Rosen
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I know it's five months old. You think 21 years of being an
arrogant, self-centered jackwagon disappears in five months? He spent 21 years getting there. whatever his age is,
that is. You keep smarting off about Allen, so what goes around, comes around, tourcindarella.
If I'm right, the Browns...will.....not......draft.....rosen. There is enough controversy in the past to draft a jackwagon.
So, there ya go.
I know it's five months old. You think 21 years of being an arrogant, self-centered jackwagon disappears in five months? He spent 21 years getting there. whatever his age is, that is. You keep smarting off about Allen, so what goes around, comes around, tourcindarella.
If I'm right, the Browns...will.....not......draft.....rosen. There is enough controversy in the past to draft a jackwagon. So, there ya go.
Five months? The Dilfer turnaround? Dilfer's original observations were made when Rosen was 17.
As for Allen... I think I've made three comments about him... two because I could and the last, yesterday, because it was what I saw. Whereas you, Princess, have beat your anti-Rosen, hearsay drum to death.
More correctly you will be right if Rosen becomes a pariah to the team that does draft him. I know you are desperate to be "right" about something, but let's not cheapen that low potential moment..
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Rosen is gonna be great but we will pass on him for the wrong josh who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat..
The report on the radio this morning on Golic and Wingo was that Josh Allen had an exceptionally poor showing in his practices at the Senior Bowl. Even with no pressure and no coverage he was missing his targets right and left.
I am just giving the report....Cal can cry about it all he wants. If a similar report had been made about Rosen or anyone else I would have reported that.
Also...we know that Mason Rudolph hurt is foot and cannot play in the Senior Bowl.....so an opportunity goes by the way side for him to prove himself.
http://www.lindyssports.com/nfl/column/oklahoma-state-qb-rudolph-to-miss-senior-bowl/464861/
The report on the radio this morning on Golic and Wingo was that Josh Allen had an exceptionally poor showing in his practices at the Senior Bowl. Even with no pressure and no coverage he was missing his targets right and left.
I watched the full practices for both squads...
Overall Allen's practice wasn't pretty. More problematic than "left and right" was high. Left and right can be attributed to receiver familiarity. "High" can't be.
Mike Mayock reported coming back from a commercial break, "You just missed Allen throwing a ten-yard cross ten-yards over the head of the receiver." An exaggeration to be sure, but a little later in a 7-on-7 drill he rocketed one five feet over a leaping WR about 20-yards downfield. Mayock's line of the day comment on this one was something along the lines of, "It may have been incomplete, but it was incomplete in a hurry."
Allen does have a gun. If he hits the barn, then he's going to put a hole in it.
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NFL execs unanimously pick Sam Darnold over Josh Rosen
NFL executive just made the call on the Draft's toughest decision.
NFL execs unanimously pick Sam Darnold over Josh Rosen
NFL executive just made the call on the Draft's toughest decision.
Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
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if that carried over to the end of the senior bowl, I'll agree it's a bigger problem maybe... practices only started yesterday, fer cryin out loud. It's called practice. Like Charlie Casserly said - you don't look for accuracy in the beginning of practices - there's new receivers, new system, new timing - you look for physical ability at this point. However it all plays out through the draft, it's going to be fascinating.
if that carried over to the end of the senior bowl, I'll agree it's a bigger problem maybe... practices only started yesterday, fer cryin out loud. It's called practice. Like Charlie Casserly said - you don't look for accuracy in the beginning of practices - there's new receivers, new system, new timing - you look for physical ability at this point. However it all plays out through the draft, it's going to be fascinating.
OK, I'll give Allen that minor mulligan. You're starting to grab at straws Cal.
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NFL execs unanimously pick Sam Darnold over Josh Rosen
NFL executive just made the call on the Draft's toughest decision.
Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
I believe he is now in the anyone but Rosen camp because he doesn't like him. I'm firmly in the anyone but Allen camp because Allen is already on the team. He's Deshone Kizer....why do we need another one of him?
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NFL execs unanimously pick Sam Darnold over Josh Rosen
NFL executive just made the call on the Draft's toughest decision.
Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
Subject to change Tour- this is how I have the "field" ranked now.
1) Darnold
2 Mayfield (OK, he does look like a midget standing next to Allen- glad he measured 6'+ a hair)
3 Rosen (injury concerns)
4 Rudolph
5 Allen
6 Jackson
7 Benkert
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The report on the radio this morning on Golic and Wingo was that Josh Allen had an exceptionally poor showing in his practices at the Senior Bowl. Even with no pressure and no coverage he was missing his targets right and left.
I watched the full practices for both squads...
Overall Allen's practice wasn't pretty. More problematic than "left and right" was high. Left and right can be attributed to receiver familiarity. "High" can't be.
