Camp Barkley #1 Overall
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Browns have now interviewed 2 RB coaches..TCU's Curtis Luper & now LSU's Tommie Robinson (has NFL background with Zona) Tommie Robinson has coached both USC's RB Ronald Jones last season & RB Derrius Guice this past season at LSU. Tommy should surely be familiar with Kerryon Johnson, Auburn & Sony & Chubb at GA. All projected as round 2-3 RB's..no one is hired at RB coach at this point..but am leaning towards Robinson if Mack & Byner are still shut down
Browns have now interviewed 2 RB coaches..TCU's Curtis Luper & now LSU's Tommie Robinson (has NFL background with Zona) Tommie Robinson has coached both USC's RB Ronald Jones last season & RB Derrius Guice this past season at LSU. Tommy should surely be familiar with Kerryon Johnson, Auburn & Sony & Chubb at GA. All projected as round 2-3 RB's..no one is hired at RB coach at this point..but am leaning towards Robinson if Mack & Byner are still shut down
Ernest Byner was on the radio saying he would not mind becoming the RB coach of the Browns. And why not? He has been a successful RB coach elsewhere in the NFL. The why not is because Hue probably does not want anyone who could do a better job than he....that he wants...yes, a bunch of coffee fetchers.
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Sometimes it's not the QBs fault- when it's the QBs job to get it to an offensive piece that has to win a one on one matchup and then pick up yac. We see this a ton within Hue's system. He likes to hit the ball on the perimeter using that parallel-lateral pass. Duke can make some players miss, he pretty good, but, he's not on the same level that Barkley is. Duke Johnson and I shared a lot of the same times and distance on both the long jump and the 100 meter dash- I was actually a little bit better. I know how to ball-out and I've done it, so when I watch players I can judge them based on what I know is capable of actually being done.
Barkley is really good. He's going to have a hard road in the NFL- It's not going to be a walk in the park. They are going to try and hurt you, knock you out, out the game and out the league. I think that he can handle it and it's going to actually make him better, the adrenaline is going to put him on another level.
I just don't get what you don't get. We need that guy, who is going to make a play when we need it.
- Here take it from Byner himself!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
The Truth - The One
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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Hey bud, just a heads up- You are in the Barkley #1 Overall thread, all day, everyday. Get used to it, get on board... or get on with your bad self.
Did you listen to Byner?
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Yo Mods, can we get a pin on this?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
The Truth - The One
With Valentine's Day just 3 weeks away, Hallmark and Cupid better get their acts together if they want to keep up with Poe!
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Sometimes it's not the QBs fault- when it's the QBs job to get it to an offensive piece that has to win a one on one matchup and then pick up yac. We see this a ton within Hue's system. He likes to hit the ball on the perimeter using that parallel-lateral pass. Duke can make some players miss, he pretty good, but, he's not on the same level that Barkley is. Duke Johnson and I shared a lot of the same times and distance on both the long jump and the 100 meter dash- I was actually a little bit better. I know how to ball-out and I've done it, so when I watch players I can judge them based on what I know is capable of actually being done.
Barkley is really good. He's going to have a hard road in the NFL- It's not going to be a walk in the park. They are going to try and hurt you, knock you out, out the game and out the league. I think that he can handle it and it's going to actually make him better, the adrenaline is going to put him on another level.
I just don't get what you don't get. We need that guy, who is going to make a play when we need it.
- Here take it from Byner himself!
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Absolutely not!!! If it makes you feel any better, Jeremiah says Barkley is the best running back he's seen in a long time...
Dude! Isn't that Earnest Byner video so freaking awesome?!!! Gip was just talking about Byner wanting to be the Browns RB coach, huh- wonder why?
It's destiny man... I can feel it!
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Still waiting for youto refute my many points on him. I've posted them multiple times and I don't think I've ever seen you respond.
Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
Sorry man, haven't seen you post anything other than Fournette ran for 1 ypc against Alabama and Zeke ran for a bazillion... We're talking about 3 different teams(LSU, Ohio State and Alabama) and two different players(Zeke and Fournette) that have nothing to do with Barkley... what am I missing here?
That was a new argument. I've posted the old one several times. This guy has no down-to-down ability to get tough chunks that keep the chains moving. ALL his stats come from big plays and receiving.
1. 14 carries, 88 yards against Pittsburgh in a game that was close until the 4th quarter. With offensive weapons all around him. Doesn't really scream #1 overall to me.
