Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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I like Barkley, actually. He might be one of the most versatile RBs to come into the league in a while. I also get the impression that he's a quality person too.
But there's no way I'd pick him with the #1 or #4 overall pick. RBs that high are horrible investments.
The Browns can fill the RB position later in the draft, and with quality.
Barkley gives us an identity. That is worth the #1 and the #4. IMO
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QB - RB
Air Attack - Ground n Pound
What is our identity going to be? Hue stated many times that we want to be a running team, makes sense in the AFCN, control the clock and protect the ball, often times in adverse weather.
I have a video to show you guys of Barkley in multiple weather conditions-
Passing the ball gives way to running the ball... running the ball WELL leads to better play action fakes that buy the WRs a step in the secondary. That's all we need, just a step but with Barkley were going to get yards on the secondary. When I'm evaluating a player, I don't look at the stats and use that to base my score. It's a piece but college is playing a "different game" than the NFL is playing. So many factors go into the stats- how many other players had amazing stats and couldn't make it in the pros? There is so much more that goes on with what's unseen than is going on in what IS seen. Sometimes though, if you watch close enough, you can get glimpses of what inside a player. Often times what's inside the player and how he will translate to the NFL.
To the question on if Barkley just loses steam in the second half or if the teams gameplan is better... Here's Barkley's COMPLETE SEASON COMPILATION, enjoy.
QB - RB
Air Attack - Ground n Pound
What is our identity going to be? Hue stated many times that we want to be a running team, makes sense in the AFCN, control the clock and protect the ball, often times in adverse weather.
I have a video to show you guys of Barkley in multiple weather conditions-
Yeah that’s cool, but can he knock a clay pigeon out of the air?
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I’m not against the Browns drafting Barkley, but if they take him #1 overall, they’d better be damn sure that their top QB will be there at 4
IDGAF if we draft Peyton Manning at 4. If this FO drops a #1 overall on a RB, especially Barkley I'm going to be Manziel- like pissed.
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There are 5 or 6 Quarterbacks that people think are first round talent.
There is only 1 RB that is as good if not BETTER than a majority of STARTING RBs in the NFL.
Saquon is going to make an IMMEDIATE IMPACT. You get so many advantages adding him BEFORE you take the QB at 4. What ever QB you take gets a STAR RB and Josh Gordon. That is a HUGE ADVANTAGE~ What don't you guys get?
WE NEED A QB YES - I KNOW!!!! BUT YOU ALSO NEED BARKLEY. THERE ARE 5 QBS.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Look. Do me a favor and watch the video. Listen to the crowd... The energy that those big runs and highlight moves bring are irreplaceable. Momentum. And Barkley doesn't fumble, he's as sure a thing as there is ever going to be in the draft. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HIT. DO NOT GAMBLE.
Take Barkley #1 and ensure that whoever starts will have help. Crowell and Johnson together are just okay. It's actually a hinders a young QB because they are so different and the things they bring to the table are not consistent. It's actually telling when you have a receiving back like Duke in the game. He can run between the tackles a little but he's not going to hold up as the feature back. Move Johnson out to the slot and you might have something.
Barkley RB
Gordon WR1
Coleman WR2
Johnson Slot
Njoku/DeValve TE
~ Now whoever is at QB has a TEAM AROUND THEM to help them succeed. With the guys above, if healthy and active for more than 12 games next year- we can win the division.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
There are 5 or 6 Quarterbacks that people think are first round talent.
There is only 1 RB that is as good if not BETTER than a majority of STARTING RBs in the NFL.
Saquon is going to make an IMMEDIATE IMPACT. You get so many advantages adding him BEFORE you take the QB at 4. What ever QB you take gets a STAR RB and Josh Gordon. That is a HUGE ADVANTAGE~ What don't you guys get?
WE NEED A QB YES - I KNOW!!!! BUT YOU ALSO NEED BARKLEY. THERE ARE 5 QBS.
That is a HUE ADVANTAGE~ What don't you guys get?
last i looked, Hue still coaches this team..whats a RB in Hues game plan? Look at Dorsey's draft history. get use to hearing Fitzpatrick vs Derwin James at #4.. Dorsey has not drafted a RB any higher than 3rd round..Crow may have a lot to do with both of Dorsey's decisions..put your madden controller down..it's mid January
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That is a HUE ADVANTAGE~ What don't you guys get?
last i looked, Hue still coaches this team..whats a RB in Hues game plan? Look at Dorsey's draft history. get use to hearing Fitzpatrick vs Derwin James at #4.. Dorsey has not drafted a RB any higher than 3rd round..Crow may have a lot to do with both of Dorsey's decisions..put your madden controller down..it's mid January
last i looked, Hue still coaches this team..whats a RB in Hues game plan? Look at Dorsey's draft history. get use to hearing Fitzpatrick vs Derwin James at #4.. Dorsey has not drafted a RB any higher than 3rd round..Crow may have a lot to do with both of Dorsey's decisions..put your madden controller down..it's mid January
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Look. Do me a favor and watch the video. Listen to the crowd... The energy that those big runs and highlight moves bring are irreplaceable. Momentum. And Barkley doesn't fumble, he's as sure a thing as there is ever going to be in the draft. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HIT. DO NOT GAMBLE.