Mike Mayock reported coming back from a commercial break, "You just missed Allen throwing a ten-yard cross ten-yards over the head of the receiver." An exaggeration to be sure, but a little later in a 7-on-7 drill he rocketed one five feet over a leaping WR about 20-yards downfield. Mayock's line of the day comment on this one was something along the lines of, "It may have been incomplete, but it was incomplete in a hurry."
Allen does have a gun. If he hits the barn, then he's going to put a hole in it.
I watched the full practices for both squads...
Overall Allen's practice wasn't pretty. More problematic than "left and right" was high. Left and right can be attributed to receiver familiarity. "High" can't be.
Mike Mayock reported coming back from a commercial break, "You just missed Allen throwing a ten-yard cross ten-yards over the head of the receiver." An exaggeration to be sure, but a little later in a 7-on-7 drill he rocketed one five feet over a leaping WR about 20-yards downfield. Mayock's line of the day comment on this one was something along the lines of, "It may have been incomplete, but it was incomplete in a hurry."
Allen does have a gun. If he hits the barn, then he's going to put a hole in it.
I just hope the Browns scouts are down there taking notes. Do you know who from the Browns is in attendance at the Senior Bowl?
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if that carried over to the end of the senior bowl, I'll agree it's a bigger problem maybe... practices only started yesterday, fer cryin out loud. It's called practice. Like Charlie Casserly said - you don't look for accuracy in the beginning of practices - there's new receivers, new system, new timing - you look for physical ability at this point. However it all plays out through the draft, it's going to be fascinating.
OK, I'll give Allen that minor mulligan. You're starting to grab at straws Cal.
OK, I'll give Allen that minor mulligan. You're starting to grab at straws Cal.
Not intentionally. What else is there to say? The problem with rosen is who he is as a person.Lacks social skills, leadership, intangibles, athleticism, selfish, arrogant, divisive - and he does not want to play for the Browns - he wants the easy street team that has all the talent. He SUCKS and he's been sucking as a human being for most of his spoiled life. I'm just not impressed. I don't care about "terrific pocket passer" when he alienates half a city, half his teammates, gets in fights in the lockeroom, and gives the finger to his own fans when they boo him.
Or, you can look for a real qb. That's all there is to it.
On my list of qb's. .... maybe Allen doesn't do well in the senior bowl - that would be very telling - more a project to warrant a high pick - and the Browns will trade down if they don't want to pick Darnold, either, and get a project later. If that is what they decide, I'm good with that.
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OK, I'll give Allen that minor mulligan. You're starting to grab at straws Cal.
Not intentionally. What else is there to say? The problem with rosen is who he is as a person.Lacks social skills, leadership, intangibles, athleticism, selfish, arrogant, divisive - and he does not want to play for the Browns - he wants the easy street team that has all the talent. He SUCKS and he's been sucking as a human being for most of his spoiled life. I'm just not impressed. I don't care about "terrific pocket passer" when he alienates half a city, half his teammates, gets in fights in the lockeroom, and gives the finger to his own fans when they boo him.
Or, you can look for a real qb. That's all there is to it.
On my list of qb's. .... maybe Allen doesn't do well in the senior bowl - that would be very telling - more a project to warrant a high pick - and the Browns will trade down if they don't want to pick Darnold, either, and get a project later. If that is what they decide, I'm good with that.
Not intentionally. What else is there to say? The problem with rosen is who he is as a person.Lacks social skills, leadership, intangibles, athleticism, selfish, arrogant, divisive - and he does not want to play for the Browns - he wants the easy street team that has all the talent. He SUCKS and he's been sucking as a human being for most of his spoiled life. I'm just not impressed. I don't care about "terrific pocket passer" when he alienates half a city, half his teammates, gets in fights in the lockeroom, and gives the finger to his own fans when they boo him.
Or, you can look for a real qb. That's all there is to it.
On my list of qb's. .... maybe Allen doesn't do well in the senior bowl - that would be very telling - more a project to warrant a high pick - and the Browns will trade down if they don't want to pick Darnold, either, and get a project later. If that is what they decide, I'm good with that.
You will be good with whomever they take...because you have no choice otherwise...unless you want to turn into Glommie and then just glom on to the flavor team of the time.
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Not intentionally. What else is there to say? The problem with rosen is who he is as a person.Lacks social skills, leadership, intangibles, athleticism, selfish, arrogant, divisive - and he does not want to play for the Browns - he wants the easy street team that has all the talent. He SUCKS and he's been sucking as a human being for most of his spoiled life. I'm just not impressed. I don't care about "terrific pocket passer" when he alienates half a city, half his teammates, gets in fights in the lockeroom, and gives the finger to his own fans when they boo him.
Or, you can look for a real qb. That's all there is to it.
