Todd Haley
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Welcome to the merry go round Mr. Haley.
....listening to a Pittsburgh beat reporter talking to The Fan today, he made it seem like a lot of players and some coaches didn't like Haley at all.
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....listening to a Pittsburgh beat reporter talking to The Fan today, he made it seem like a lot of players and some coaches didn't like Haley at all.
Well, everyone apparently loves Hue and we all know how the first 32 games of his Browns' tenure have ended..... Give me some piss and vinegar to go along with Hue's sunshine and lollipops any day.
What's the worst that can happen.... 0-32?
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....listening to a Pittsburgh beat reporter talking to The Fan today, he made it seem like a lot of players and some coaches didn't like Haley at all.
Well, everyone apparently loves Hue and we all know how the first 32 games of his Browns' tenure have ended..... Give me some piss and vinegar to go along with Hue's sunshine and lollipops any day.
What's the worst that can happen.... 0-32?
Well, everyone apparently loves Hue and we all know how the first 32 games of his Browns' tenure have ended..... Give me some piss and vinegar to go along with Hue's sunshine and lollipops any day.
What's the worst that can happen.... 0-32?
thinking Haley is just what this team needs
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Build a winner by hiring the champions flunkees.....
HERE WE GO HOLMGREN HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO ROMEO. HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO SEWAGE JERE WE GO
Unbelievable. Not only do.these axzzholes make the same stupid mistakes over and again, but fans think this is actually a rebirth.
Build a winner by hiring the champions flunkees.....
HERE WE GO HOLMGREN HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO ROMEO. HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO SEWAGE JERE WE GO
Unbelievable. Not only do.these axzzholes make the same stupid mistakes over and again, but fans think this is actually a rebirth.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
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Build a winner by hiring the champions flunkees.....
HERE WE GO HOLMGREN HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO ROMEO. HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO SEWAGE JERE WE GO
Unbelievable. Not only do.these axzzholes make the same stupid mistakes over and again, but fans think this is actually a rebirth.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
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Build a winner by hiring the champions flunkees.....
HERE WE GO HOLMGREN HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO ROMEO. HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO SEWAGE JERE WE GO
Unbelievable. Not only do.these axzzholes make the same stupid mistakes over and again, but fans think this is actually a rebirth.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
I don't know if you can even say he had a bad game that day. Sure there were some strange playcalls but they still scored 42 points. When was the last time a Browns team scored 42?
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Build a winner by hiring the champions flunkees.....
HERE WE GO HOLMGREN HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO ROMEO. HERE WE GO
HERE WE GO SEWAGE JERE WE GO
Unbelievable. Not only do.these axzzholes make the same stupid mistakes over and again, but fans think this is actually a rebirth.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
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Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
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Come on man, if we'd have hired Haley last year you'd have jizzed. They had a bad game and now he's a terrible OC? He has consistently had top tier offenses and will get the weapons to do so here.
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
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Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
You missed the memo, he was banned, but was allowed back on because he has friends in high places- namely the guy who owns this board....
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Rich 4 and I have been calling for the Steelers to get rid of this turkey for awhile now. H E B L O W S. Ben scored the points, not Haley. HALEY IS GARBAGE
If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
Dutch,
Why were you not banned from English class? You started your pot addressing me.............and then you changed the point of view and addressed the group. Your grammar, like your understanding of football, is poor. Please edit your post and try again.
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If you are a Browns fan why would you care about the Steelers OC, and why would you want him fired if he's bad at his job?
Seriously, why is this troll not banned yet?
You missed the memo, he was banned, but was allowed back on because he has friends in high places- namely the guy who owns this board....
You missed the memo, he was banned, but was allowed back on because he has friends in high places- namely the guy who owns this board....
So let me get this right Pimento dik.................................I should be banned because during the season I make observations about the Steelers? Now, this board is FULL of members analytical bullshidt talking about what other teams should do, about Wentz, Lynch, Goff,......in fact Poosy boy, YOU spend more time analyzing and trashing the Bengals than ANYONE INCLUDING ME........... does about the Steelers.
