Pittsburgh's Sissy Fans: (did I really say that?) :-0
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I suppose if worst comes to worst....the Steelers and Bell can always enter into a "long term" deal. (Whatever long term means to an NFL RB).
Of course, maybe, just maybe the Steelers are thinking: "We have squeezed this turkey sufficiently. We have gotten the best 5 years of his career out of him. He will be entering his 6th season in the NFL...and NFL RBs have an average career of only about 3 years. Let this arsewipe walk. We can pick up another good RB in the draft...and maybe we can make this kid James Conner into a Bell clone. As long as we have BR at the helm, our offense will move well. When LB was suspended for 4 games our offense did not miss a beat...so let him walk."
What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
BR not retiring. Not this year. He will be back. He is a liar and a drama queen...but he is not retiring. Though...he said he was coming back....so maybe he is lying about that as well. But I don't think so. He stayed healthy all year long. Thanks to his OL/OL coach. Some arsewipe on here said the Pitt OL was terrible. Yet it was BR himself who complimented them on the job they did all year long....and said that they are the one big reason he is coming back.
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What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
BR not retiring. Not this year. He will be back. He is a liar and a drama queen...but he is not retiring. Though...he said he was coming back....so maybe he is lying about that as well. But I don't think so. He stayed healthy all year long. Thanks to his OL/OL coach. Some arsewipe on here said the Pitt OL was terrible. Yet it was BR himself who complimented them on the job they did all year long....and said that they are the one big reason he is coming back.
BR not retiring. Not this year. He will be back. He is a liar and a drama queen...but he is not retiring. Though...he said he was coming back....so maybe he is lying about that as well. But I don't think so. He stayed healthy all year long. Thanks to his OL/OL coach. Some arsewipe on here said the Pitt OL was terrible. Yet it was BR himself who complimented them on the job they did all year long....and said that they are the one big reason he is coming back.
That is a big point an old(er) QB with a bad OL is grounds for leaving. Ben also said prior to the 2017 that he was "open to retirement" I personally think that he figured the Steelers had a shot at a super bowl run. An then there's one of my favorite subjects "show me the money". And yes Ben is already fabulously wealthy but.......
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ben-roethlisberger-3595/
Current Contract
Ben Roethlisberger signed a 4 year, $87,400,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, including a $31,000,000 signing bonus, $31,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $21,850,000. In 2018, Roethlisberger will earn a base salary of $12,000,000 and a roster bonus of $5,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $23,200,000 and a dead cap value of $12,400,000.
CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $87,400,000 SIGNING BONUS$31,000,000 AVERAGE SALARY$21,850,000 GTD AT SIGN:$31,000,000 TOTAL GTD:$31,000,000 FREE AGENT:2020 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2015 
32 $1,000,000 $6,200,000 $3,250,000 $6,795,000 $17,245,000 $37,795,000 $35,257,482($35,257,482) 2016
33 $17,750,000 $6,200,000 - - $23,950,000 $42,550,000 $17,750,000($53,007,482) 2017
34 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 - - $18,200,000 $30,600,000 $12,000,000($65,007,482) POTENTIAL OUT: 2018, 3 YR, $65,007,482; $12,400,000 DEAD CAP
2018
35 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 $5,000,000 - $23,200,000 $12,400,000 $17,000,000($82,007,482) 2019
36 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 $5,000,000 - $23,200,000 $6,200,000 $17,000,000($99,007,482) 2020 37 UFA Contract Notes:- $31M fully guaranteed (Signing Bonus)
- 2016-17 salaries ($29.75M) guaranteed for injury only
- Incentives: $9M (2018-19 escalators)
- 2018 Roster Bonus: $5M (due 3/18/2018)
- 2019 Roster Bonus: $5M (due the 5th league day of 2019)
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Nickers,
how do you know the Steelers were looking past the Jags? Anything can happen in football man. The Steelers got outplayed, that's what I saw. It wasn't an butt kicking, but they didn't have answers for what Jax did.
But, wait, if you are saying the reason the Steelers lost was because they let down...........then essentially doesn't that make you a Steeler fan? It does, because essentially what you are saying is you see the Steelers as a superior team who gave this game away to a lesser team. THAT is the same crying-in-one's-beer narrative that a Steeler fan espouses.
" Boo Hoo....we are the better team but we looked past Jax when we should have killed them"
You gotta make up your mind bro? Are YOU a Steelers fan? It seems you are, and that you believe your team let one get away.
LMAO.
You know I luv ya MAH NIKKAZ
The bottom line , whether or not you like them.. They clearly got beat and manhandled by the superior team.. They got "Pittsburghed" by the Jags... They got taste of they're own medicine , basically...
The bottom line , whether or not you like them.. They clearly got beat and manhandled by the superior team.. They got "Pittsburghed" by the Jags... They got taste of they're own medicine , basically...
why do you say that ? i didn't notice the jags taking cheap shots like pit does
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I suppose if worst comes to worst....the Steelers and Bell can always enter into a "long term" deal. (Whatever long term means to an NFL RB).