2. 10 for 47 against Georgia State, including a 33 yard carry. So without that he had 9 carries for 14 yards. Under 2 YPC.
3. Under 3 YPC against INDIANA.
4. Take out his long against Northwestern and he had 15 carries for 22 yards.
5. Do the same with Michigan and he had 14 for 39.
6. 21 carries for 44 yards against Ohio State....and that was with a long of 36. So 20 carries for 8 yards. 20 CARRIES FOR 8 YARDS.
7. Take out the long against Michigan State: 13 carries, 27 yards. Even with the long, a mere 4.5 YPC.
8. 2.5 YPC against Rutgers.
9. Under 5 YPC against Maryland, which was 93rd in rush D.
10. Without his long against Washington, 17 carries, 45 yards.
11. He was 70th in YPC in the FBS last year. 70th. 6.43 YPC against unranked teams which dropped to 4.6 against ranked teams. That's NOT good in college football.
Go look at Zeke, especially in 2014 (we know the whole team was hungover throughout 2015 which was NOT the case in Happy Valley where they thought they had a shot at a 'ship). You can NOT make his stats look anywhere near this bad regardless of what you do.
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Even if the Haslam told the FO that they’ll all be fired if they don’t draft a RB in the first round: use 1 on the QB, trade down from 4 and pick up Guice, and extra picks. I think that’s a far more effective use of assets that would immediately upgrade the Browns offense. Guice and Duke would be one hell of a RBBC.
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I see Guice and Johnson as very similar players, Guice a better runner but Johnson the better receiver.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
You can't just take out the chunk plays war. That is not how it works. That is like saying, "Let's evaluate Kizer and his potential but let's take out his interceptions" It's all a piece to the puzzle. You can gameplan and focus on one player but still make an impact. Pass blocking, route running, drawing a defense, the factors are too numerous to list. You have to look at the whole picture bro. Take Barkley #1 and you've got an impact player that is going to challenge the defense immediately. He going to make the OL better, the QB better, the WRs better, you can't replace that with 4 okay runningbacks.
I'm answering you're "questions" by telling you to watch the games for yourself. Watch the way the player moves, how he reacts, his knowledge of the game, reading defenses, effecting defenses even without getting touches... and doing this without complaining about touches or carries or stats.
My question to you is this- Did his team win those games? What do last years stats and the year before tell you when looked at as a "body of work"?
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Hey Dawgpound, what about this-
Saquon Barkley #1 and Baker Mayfield #4?
That could be electric.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
A good first take on Mayfield.
...and I'm only bringing this up because I know a lot of you guys think you need to burn the #1 on a QB. You can EASILY take Barkley 1st without give NY/Colts a chance at him, then turn around and take the QB not named Frozen Rosen or Ronald Darnold.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Maybe you don't like Mayfield #4, there are a bunch of QBs that are going to be there. There are QBs in FA, literally there's damn near QBs falling out of the cupboards...
If we take Barkley #1 that takes the option away from NY and Colts from either taking him or trading to another team that wants to move up to get him, jumping us at 4. Them getting a ton for the deal and still having a chance at the QB they wanted. Maybe they want Mayfield and they can trade to teams 5-9 for them to come up and get Barkley before us and they still end up getting Mayfield plus picks.
Get your boy Saquon, get the RB and then force NY to burn their pick. See if they'll take Mayfield #2. If they do then you are sure to get either Darnold or Rosen at 4. But that doesn't work the other way around. If you don't take Barkley #1 we're not getting him. You can't just say pass on a talent like that when you are on the clock and you didn't win A GAME last year.
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Leveon Bell, Kareem hunt, Melvin Gordon, etc rand their 40s in the 4.5-4.6 range. Speed isn't an indicator for success at the running back position.
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Player Yr School Pos Proj Day Baker Mayfield rSr Oklahoma QB 1 Chase Litton Jr Marshall QB 2 Josh Allen rJr Wyoming QB 1 Kurt Benkert rSr Virginia QB 3 Lamar Jackson Jr Louisville QB 2 Luke Falk rSr Washington State QB 2 Mason Rudolph Sr Oklahoma State QB 1 Matt Linehan rSr Idaho QB 3 Riley Ferguson Sr Memphis QB 3 Sam Darnold rSo Southern California QB 1 Say what? Say the Browns take Barkley #1 Overall...Say the Giants take Frozen Rosen.So when the Colts are up, here are all the QBs still on the board. Is your guy at QB still here?Are the Colts going to take one of these guys and sit him behind Luck, #3 Overall?I didn't think so either.
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