Look you big, dumb, Foghorn Leghorn fuktard, there is no violation in my making assessments about what the Steelers are doing, or that I have not liked their OC. I am on this board making comments about plenty of other team executives, as is EVERYONE else.
So here comes some transgendered, homosexual Dutch diuchebag who is mad because I dare to once agian point out that the Browns are making bad decisions in the FO, and your slobbering asss chimes in with your stupid "rah rah rah,,,NOBODY IS BETER THAN THE BROWNS" bullschidt.
No matter how many times we go through this Larry, just like a whore who goes back to have the placenta beat out of her snatch by her pimp, you too, go back to INSISTING....that FINALLY............ FINALLY................. WE are on the right path.
Let me bittch slap you again, for everyone here to see.
If, 4 weeks ago, I would have commended Haley for delivering yet ANOTHER winning season for the Steelers, you and this Dutch faggot would be the first ones crying foul, asking me the SAME QUESTION........."Why do you care about the Steelers OC"
But NOW............... 4 weeks later, you are tapping Dutch and Flugel on the shoulder, wanting to take YOUR turn at tasting the semen of the SAME EXACT GUY Haley.
Larry, you are a fukcking child. Whether Haley is a Steeler or a Brown, he is the same guy. If YOU and this **Mask** Dutch come in here extolling the virtues of Haley........doesn't that make YOU......Steeler fans? I mean, after all, if you like him, that means YOU LIKE what he did for the Steelers. So Larry, why the fukck is a Browns fan paying attention to the career of a Steelers OC? 4 weeks ago you would have BLASTED anyone for complimenting him, but now, you love him. Dude, you didn't just fall in love with his bulge today..........if you know about him, you have been admiring him all along.
Your problem is that once again the Browns hire a better teams throw away, and before you get a chance to homo dance and sing IN HALEY WE TRUST.........here I come and slap you with that Harsh reality that the 2018 Browns are again going to challenge for 0 - 16.
YOu have a GM who lets the owner name the HC, and now that HC is picking an OC.
STFU already dude. You aren't a football fan, you are a Browns homo. I am a Browns fan. Nowhere in the TOS does it say I have to blast everything that the Steelers have done, do or will ever do, while sperming my pants over every idiotic thing (Garrett, Coleman) the Browns do. The Steelers won because of Ben, Bell, Browns and the offensive players. Haley had nothing to do with jack schidt. The stories out of Pittsburgh is that Haley was not well liked; that he was a cancer.
SOOOOOOO................ Dorkey, Hue, DePo, Williams and Haley.....................COFFEE Fetchers. Policy, Clark, Sewage, Crennell................. and now...... THIS. More bullschidt that will fail.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
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You missed the memo, he was banned, but was allowed back on because he has friends in high places- namely the guy who owns this board....
So let me get this right Pimento dik.................................I should be banned because during the season I make observations about the Steelers? Now, this board is FULL of members analytical bullshidt talking about what other teams should do, about Wentz, Lynch, Goff,......in fact Poosy boy, YOU spend more time analyzing and trashing the Bengals than ANYONE INCLUDING ME........... does about the Steelers.
Look you big, dumb, Foghorn Leghorn fuktard, there is no violation in my making assessments about what the Steelers are doing, or that I have not liked their OC. I am on this board making comments about plenty of other team executives, as is EVERYONE else.
So here comes some transgendered, homosexual Dutch diuchebag who is mad because I dare to once agian point out that the Browns are making bad decisions in the FO, and your slobbering asss chimes in with your stupid "rah rah rah,,,NOBODY IS BETER THAN THE BROWNS" bullschidt.
No matter how many times we go through this Larry, just like a whore who goes back to have the placenta beat out of her snatch by her pimp, you too, go back to INSISTING....that FINALLY............ FINALLY................. WE are on the right path.
Let me bittch slap you again, for everyone here to see.