Of course, maybe, just maybe the Steelers are thinking: "We have squeezed this turkey sufficiently. We have gotten the best 5 years of his career out of him. He will be entering his 6th season in the NFL...and NFL RBs have an average career of only about 3 years. Let this arsewipe walk. We can pick up another good RB in the draft...and maybe we can make this kid James Conner into a Bell clone. As long as we have BR at the helm, our offense will move well. When LB was suspended for 4 games our offense did not miss a beat...so let him walk."
What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
The parties won't last long. The Steelers are a great franchise. Regardless of what Ben does, the Steelers will use the Browns for toilet paper.
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@boo-fagley said:
Bell is set to become a FA again.The tag is bad because it is a 1 year death sentence. Sure its lots of money, but an injury can prevent you from ever playing again and a shot at the big money contract. Job security too knowing that youll be around a few years.
The Steelers will be favored but times change. Players are lost for the season more and more because of the lack of practice time due to the last CBA. Losing a game like that can have lasting effects. If Haley goes then Ben is in a new offense. Crowning dey axx now would be premature.
This is a YAWNER.................. always ayushole Browns fans thinking that the Steelers are going to fall apart because of player losses. Then on game day, while the Browns are getting their livers kicked out of their ayusholes......Browns fans, looking like they just ate a fresh schidt sandwich, mouth agape, weep out...." waaa. waaaa, where did they find that guy?
The Browns will not finish ahead of the Steelers at any time in the next 10 seasons.
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@boo-fagley said:
Bell is set to become a FA again.The tag is bad because it is a 1 year death sentence. Sure its lots of money, but an injury can prevent you from ever playing again and a shot at the big money contract. Job security too knowing that youll be around a few years.
The Steelers will be favored but times change. Players are lost for the season more and more because of the lack of practice time due to the last CBA. Losing a game like that can have lasting effects. If Haley goes then Ben is in a new offense. Crowning dey axx now would be premature.
This is a YAWNER.................. always ayushole Browns fans thinking that the Steelers are going to fall apart because of player losses. Then on game day, while the Browns are getting their livers kicked out of their ayusholes......Browns fans, looking like they just ate a fresh schidt sandwich, mouth agape, weep out...." waaa. waaaa, where did they find that guy?
The Browns will not finish ahead of the Steelers at any time in the next 10 seasons.
The Browns will not finish ahead of the Steelers at any time in the next 10 seasons.
All this tough talk about Ghoolie's favorite team has him testy with us Browns fans.
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Pittsburgh is in it's last golden days. Soon it will retreat back into the depths from which it was found.
Tomlin isn't that good he's just good at being a cheap, one trick pony. When Rothlisberger is done, so is Tomlin. When Tomlin and Rothlisberger are gone, so is Brown... and down the dominos fall.
The Ravens are the same. When Flacco goes, so flies the raven. Neither defense is what it once was and the offense provided by their cheapshot coaches and one trick QBs will not last forever. Their days are also numbered.
The Bengals will forever be the Bengals. Marvis Lewis is an old Hue Jackson with better tools to work with. Still bungles the same bugles that fills the air with cringful woe.
The Browns, with their vast youth and depth. The history and the city must unite and bring back the bark! The crown is just over the horizon if we've the courage to chase it.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
The parties won't last long. The Steelers are a great franchise. Regardless of what Ben does, the Steelers will use the Browns for toilet paper.
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I'm just saying.. the out physicalled them in a huge way.. they dominated on all sides...
The Jags punched the big bad Steelers right in the mouth.
If the Pats are not careful the same will happen to them.
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What if Roethlisberger retires after a career of multiple injuries? LB's leverage will get much stronger!
What if both retire/leave? There will be parties in the AFCN for sure.
The parties won't last long. The Steelers are a great franchise. Regardless of what Ben does, the Steelers will use the Browns for toilet paper.
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BR not retiring. Not this year. He will be back. He is a liar and a drama queen...but he is not retiring. Though...he said he was coming back....so maybe he is lying about that as well. But I don't think so. He stayed healthy all year long. Thanks to his OL/OL coach. Some arsewipe on here said the Pitt OL was terrible. Yet it was BR himself who complimented them on the job they did all year long....and said that they are the one big reason he is coming back.
That is a big point an old(er) QB with a bad OL is grounds for leaving. Ben also said prior to the 2017 that he was "open to retirement" I personally think that he figured the Steelers had a shot at a super bowl run. An then there's one of my favorite subjects "show me the money". And yes Ben is already fabulously wealthy but.......
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ben-roethlisberger-3595/
Current Contract
Ben Roethlisberger signed a 4 year, $87,400,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, including a $31,000,000 signing bonus, $31,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $21,850,000. In 2018, Roethlisberger will earn a base salary of $12,000,000 and a roster bonus of $5,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $23,200,000 and a dead cap value of $12,400,000.
