Deeply Religious People are Weird
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out of context. but thanks for trying.
I literally took the information from links that you posted and did a critical breakdown of them, step by step, and pointed out the fallacies and incongruities I found there, and laid out my counterarguments rather plainly. They are not out of context. But, by all means tell me EXACTLY what/how I got "out of context" about what you posted - specifically, the two links that I broke down, not your usual reflect and redirect horsesh.it.
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What did you expect?
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Except for some irrelevant perception what's the difference?
WSS
We don't accept cults
We don't accept cults
We don't but not for any particular reason. There is nothing in the definition of a cult that makes it good or bad.
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
Except for some irrelevant perception what's the difference?
WSS
I believe you've answered your own question, sir.
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1) Exclusive. They may say, "We're the only ones with the truth; everyone else is wrong; and if you leave our group your salvation is in danger.
Your basic bitch is fundamentally ignorant. There is no Christian basis upon which the local church is the only group that is going to get salvation. WACO was a localized group. Jonestown sp? was a localized group. The Word of God is not localized, nor does scripture say that any one person is a super special idol in the localized group.
2) Secretive. Certain teachings are not available to outsiders or they're presented only to certain members, sometimes after taking vows of confidentiality.
Again, you insult the point. Jesus instructed a man who he healed of leprosy, to not tell anyone, lest he end up having to leave the area before his work was done. You could look this up yourself, but it's too easy to try to be a dumb butt about it. This part has to do with secret handshakes, secret initiations, secret codes, etc that only the group is allowed to know. That is NOT what the cherry picked line refers to.
https://www.gotquestions.org/do-not-tell.html
Answer: After healing a man of leprosy (Mark 1:41-42), "Jesus sent him away at once with a strong warning: 'See that you don't tell this to anyone...'" (Mark 1:43-44). To our way of thinking, it would seem that Jesus would want everyone to know about the miracle. But Jesus knew that publicity over such miracles might hinder His mission and divert public attention from His message. Mark records that this is exactly what happened. In this man’s excitement over his being miraculously healed, he disobeyed. As a result, Christ had to move His ministry away from the city and into the desert regions (Mark 1:45) “As a result, Jesus could no longer enter a town openly but stayed outside in lonely places. Yet the people still came to Him from everywhere.”
In addition, Christ, though he had cleansed the leper, still required him to be obedient to the law of the land — to go at once to the priest, and not to make delay by stopping to converse about his being healed. It was also possible that, if he did not go at once, evil-minded men would go before him and prejudice the priest and prevent his declaring the healing to be true because it was done by Jesus. It was of further importance that the priest should pronounce it to be a genuine cure, that there might be no prejudice among the Jews against its being a real miracle.
Finally, Jesus did not want people focusing on the miracles He performed, but rather the message He proclaimed and the death He was going to die. The same is true today. God would rather that we be focused on the healing miracle of salvation through Jesus Christ instead of focusing on other healings and/or miracles.3) Authoritarian. A human leader expects total loyalty and unquestioned obedience.
seriously? In Christianity, there is never any human leader that demands total loyalty and unquestioned obedience.
The problem with your knee jerk points are, OUT OF CONTEXT. In Jonestown you could be murdered, imprisoned if you tried to leave. There is no free will in a cult. In Christianity, everything is free will. You can decide or not, leave or stay, sin or not sin, change churches change religions, change states, quit any church any time.
Completely out of context.
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) Exclusive. They may say, "We're the only ones with the truth; everyone else is wrong; and if you leave our group your salvation is in danger.
Yes, okay. So what? Why would you waste your time going through the motions of being a member of any particular religion if you didn't believe it to be true?
And Christianity as far as I know there is one way to Salvation.
I have a good Jewish friend who said that he couldn't vote for a particular candidate because of that candidates religion. That religion said that only people who accepted Christ would go to heaven and the rest would go to hell.
I asked him if he believed in hell and he said no which begs the question "then who cares?"
WSS
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) Exclusive. They may say, "We're the only ones with the truth; everyone else is wrong; and if you leave our group your salvation is in danger.
Yes, okay. So what? Why would you waste your time going through the motions of being a member of any particular religion if you didn't believe it to be true?
And Christianity as far as I know there is one way to Salvation.
I have a good Jewish friend who said that he couldn't vote for a particular candidate because of that candidates religion. That religion said that only people who accepted Christ would go to heaven and the rest would go to hell.
I asked him if he believed in hell and he said no which begs the question "then who cares?"
WSS
) Exclusive. They may say, "We're the only ones with the truth; everyone else is wrong; and if you leave our group your salvation is in danger.
Yes, okay. So what? Why would you waste your time going through the motions of being a member of any particular religion if you didn't believe it to be true?
And Christianity as far as I know there is one way to Salvation.
I have a good Jewish friend who said that he couldn't vote for a particular candidate because of that candidates religion. That religion said that only people who accepted Christ would go to heaven and the rest would go to hell.
I asked him if he believed in hell and he said no which begs the question "then who cares?"
WSS
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1594422/jewish/Do-Jews-Believe-in-Hell.htm
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For the record he s really not practicing and I was asking him for his own opinion not to speak for all Jews.
WSS
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Ironically it was Ken Blackwell versus Ted Strickland and Strickland is a Methodist Minister who also believes the only way to go to heaven is, well you know...
WSS
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I would lump all religions and cults together. Having blind faith in anything doesn’t jive with me. Other people are free to do so if it makes them happy. I also don’t let friends borrow money on blind faith that they will pay me back.
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I would lump all religions and cults together. Having blind faith in anything doesn’t jive with me. Other people are free to do so if it makes them happy. I also don’t let friends borrow money on blind faith that they will pay me back.
I would lump all religions and cults together. Having blind faith in anything doesn’t jive with me. Other people are free to do so if it makes them happy. I also don’t let friends borrow money on blind faith that they will pay me back.
That's understood, probably a bad idea to lend money to a friend that you can't afford to lose. The money or the friend.
WSS
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We don't accept cults
We don't but not for any particular reason. There is nothing in the definition of a cult that makes it good or bad.
WSS
We don't but not for any particular reason. There is nothing in the definition of a cult that makes it good or bad.
WSS
That's the difference between religion and a cult. Cults aren't accepted
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We don't but not for any particular reason. There is nothing in the definition of a cult that makes it good or bad.
WSS
That's the difference between religion and a cult. Cults aren't accepted
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Why?
WSS
They're different
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Woody had to exert himself there.
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Why?
WSS
They're different
They're different
In what way and what difference does it make to you? Seriously?
I think we are pretty familiar with your opinion of religion in the first place so why does one offend you and not the other if that's the case?
WSS
www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons -
oh, this oughta be good.
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They're different
In what way and what difference does it make to you? Seriously?
I think we are pretty familiar with your opinion of religion in the first place so why does one offend you and not the other if that's the case?
WSS
In what way and what difference does it make to you? Seriously?
I think we are pretty familiar with your opinion of religion in the first place so why does one offend you and not the other if that's the case?
WSS
Neither offend me
Cults are different than the norm, so they're a cult. Once a cult is accepted in a certain area, they're a religion.
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