If, 4 weeks ago, I would have commended Haley for delivering yet ANOTHER winning season for the Steelers, you and this Dutch faggot would be the first ones crying foul, asking me the SAME QUESTION........."Why do you care about the Steelers OC"
But NOW............... 4 weeks later, you are tapping Dutch and Flugel on the shoulder, wanting to take YOUR turn at tasting the semen of the SAME EXACT GUY Haley.
Larry, you are a fukcking child. Whether Haley is a Steeler or a Brown, he is the same guy. If YOU and this **Mask** Dutch come in here extolling the virtues of Haley........doesn't that make YOU......Steeler fans? I mean, after all, if you like him, that means YOU LIKE what he did for the Steelers. So Larry, why the fukck is a Browns fan paying attention to the career of a Steelers OC? 4 weeks ago you would have BLASTED anyone for complimenting him, but now, you love him. Dude, you didn't just fall in love with his bulge today..........if you know about him, you have been admiring him all along.
Your problem is that once again the Browns hire a better teams throw away, and before you get a chance to homo dance and sing IN HALEY WE TRUST.........here I come and slap you with that Harsh reality that the 2018 Browns are again going to challenge for 0 - 16.
YOu have a GM who lets the owner name the HC, and now that HC is picking an OC.
STFU already dude. You aren't a football fan, you are a Browns homo. I am a Browns fan. Nowhere in the TOS does it say I have to blast everything that the Steelers have done, do or will ever do, while sperming my pants over every idiotic thing (Garrett, Coleman) the Browns do. The Steelers won because of Ben, Bell, Browns and the offensive players. Haley had nothing to do with jack schidt. The stories out of Pittsburgh is that Haley was not well liked; that he was a cancer.
SOOOOOOO................ Dorkey, Hue, DePo, Williams and Haley.....................COFFEE Fetchers. Policy, Clark, Sewage, Crennell................. and now...... THIS. More bullschidt that will fail.
So let me get this right Pimento dik.................................I should be banned because during the season I make observations about the Steelers? Now, this board is FULL of members analytical bullshidt talking about what other teams should do, about Wentz, Lynch, Goff,......in fact Poosy boy, YOU spend more time analyzing and trashing the Bengals than ANYONE INCLUDING ME........... does about the Steelers.
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Never said Haley was a great hire- you'd rather blast me when I point out you have no "better option" than Haley you can pull out of your a$$. I'll repeat it, since you want to take the low road:
So you got any better suggestions for an Offensive coordinator oh wise one? Didn't think so. He's out there somewhere in the mysterious vapor of Ghooliedom. Crickets chirping so far. And don't give me some Zen $hit "this is the kind of guy I'm looking for". Do your homework for a change, and give me a name- you won't- because you can't.
As far as (Haley) getting fired by a good team and us getting a reject- well some of our Steeler pals think the wrong guy got fired. Your hero Art Schmodel in his wisdom fired not just one but two of the greatest coaches of all time.
PS Smart a$$, I analyzed the Bengals enough to tell you flat out you were full of $hit thinking the Bengals were going to go 11-5 in 2017.
Furthermore you know damn well why you were kicked off, and let back on.
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Well, the defense got better with Williams. Lets see if the same happens with Haley. Its not possible that it can get worse. At least he will have an axe to grind vs Pittsburgh twice a year.
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It wasn't so long ago that we had names like Sashi Brown, DiFilipo, Mike Pettine, and that bozo as our defensive coordinator. Now we have John Dorsey, Hue Jackson, Gregg Williams, and Todd Haley. We have a widely regarded front office and management staff. We somehow got the hottest coaching candidate 2 years ago, and while his results have been less than inspiring, I for one am growing excited at the infrastructure we're putting in place. And here's the thing: We're built for the long haul.
I know what you're thinking, and that's, "We're an 0-16 team, 1-31 over 2 years, and you're saying that WE'RE built for the long haul?!" Why yes...yes we are. Many people say it takes 3 years to get a plan to come together and 3 years to fully evaluate a draft. Well, welcome to year 3. All of our young players are going to become veterans with experience, we're a team with a ton of early round picks, and we're going to add a bunch more this season. We're also FINALLY entering the season with the same coaches and systems in place on both sides of the ball. Will Todd Haley bring his own wrinkles? Of course. Will it be exactly the same? No. But a lot of the core principles, terminology, and formations will remain intact, and that's key for the development of our young players.