On my list of qb's. .... maybe Allen doesn't do well in the senior bowl - that would be very telling - more a project to warrant a high pick - and the Browns will trade down if they don't want to pick Darnold, either, and get a project later. If that is what they decide, I'm good with that.
You will be good with whomever they take...because you have no choice otherwise...unless you want to turn into Glommie and then just glom on to the flavor team of the time.
You will be good with whomever they take...because you have no choice otherwise...unless you want to turn into Glommie and then just glom on to the flavor team of the time.
Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
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You will be good with whomever they take...because you have no choice otherwise...unless you want to turn into Glommie and then just glom on to the flavor team of the time.
Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
LOL... fair enough.
Same deal for me if it's Allen...
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You will be good with whomever they take...because you have no choice otherwise...unless you want to turn into Glommie and then just glom on to the flavor team of the time.
Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
And no one will have cared about what your opinion was of him now, will they? (hell...no one NOW cares what your opinion is of him...fair to say?)
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Oh, hell no. You all know I'm far more stubborn than that. Why, if I'm wrong and they pick..."snicker" ....rosen, why, I won't bitch or complain one time. Just that if he ever does surprise and do anything good... I won't admit it, quietly.
LOL... fair enough.
Same deal for me if it's Allen...
LOL... fair enough.
Same deal for me if it's Allen...
And I don't give a crapola if it is either of them. I just want a QB that can win. Its just that the reports about Allen's quarterbacking skills are particularly bad. If the same were true about Rosen....it would be the same deal for him.
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
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Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
Subject to change Tour- this is how I have the "field" ranked now.
1) Darnold
2 Mayfield (OK, he does look like a midget standing next to Allen- glad he measured 6'+ a hair)
3 Rosen (injury concerns)
4 Rudolph
5 Allen
6 Jackson
7 Benkert
Subject to change Tour- this is how I have the "field" ranked now.
1) Darnold
2 Mayfield (OK, he does look like a midget standing next to Allen- glad he measured 6'+ a hair)
3 Rosen (injury concerns)
4 Rudolph
5 Allen
6 Jackson
7 Benkert
Can't remember Who Da Fuq argued with me there that Baker would check in around 6'1-6'2 without cleats and helmet....
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Well if all 32 think Darnold is better...
Oh wait...
It was 5...
Where did they say Allen ranked?
Or are you simply taking "the field" now, Princess?
Subject to change Tour- this is how I have the "field" ranked now.
1) Darnold
2 Mayfield (OK, he does look like a midget standing next to Allen- glad he measured 6'+ a hair)
3 Rosen (injury concerns)
4 Rudolph
5 Allen
6 Jackson
7 Benkert
Subject to change Tour-
7 Benkert
Watch Benkert to get a hard look Now at Cardinals..Zona just hired HC Steve Wilks yesterday(he'll be a great coach of men imo) The 1st guy Wilks wanted to thank was Ruffin McNeil..HC Ruffin McNeil with OC Lincoln Riley at ECU was the 2 that recuited Benkert hard to ECU. Benkert blew knee at ECU. McNeil got fired at ECU(senseless, new AD)..Benkert transfers to Virginia
I just hope the Browns scouts are down there taking notes. Do you know who from the Browns is in attendance at the Senior Bowl?
saw hue & Dorsey day 1 in stands.. day 2 Wolfe & Dorsey..imo, Dorsey can't wait to grade these scouts scorecards..Expect more scouts to go when work is final after combine
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
Rosen not a senior & Rosen or doctors not a big fan of bowl games either..
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
Subject to change Tour- this is how I have the "field" ranked now.
1) Darnold
2 Mayfield (OK, he does look like a midget standing next to Allen- glad he measured 6'+ a hair)
3 Rosen (injury concerns)
4 Rudolph
5 Allen
6 Jackson
7 Benkert
Can't remember Who Da Fuq argued with me there that Baker would check in around 6'1-6'2 without cleats and helmet....
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LOL... fair enough.
Same deal for me if it's Allen...
And I don't give a crapola if it is either of them. I just want a QB that can win. Its just that the reports about Allen's quarterbacking skills are particularly bad. If the same were true about Rosen....it would be the same deal for him.
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
And I don't give a crapola if it is either of them. I just want a QB that can win. Its just that the reports about Allen's quarterbacking skills are particularly bad. If the same were true about Rosen....it would be the same deal for him.
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors". Not that they would have attended. Mayfield was the first senior Heisman winner to show up in a long time. It would sort of open up a pandora's box though. The list of underclass early entries to the NFL draft is rather large... Instead of calling it the Senior Bowl I suppose we could resurrect "College All Star Game". http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000908163/article/list-of-underclassmen-granted-eligibility-for-2018-nfl-draft
Allen was eligible though "technically" a junior- he graduated in December.