Take Barkley #1 and ensure that whoever starts will have help. Crowell and Johnson together are just okay. It's actually a hinders a young QB because they are so different and the things they bring to the table are not consistent. It's actually telling when you have a receiving back like Duke in the game. He can run between the tackles a little but he's not going to hold up as the feature back. Move Johnson out to the slot and you might have something.
Barkley RB
Gordon WR1
Coleman WR2
Johnson Slot
Njoku/DeValve TE
~ Now whoever is at QB has a TEAM AROUND THEM to help them succeed. With the guys above, if healthy and active for more than 12 games next year- we can win the division.
Look. Do me a favor and watch the video. Listen to the crowd... The energy that those big runs and highlight moves bring are irreplaceable. Momentum. And Barkley doesn't fumble, he's as sure a thing as there is ever going to be in the draft. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HIT. DO NOT GAMBLE.
Take Barkley #1 and ensure that whoever starts will have help. Crowell and Johnson together are just okay. It's actually a hinders a young QB because they are so different and the things they bring to the table are not consistent. It's actually telling when you have a receiving back like Duke in the game. He can run between the tackles a little but he's not going to hold up as the feature back. Move Johnson out to the slot and you might have something.
Barkley RB
Gordon WR1
Coleman WR2
Johnson Slot
Njoku/DeValve TE
~ Now whoever is at QB has a TEAM AROUND THEM to help them succeed. With the guys above, if healthy and active for more than 12 games next year- we can win the division.
Good thing you aren't running a team. Crowd noise is now a determining factor on what a player will be. Got it.
And then saying you get so much taking a RB BEFORE your QB??? What benefit is that? If you want Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Mayfield and Barkley, what does it matter where you take them? Ahh, Barkley will somehow be better because he was the #1 pick as opposed to #4.
Maybe the Browns can trade #4 to Washington for Colt McCoy, use #1 on Barkley, give the 1st 2nd rounder to whoever owns Trent Richardson rights, and sign Josh Gordon to a 10 year deal
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Look. Do me a favor and watch the video. Listen to the crowd... The energy that those big runs and highlight moves bring are irreplaceable. Momentum. And Barkley doesn't fumble, he's as sure a thing as there is ever going to be in the draft. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HIT. DO NOT GAMBLE.
Take Barkley #1 and ensure that whoever starts will have help. Crowell and Johnson together are just okay. It's actually a hinders a young QB because they are so different and the things they bring to the table are not consistent. It's actually telling when you have a receiving back like Duke in the game. He can run between the tackles a little but he's not going to hold up as the feature back. Move Johnson out to the slot and you might have something.
Barkley RB
Gordon WR1
Coleman WR2
Johnson Slot
Njoku/DeValve TE
~ Now whoever is at QB has a TEAM AROUND THEM to help them succeed. With the guys above, if healthy and active for more than 12 games next year- we can win the division.
Good thing you aren't running a team. Crowd noise is now a determining factor on what a player will be. Got it.
And then saying you get so much taking a RB BEFORE your QB??? What benefit is that? If you want Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Mayfield and Barkley, what does it matter where you take them? Ahh, Barkley will somehow be better because he was the #1 pick as opposed to #4.
Maybe the Browns can trade #4 to Washington for Colt McCoy, use #1 on Barkley, give the 1st 2nd rounder to whoever owns Trent Richardson rights, and sign Josh Gordon to a 10 year deal
Good thing you aren't running a team. Crowd noise is now a determining factor on what a player will be. Got it.
And then saying you get so much taking a RB BEFORE your QB??? What benefit is that? If you want Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Mayfield and Barkley, what does it matter where you take them? Ahh, Barkley will somehow be better because he was the #1 pick as opposed to #4.
Maybe the Browns can trade #4 to Washington for Colt McCoy, use #1 on Barkley, give the 1st 2nd rounder to whoever owns Trent Richardson rights, and sign Josh Gordon to a 10 year deal
Please tell me your are trolling and really aren't dumb enough to NOT get the point...
Here, let me break it down for you. Mo-men-tum. This is a term you'll often hear when a team begins to build some. A big run causes the crowd to get hyped. Crowd noise and energy is a HUGE x-factor during games. If you can break off several of these runs the defense gets on it's toes to quite the stands. Then your able to take the top off of the defense and it gets the defense on it's heels... then you run again and the crowd and momentum continue to grow.
