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  • Zombo said:

    Alo, do you remember how this guy was a mid-first round draft pick when he only started 10 games in college?

    Did he have injuries? Work-out wonder that rose up the charts after combine?

    Here's a scouting report from the '03 draft season that has a lot of good info:

    OT George Foster

    (6-5 3/8, 338, 5.25) Georgia

    Notes: Redshirt in 1998. Top backup in ’99 (one start) and 2000. Had his right ankle scoped in August of ’01 but came back to start nine of 12 games. Dislocated his right wrist in a car accident in early August ’02 and had pins placed in right hand. Came back to play later in the season with big cast over his right hand and wrist, making him a one-armed player until the the cast was removed at the very end of the season. Looked out of shape when he returned to the lineup and at the Senior Bowl.

    Positives: King-sized offensive lineman with a giant wingspan who improves every year. Foster plays with a wide base and can play either left or right tackle. Athletic for his size with good body control and balance when he uses proper technique. Has good, quick feet and can shuffle his feet and slide. Very strong hand punch, although he wasn’t able to punch or lock out most of last year due to injury. Can get a lot better. Can play and has played both tackle slots. Moves well and is one of the most athletic guys in the country at the position.

    Negatives: Missed a good part of his senior year with injury, and then he was a third swing tackle when he returned. Limited exposure in ’02. Still very raw and inexperienced. Lacks consistency and technique. Can bend but rarely bends his knees and gets low. Will often play way too tall. May be a tad stiff. Does not have great lower-body explosion. Is an inconsistent player who has lapses. Not a self-starter.

    Summary: A gamble-on-greatness prospect with tremendous upside, but someone who never put it together in college and must get in shape to be effective at the next level.

  • Barring injury, Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Tucker, Womack, and St. Clair all seem to have roster spots locked down. That leaves two spots for Fraley, Hadnot, and Foster.

    I agree with the lock downs. I do think all three of the others could make the team.

    Going with 8 O-ilneman is a bare minimum if you have the versatility. I am not sure we have that and 9 players is the number I have settled on that will round out the O-line.

    You really think 8 is the number??

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen
    Barring injury, Thomas, Steinbach, Mack, Tucker, Womack, and St. Clair all seem to have roster spots locked down. That leaves two spots for Fraley, Hadnot, and Foster.

    I agree with the lock downs. I do think all three of the others could make the team.

    Going with 8 O-ilneman is a bare minimum if you have the versatility. I am not sure we have that and 9 players is the number I have settled on that will round out the O-line.

    You really think 8 is the number??

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree with the lock downs. I do think all three of the others could make the team.

    Going with 8 O-ilneman is a bare minimum if you have the versatility. I am not sure we have that and 9 players is the number I have settled on that will round out the O-line.

    You really think 8 is the number??

    I kinda like our versatility right now. Tucker and St. Clair can play RG and RT. Womack likely starts at RG, but he could easily flip over to LG, as he did during the middle of the Arizona game last year. Fraley's got enough left to start a game or two at center, as well as provide insurance at guard.

    Just with those first seven guys, you could construct the following depth chart:

    LT: Thomas

    LG: Steinbach, Womack, Fraley

    😄 Mack, Fraley

    RG: Womack, Tucker, St. Clair

    RT: Tucker, St. Clair

    Then you add Hadnot (all three interior line spots) or Foster (guard/tackle) to the bottom of the depth chart.

    From what I can tell, Mangini's never kept more than eight o-linemen. We might keep nine if Tucker or Womack's durability issues flare up during camp, but I don't think Mangini's planning on keeping nine.

  • Has Fraley played guard before??

    I understand he is a body, but not all that sure he would be any good at the position.

    You may be right and we go with 8, though at least from this chair, 9 seems more like the number I would like......but, it all depends on who we plan to cut and keep elsewhere.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • @inspecta said:

    If you can play center you can play guard. It's easier than center for obvious reasons and your still working as an interior linemen.

    So he has never played it before. 😉

    I might agree with your rationale, but it doesn't always work out that way. I really don't think Fraley is physical enough to ever be a serious guard candidate.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • @shepwrite said:

    Seems like every center plays guard at some point. Fraley will be quality depth at C and G.

    Hadnot is also a backup center. I think they keep 9 just to have Fraley as a mentor and insurance at center. It would take a disaster of injuries to get him at guard.

  • Before Savage traded for him, Fraley was working as a guard on the Eagles' second team o-line. He could provide injury insurance at OG, though - as Ytown noted - he'd be very low on the depth chart.

  • ? Guest

    Before Savage traded for him, Fraley was working as a guard on the Eagles' second team o-line. He could provide injury insurance at OG, though - as Ytown noted - he'd be very low on the depth chart.

    Aloysius said:

    Before Savage traded for him, Fraley was working as a guard on the Eagles' second team o-line. He could provide injury insurance at OG, though - as Ytown noted - he'd be very low on the depth chart.

    He could be just as effective in that role as someone like Lennie Friedman was. He is not going to maul anybody but he's also not to cause breakdowns and be ineffective overall. He's plenty smart from playing center and would be able to work with guys on either side of him.

    He's the kind of fill in depth you want that won't lose you games, but you don't want him starting a bunch of games there.

    I also think Foster is strictly camp insurance. No way does he beat out Hadnot. Rex is a pretty solid guy who can dabble at center and he's also on a bit of a mission this year.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • @inspecta said:

    If you can play center you can play guard. It's easier than center for obvious reasons and your still working as an interior linemen.

    With that logic, every shortstop can play 2nd base.

    Peralta's stick would look very nice at 2nd, o wait, he can't play second base even though it's easier than SS.

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    @inspecta said:

    If you can play center you can play guard. It's easier than center for obvious reasons and your still working as an interior linemen.

    With that logic, every shortstop can play 2nd base.

    Peralta's stick would look very nice at 2nd, o wait, he can't play second base even though it's easier than SS.

    @reno said:

    With that logic, every shortstop can play 2nd base.

    Peralta's stick would look very nice at 2nd, o wait, he can't play second base even though it's easier than SS.

    I've never read a bigger case of apples to oranges.

    Your statement doesn't make much sense.

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"

  • Here's some footage of our new offensive lineman:

    He does some good things in the run game, but he's pretty awful in pass pro. Also, he doesn't look as powerful as one might expect a 6'5", 338 pound lineman to be.

    I think he'll need to show something at guard to make the team.

  • ? Guest

    Here's some footage of our new offensive lineman:

    He does some good things in the run game, but he's pretty awful in pass pro. Also, he doesn't look as powerful as one might expect a 6'5", 338 pound lineman to be.

    I think he'll need to show something at guard to make the team.

    Aloysius said:

    I think he'll need to show something at guard to make the team.

    I was thinking the same thing, and at 6'6" 335, he might make a helluva good mauler.

    Unfortunately, what we need is a RT and I fear Mangini will think this turnstile could be a viable solution.

  • Well, it certainly doesn't hurt to bring these types in. Worse comes to worst and you cut him. Or, he serves as great insurance for someone like Poke Chop going down in camp.

    Is a pig's ass pork?
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