CONTRACT TERMS:4 yr(s) / $87,400,000 SIGNING BONUS$31,000,000 AVERAGE SALARY$21,850,000 GTD AT SIGN:$31,000,000 TOTAL GTD:$31,000,000 FREE AGENT:2020 / UFA BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2015
32 $1,000,000 $6,200,000 $3,250,000 $6,795,000 $17,245,000 $37,795,000 $35,257,482($35,257,482) 2016
33 $17,750,000 $6,200,000 - - $23,950,000 $42,550,000 $17,750,000($53,007,482) 2017
34 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 - - $18,200,000 $30,600,000 $12,000,000($65,007,482) POTENTIAL OUT: 2018, 3 YR, $65,007,482; $12,400,000 DEAD CAP
2018
35 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 $5,000,000 - $23,200,000 $12,400,000 $17,000,000($82,007,482) 2019
36 $12,000,000 $6,200,000 $5,000,000 - $23,200,000 $6,200,000 $17,000,000($99,007,482) 2020 37 UFA Contract Notes:- $31M fully guaranteed (Signing Bonus)
- 2016-17 salaries ($29.75M) guaranteed for injury only
- Incentives: $9M (2018-19 escalators)
- 2018 Roster Bonus: $5M (due 3/18/2018)
- 2019 Roster Bonus: $5M (due the 5th league day of 2019)
That is a big point an old(er) QB with a bad OL is grounds for leaving. Ben also said prior to the 2017 that he was "open to retirement" I personally think that he figured the Steelers had a shot at a super bowl run. An then there's one of my favorite subjects "show me the money". And yes Ben is already fabulously wealthy but.......
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ben-roethlisberger-3595/
Looks like Ben has about $23 million reasons to play another year....
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That is a big point an old(er) QB with a bad OL is grounds for leaving. Ben also said prior to the 2017 that he was "open to retirement" I personally think that he figured the Steelers had a shot at a super bowl run. An then there's one of my favorite subjects "show me the money". And yes Ben is already fabulously wealthy but.......
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ben-roethlisberger-3595/
Looks like Ben has about $23 million reasons to play another year....
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Pittsburgh is in it's last golden days. Soon it will retreat back into the depths from which it was found.
Tomlin isn't that good he's just good at being a cheap, one trick pony. When Rothlisberger is done, so is Tomlin. When Tomlin and Rothlisberger are gone, so is Brown... and down the dominos fall.
The Ravens are the same. When Flacco goes, so flies the raven. Neither defense is what it once was and the offense provided by their cheapshot coaches and one trick QBs will not last forever. Their days are also numbered.
The Bengals will forever be the Bengals. Marvis Lewis is an old Hue Jackson with better tools to work with. Still bungles the same bugles that fills the air with cringful woe.
The Browns, with their vast youth and depth. The history and the city must unite and bring back the bark! The crown is just over the horizon if we've the courage to chase it.
<<Pittsburgh is in it's last golden days. Soon it will retreat back into the depths from which it was found.>>
So, you recognize the Steelers as one of the very best. Good.
<<Tomlin isn't that good he's just good at being a cheap, one trick pony. When Rothlisberger is done, so is Tomlin. When Tomlin and Rothlisberger are gone, so is Brown... and down the dominos fall.>>
If Tomlin is not that good, why are the Steelers going to be worse when he leaves? Antonio Brown? He is going to be done when Tomlin is gone? WTF dude, stop eating lead paint chips.
<<The Ravens are the same. When Flacco goes, so flies the raven. Neither defense is what it once was and the offense provided by their cheapshot coaches and one trick QBs will not last forever. Their days are also numbered.>>
If Ben and Flacco are 1 trick ponies....ahhhhh......why are they still better than the Browns?
The Bengals will forever be the Bengals. Marvis Lewis is an old Hue Jackson with better tools to work with. Still bungles the same bugles that fills the air with cringful woe.
<<The Browns, with their vast youth and depth.>>
Fresh Schidt, piled up high................depth as in an outhouse.
<<The history and the city must unite and bring back the bark! >>
How can history do anything? History is an accounting of the past. It is not a living entity. Speaking of history........THe Browns have an 18 year history of losing football.....The Drive, Fumble and Red Right are part of history............. SO is trading Warfield................You want that to unite with what?
Also..............the "BARK" is not a part of the Browns legacy. The Dawgs is a modern moniker that has absolutley nothing to do with the Browns. The birth of the Dawg Pound historically is the marker of the Browns falling from greatness.
Did you ever see the TV Show Green Acres? You sound like Oliver Wendell Douglas espousing a lot of meaningless bullschidt while the fifes play in the background
The crown is just over the horizon if we've the courage to chase it.
Are you out of your fukcking mind? 0 -16? Just over the Horizon. Dude, WTF are you smoking? And WTF are you talking about if we have the courage? WTF does courage have to do with anything?
FDR said "we have nothing to fear but fear itself"......You are like FDR. Except instead of having a powerful position and the nationwide audience, you are wearing a replica helmet and addressing your ballsack.
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