I can see the "best of the class" on two but out-in-out once in a decade or generation franchise picks maybe not.....not that one can't emerge or develop into one.
I agree that there are no obvious Decade or generational prospects... we've kinda had the one for this decade, Luck. Wholly different and higher category there in my vernacular than mere "franchise" prospects.
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They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a project. like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop, then see what you have.
With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
Good questions... problem with the premise is that Smith and Cousins are too dissimilar to place on either side of that "or" in the premise.
As has been said... IF we land Cousins, then you have a five-year starter on our roster and what you posture is a viable route. Of course the QB in training that I'd want is Benkert... but I don't see Cousins coming here.
Smith on the other hand cannot be viewed as a solution over the same time period. So if it is Smith, the far more viable option IMO, then you go after the best QB you see in this draft. If it takes the overall #1 to be sure you land him, so be it. If that QB is a player other than Rosen, so be it...
Good questions... problem with the premise is that Smith and Cousins are too dissimilar to place on either side of that "or" in the premise.
As has been said... IF we land Cousins, then you have a five-year starter on our roster and what you posture is a viable route. Of course the QB in training that I'd want is Benkert... but I don't see Cousins coming here.
Smith on the other hand cannot be viewed as a solution over the same time period. So if it is Smith, the far more viable option IMO, then you go after the best QB you see in this draft. If it takes the overall #1 to be sure you land him, so be it. If that QB is a player other than Rosen, so be it...
not five years. no nfl contract is going to be set up so you cant get out reasonably before five years. Thats simply not the nature of the nfl.
Cousins is going to get a massive deal, but the cap implications and up front money/guarantees will probably make it set up where whoever signs him can reasonably get out of it in 3. Still a huge risk, because 3 years in the nfl is a hell of a long time.
The most likely scenario is that the browns dont get either cousins or smith, that they drafr a qb #1,and that qb plays very early(likely to start the year or definately by wk 8 or so) and we bring in a lesser name vet and our 3 top qbs are #1 pick(likely rosen), lesser name vet and Kizer.
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If only Drew Brees wasn't only 6 ft tall, imagine how good he could be.
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They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a
project.
like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop,
then see what you have. With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work
for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
They get a veteran, like Smith or Cousins..and they wait til later to get a
project.
like...Tanner Lee in a later round? (like Brady went in the sixth...)
Let Kizer develop...at least as much as possible... and let the qb develop,
then see what you have. With legit questions on all qb's this year... two immediate all-pro players work
for the Browns? Anybody like that idea?
https://www.cornnation.com/2017/12/28/16826826/nebraska-football-tanner-lee-qb-nfl-draft
Cousins hell yes. Smith, Hell no.
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