Can't remember Who Da Fuq argued with me there that Baker would check in around 6'1-6'2 without cleats and helmet....
Wasn't me Tia- think I only argued the crowd who claimed Mayfield was 5'10" would be wrong... As is- his real measured NFL height and stated college height (6'1") was only 5\8" off.
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And I don't give a crapola if it is either of them. I just want a QB that can win. Its just that the reports about Allen's quarterbacking skills are particularly bad. If the same were true about Rosen....it would be the same deal for him.
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors". Not that they would have attended. Mayfield was the first senior Heisman winner to show up in a long time. It would sort of open up a pandora's box though. The list of underclass early entries to the NFL draft is rather large... Instead of calling it the Senior Bowl I suppose we could resurrect "College All Star Game". http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000908163/article/list-of-underclassmen-granted-eligibility-for-2018-nfl-draft
Allen was eligible though "technically" a junior- he graduated in December.
Can't remember Who Da Fuq argued with me there that Baker would check in around 6'1-6'2 without cleats and helmet....
Wasn't me Tia- think I only argued the crowd who claimed Mayfield was 5'10" would be wrong... As is- his real measured NFL height and stated college height (6'1") was only 5\8" off.
That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors". Not that they would have attended. Mayfield was the first senior Heisman winner to show up in a long time. It would sort of open up a pandora's box though. The list of underclass early entries to the NFL draft is rather large... Instead of calling it the Senior Bowl I suppose we could resurrect "College All Star Game". http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000908163/article/list-of-underclassmen-granted-eligibility-for-2018-nfl-draft
Allen was eligible though "technically" a junior- he graduated in December.
Wasn't me Tia- think I only argued the crowd who claimed Mayfield was 5'10" would be wrong... As is- his real measured NFL height and stated college height (6'1") was only 5\8" off.
What about the other "all star" games....like the East-West Shrine game. Can non-Seniors participate in those? (and I assume that it is heavily scouted as well?)
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Subject to change Tour-
7 Benkert
Watch Benkert to get a hard look Now at Cardinals..Zona just hired HC Steve Wilks yesterday(he'll be a great coach of men imo) The 1st guy Wilks wanted to thank was Ruffin McNeil..HC Ruffin McNeil with OC Lincoln Riley at ECU was the 2 that recuited Benkert hard to ECU. Benkert blew knee at ECU. McNeil got fired at ECU(senseless, new AD)..Benkert transfers to Virginia
I just hope the Browns scouts are down there taking notes. Do you know who from the Browns is in attendance at the Senior Bowl?
saw hue & Dorsey day 1 in stands.. day 2 Wolfe & Dorsey..imo, Dorsey can't wait to grade these scouts scorecards..Expect more scouts to go when work is final after combine
(Can I assume that Rosen is not participating in the Senior bowl...because he is not a Senior? Or can anyone who has declared for the draft participate in that?)
Rosen not a senior & Rosen or doctors not a big fan of bowl games either..
imo, Dorsey can't wait to grade these scouts scorecards..Expect more scouts to go when work is final after combine
Oh Boy! Get that group-think started early! 🥷
That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors".
Players who stick it out for four (or five) years deserve (and need) their own showcase. Love that Savage & Co. dig deep in Div's 2 and 3 for prospects to invite that otherwise would get no light cast upon them.
Could start a "Junior Bowl" I guess. With 130 underclassmen certified by the NFL as draft eligible they ought to be able to field a couple teams.
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imo, Dorsey can't wait to grade these scouts scorecards..Expect more scouts to go when work is final after combine
Oh Boy! Get that group-think started early! 🥷
That's probably something that probably should be looked at Gipper. Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Barkley, and Darnold weren't eligible because they weren't "Seniors".
Players who stick it out for four (or five) years deserve (and need) their own showcase. Love that Savage & Co. dig deep in Div's 2 and 3 for prospects to invite that otherwise would get no light cast upon them.
Could start a "Junior Bowl" I guess. With 130 underclassmen certified by the NFL as draft eligible they ought to be able to field a couple teams.
Oh Boy! Get that group-think started early! 🥷
Players who stick it out for four (or five) years deserve (and need) their own showcase. Love that Savage & Co. dig deep in Div's 2 and 3 for prospects to invite that otherwise would get no light cast upon them.
Could start a "Junior Bowl" I guess. With 130 underclassmen certified by the NFL as draft eligible they ought to be able to field a couple teams.
Regarding Savage digging deep that OL guy from D III Humboldt definitely got some love... http://www.hsujacks.com/news/2017/11/27/football-alex-cappa-invited-to-2018-reeses-senior-bowl.aspx
He was rag-dolling guys in his college tape...
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