People can laugh all they want, but I'm actually starting to see something here. Hue Jackson took a lot of heat for not hiring an OC for 2 years, and maybe rightfully so, but would we have gotten an OC as highly regarded as Todd Haley? Maybe there's some truth to what Hue said in that he didn't believe it was fair to give such a task to a coordinator because he knew it'd be extremely rough. Now that we're building our team the right way (in my twisted mind), we sought out a proven coordinator, and it's now time to expeditiously use our our cap space to add veteran players to our growing roster of youth.
What I think some haven't thought about is the "domino effect" we could see happening Cleveland. What do I mean? Say we figure out a way to get Alex Smith at QB. We have Smith playing under Todd Haley, hopefully Josh Gordon, Duke Johnson, and other attractive weapons. Perhaps that tells other veterans that it's time to come to Cleveland. The checkbook is open, there's real coaches in Cleveland (finally), we have our QB, and the roster is beginning to fill out with high draft picks and some quality veteran free agents. We finally have a GM who understands football, a fan base excited and begging for a good team, and an attacking defensive coordinator who is going to have some ammunition to play with.
In fully aware that we were 0-16 last year. I understand that we were historically awful, and I'm not trying to blast sunshine up everyone butt because it's the offseason and the time when Browns fans are the happiest. For the first time in basically forever I look at the structure of our franchise and I actually LIKE what I see. Do we still need a freaking QB? Lord yes. Are we guaranteed to get Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins? Nope. But I have to believe we have a shot at one of them, and even if we don't get them, we're still getting the highest rated QB on our board, AND we don't have to wait an entire round to pick again. We have to wait 2 picks. That's it. We can actually draft our QB and then still draft probably our next highest rated pick (most likely because one of picks 2 or 3 will be a QB, possibly both). There's a chance Saquon Barkley is drafted at 2 or 3, so we might miss out on him, but I have a VERY difficult time believing we'll use both of our 1st rounders on offense, so I'm still thinking we're taking Minkah Fitzpatrick at 4...something I'm rooting for.
Todd Haley could be the second-to-last piece of our puzzle, and the final piece will be our QB. It's been so long, TOO long, and I have to believe we'll get it right. Bring in Alex Smith, draft Minkah Fitzpatrick, Darrius Guice, and keep Josh Gordon clean by the grace of God, and we've got a real team....finally, hopefully, mercifully. I'm not generally a super optimistic guy, so don't think I'm positive for the sake of being positive. Even Joe Thomas feels the same way, and while he's not the "be-all, end-all" of football knowledge, it's still nice to hear similar remarks from a player who has done more than just "stick around". We've got a real chance at building a team from the ground up, and while I don't believe the turn around will be instantaneous, I do think we could have a near-historic win differential next year, if only because our insane zero wins last year. As we get closer to March, I expect the Alex Smith rumors to get crazy. Make the deal, bring him to Cleveland, and let him work with Todd Haley to deliver us the goods.
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I agree that so far this off season they are making all the right staffing/FO moves and hopefully from that comes the experienced bridge QB and the right rookie QB with time to learn. As long as someone else is handling the O on game day Hue can take advantage of his best qualities in the weekly game planning with all aspects of the game while boosting the confidence of all the youngsters as they learn to be pros. Sure we all were hoping to see more success on the field, but any team missing crucial pieces both on the field and off is just going to struggle. But at least we were still in a number of those games until the weaknesses finally took us down.
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Hue has 16 games to get it right and more likely 10 if the Browns dont get better yesterday. Haley was a HC and so was Williams. Maybe Hue was hamstrung by Sashi not getting the QB that he wanted. Sticking with Kizer was good and bad. The good part is that now you know that youve got to go out and draft a stud. Preferably, IMO land a FA Vet that can win now and school the rookie. The bad part was watching Kizer not get better. He might be ruined. He sure has a tougher row to hoe in 2018 to get back on the field.
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