Todd Haley
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oh, hell no.
You are a friend of mine, but this closed mindedness HAS to stop!
We are trying to build a WINNER here!!!
Mike
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You are a friend of mine, but this closed mindedness HAS to stop!
We are trying to build a WINNER here!!!
Mike
You're a friend of mine, too, but you don't stop and think. It's a great draft for rb's, I know you hate to read, but come on, seriously:
"loser loser dope, rap and booze loser. that's bell"
Ed Bouchette reported recently in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette the All-Pro running back had missed all but five minutes of the Steelers' Saturday walk-through before their playoff loss to Jacksonville the following day. (Maybe he was busy dreaming up his social media message in which he totally discounted the Jacksonville Jaguars and looked ahead to the New England matchup, which I can't find in any tv listings this weekend.)
Then on Sunday, he showed up later than Mike Tomlin's scheduled time to the locker room for game time. This would seem like an aberration, if Bell didn't have a rap sheet of unprofessionalism and immaturity during his Steeler career. Also, one can't ignore his hip-hop career in which he has incessantly rapped about his contract displeasure. For old time sake, let's review some of Bell's low-lights.
- His arrest for DUI and marijuana possession following driving to the airport before a preseason game in Philadelphia with LeGarrette Blount in 2014, this ultimately resulted in a two-game suspension to start the 2015 season.
- His suspension for missing drug tests in December 2016 resulted in a three-game suspension to begin the 2016 season.
- His hip-hop songs highlighting his contract displeasure.
- His turning down a reported $12 million a year contract offer tendered by the team, four million more than the next-highest paid RB (LeSean McCoy).
- His slow start following his failing to report to 2017 training camp until days before the season opener.
- Voicing displeasure in the media regarding play calling after a mere 15 carries in the Week 5 loss to Jacksonville.
First, Bell told ESPN that he would sit out next season or even retire if the team doesn’t meet his contract demands and puts its franchise tag on him for a second consecutive year. Nice timing, right? Really bad look. Then, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Ed Bouchette, Bell blew off most of the Steelers’ walk-through practice last Saturday. Talk about disrespecting Mike Tomlin and his teammates. Finally, Bell tweeted the night before the Jacksonville game that he was really looking forward to Round 2 against the New England Patriots in the AFC championship. For all of it, he should have been penalized 15 yards for unnecessary stupidity.
He proved he has matured in one major way by not getting suspended for the third year in a row because of a marijuana issue and proved he can start and finish a season healthy for the first time.
I also have some advice for Bell: Grow up and stop acting so infantile. Keep playing football, even if it means lowering yourself to make a mere $14.5 million. And one more thing … stop tweeting. Please.
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We have talked about character for years. Haley has had a terrific career around the NFL. He's noted as a very strong, aggressive, creative coach. I think that's a GREAT thing that he would come here.
I haven't said one word about not wanting Haley to come here, and this is page two. Now that someone wants bell to come with him, I said "hell, no".
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Definitely get both.
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"During Haley's 6 year tenure as the Steelers' OC, they averaged averaged the third-most yards per play in the league. In the past four seasons under Haley, the Steelers were second in NFL scoring behind only the Patriots." This kind of resume is exactly what this team needs to win.
Which is exactly why he won't get the job.
Do any of you think Hue, whose hold on the HC job is tenuous at best, would hire someone who's clearly more talented at coaching an offense than he his, and who's had previous HC experience? Why would Hue want the Browns to hire a potential successor to him if the Browns start the year 0-4 or 0-6, etc?
Hue wants a "yes" man, whom he can claim credit for if the Browns do well, and who can be thrown under the bus to protect his job if they suck again. Todd Haley is not that man.
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Yeah, hard pass on Bell. Dude is a crybaby bitch, poor teammate, delusional primadonna and just an all around festering pile of garbage. He has a lot of miles on him, and is a distraction that a young team doesn’t need.
Bell is incredibly talented, but there are plenty of talented backs in the draft who are a lot cheaper, younger, smarter and easier to work with.
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I'd be fine with it. Hue Jackson is an offensive minded coach and if he wants his quarterback to have the ability to change plays, then it will be so. Kizer did this multiple times during the season, with mixed results (remember the sneak with no timeouts? Yeah...)
The difficult part of evaluating someone like Haley is knowing how much of the success was due to having such incredible talent, or if the talent thrived because of him. Something tells me Haley knows his stuff and we'd be lucky to have him.
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"During Haley's 6 year tenure as the Steelers' OC, they averaged averaged the third-most yards per play in the league. In the past four seasons under Haley, the Steelers were second in NFL scoring behind only the Patriots." This kind of resume is exactly what this team needs to win.
Which is exactly why he won't get the job.
Do any of you think Hue, whose hold on the HC job is tenuous at best, would hire someone who's clearly more talented at coaching an offense than he his, and who's had previous HC experience? Why would Hue want the Browns to hire a potential successor to him if the Browns start the year 0-4 or 0-6, etc?
Hue wants a "yes" man, whom he can claim credit for if the Browns do well, and who can be thrown under the bus to protect his job if they suck again. Todd Haley is not that man.
"During Haley's 6 year tenure as the Steelers' OC, they averaged averaged the third-most yards per play in the league. In the past four seasons under Haley, the Steelers were second in NFL scoring behind only the Patriots." This kind of resume is exactly what this team needs to win.
Which is exactly why he won't get the job.
Do any of you think Hue, whose hold on the HC job is tenuous at best, would hire someone who's clearly more talented at coaching an offense than he his, and who's had previous HC experience? Why would Hue want the Browns to hire a potential successor to him if the Browns start the year 0-4 or 0-6, etc?
Hue wants a "yes" man, whom he can claim credit for if the Browns do well, and who can be thrown under the bus to protect his job if they suck again. Todd Haley is not that man.
I’m afraid I expect this to be spot on.
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"During Haley's 6 year tenure as the Steelers' OC, they averaged averaged the third-most yards per play in the league. In the past four seasons under Haley, the Steelers were second in NFL scoring behind only the Patriots." This kind of resume is exactly what this team needs to win.
Which is exactly why he won't get the job.
Do any of you think Hue, whose hold on the HC job is tenuous at best, would hire someone who's clearly more talented at coaching an offense than he his, and who's had previous HC experience? Why would Hue want the Browns to hire a potential successor to him if the Browns start the year 0-4 or 0-6, etc?
Hue wants a "yes" man, whom he can claim credit for if the Browns do well, and who can be thrown under the bus to protect his job if they suck again. Todd Haley is not that man.
I’m afraid I expect this to be spot on.
I’m afraid I expect this to be spot on.
same could be said about malarkey and McAdoo
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Well if Hue doesn't hire someone to turn the offense around, then he's basically committing head coach suicide by saying that his own ego is more important than the success of the Browns and would be fired anyway.
Well if Hue doesn't hire someone to turn the offense around, then he's basically committing head coach suicide by saying that his own ego is more important than the success of the Browns and would be fired anyway.
This. I agree with jbluhm too, but if Todd Haley is good, then we can be successful. And at this point, success is the only thing that will keep Hue’s job. He’s out of excuses
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FWIW, this is from a guy I know (Steelers fan) who has connects in the league
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FWIW, this is from a guy I know (Steelers fan) who has connects in the league
FWIW, this is from a guy I know (Steelers fan) who has connects in the league
Anecdotal. Also, guy has coached some good offenses. Most of the guys who are perfectionist coaches are seen as being dicks.
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We should definitely not try to sign the best RB in the league... a player we can absolutely afford... away from an interdivisional rival.
You just can't make this sh!t up.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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