However, when your RB runs into the asses of his OL and then falls on the ground. Can't make a defender miss or drops a shuffle pass for a fumble and a turnover in the redzone... oh, same old Browns, the crowds cheers turn to jeers and the other team smells blood. They drive down the field and score, silencing the crowd, taking the momentum and they run away with the game... the crowd leaves early, the other teams offense can call checks, protections and audibles without any difficulty- this leads to an unsurmountable lead and another loss.
But, if that play is shuffled, Barkley makes a guy miss and he goes all Airmail Special Delivery for six- The crowd goes crazy and the our Defense begins to sense victory.
...good on the crowd noise part?
I'll give you some time to think about it before moving on.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
QB - RB
Air Attack - Ground n Pound
What is our identity going to be? Hue stated many times that we want to be a running team, makes sense in the AFCN, control the clock and protect the ball, often times in adverse weather.
I have a video to show you guys of Barkley in multiple weather conditions-
Passing the ball gives way to running the ball... running the ball WELL leads to better play action fakes that buy the WRs a step in the secondary. That's all we need, just a step but with Barkley were going to get yards on the secondary. When I'm evaluating a player, I don't look at the stats and use that to base my score. It's a piece but college is playing a "different game" than the NFL is playing. So many factors go into the stats- how many other players had amazing stats and couldn't make it in the pros? There is so much more that goes on with what's unseen than is going on in what IS seen. Sometimes though, if you watch close enough, you can get glimpses of what inside a player. Often times what's inside the player and how he will translate to the NFL.
To the question on if Barkley just loses steam in the second half or if the teams gameplan is better... Here's Barkley's COMPLETE SEASON COMPILATION, enjoy.
QB - RB
Air Attack - Ground n Pound
What is our identity going to be? Hue stated many times that we want to be a running team, makes sense in the AFCN, control the clock and protect the ball, often times in adverse weather.
I have a video to show you guys of Barkley in multiple weather conditions-
Passing the ball gives way to running the ball... running the ball WELL leads to better play action fakes that buy the WRs a step in the secondary. That's all we need, just a step but with Barkley were going to get yards on the secondary. When I'm evaluating a player, I don't look at the stats and use that to base my score. It's a piece but college is playing a "different game" than the NFL is playing. So many factors go into the stats- how many other players had amazing stats and couldn't make it in the pros? There is so much more that goes on with what's unseen than is going on in what IS seen. Sometimes though, if you watch close enough, you can get glimpses of what inside a player. Often times what's inside the player and how he will translate to the NFL.
To the question on if Barkley just loses steam in the second half or if the teams gameplan is better... Here's Barkley's COMPLETE SEASON COMPILATION, enjoy.
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Cool sports science video. But that all means nothing if we can't compare it to how other HBs do in that position
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Still waiting for youto refute my many points on him. I've posted them multiple times and I don't think I've ever seen you respond.
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Leonard Fournette ran for like 1 ypc against Alabama.
Zeke ran for 200+ total.
Better surrounding cast or not, I think Barkley would be much closer to the former than the latter.
Leonard Fournette ran for like 1 ypc against Alabama.
Zeke ran for 200+ total.
Better surrounding cast or not, I think Barkley would be much closer to the former than the latter.
So, playing in the superbowl and not being suspended for domestic violence... I'll take that.
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Still waiting for youto refute my many points on him. I've posted them multiple times and I don't think I've ever seen you respond.
Still waiting for youto refute my many points on him. I've posted them multiple times and I don't think I've ever seen you respond.
Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Still waiting for youto refute my many points on him. I've posted them multiple times and I don't think I've ever seen you respond.
Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
What are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same thingsWhat are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same things
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Drafting Barkley and Quenton Nelson would guarantee Joe Thomas comes back.
Put Nelson next to Joe Thomas and Barkley runs for 1500 yards easy. Nelson is a freak.
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Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
What are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same thingsWhat are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same things
What are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same thingsWhat are you missing oh just watch the Wizard of Oz and see what the scarecrow tin man and lions are missing same things
Oh no my man, you've got me all wrong, I've got those things you mention-
Brains- I'm a poet, an artist, a writer, musician and an inventor pursuing a patent...
Heart- I'm a father to 3 children, my wife is blind and I volunteer as head coach AFTER working a full time job. The team I coach... just won the championship. I told the judge to waive all the child support my daughter's mother owed me for the last thirteen years. I saved a kitten from a storm drain after the fire department decided she was a lost cause.
Courage- I'm not afraid to go out on a limb to backup my convictions. I've took the blame for others when I could have stood down. I've saved a young girl from being raped at knifepoint in an apartment complex laundry room, I've dove through the window of a vehicle to commandeer it from a drunk driver.
But whatever, not trying to boast- sometimes you have to stand up for yourself. So yeah, I'm a beast- I will be rich one day and I will buy the Browns and lead them to a championship. Barkley is the best player available at #1 and if the Browns are serious about fixing this thing- it's Barkley or Bust.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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