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  • The worst game I've found from him from a ypc statistic was last year.

    BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Saquon Barkley ran for two go-ahead touchdowns in the fourth quarter, helping No. 10 Penn State beat Indiana 45-31 on Saturday.

    Barkley was held to 20 yards on 20 carries though the first three quarters. But the Big Ten's top rusher stepped up in the final period, helping the Nittany Lions (8-2, 6-1, No. 12 AP) keep pace with No. 3 Michigan in the East Division with their sixth consecutive victory.

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    First, Barkley found a hole for a 4-yard TD run that made it 28-24. After Indiana regained the lead on Richard Lagow's 40-yard touchdown pass to Nick Westbrook, Barkley ran over a defender for a 2-yard score with 3:58 left.

    "What you can't do when you're struggling in the run game is abort it, especially with a young offensive line," Penn State coach James Franklin said. "It was a gutsy, gutsy win on the road."

    Penn State sealed the victory with a 9-yard fumble return for a TD with 29 seconds left.

    Barkley finished with 60 yards on 33 carries. Trace McSorley was 16 of 30 for 332 yards with two TD passes and two interceptions.

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    If you take out Barkley's 2 catches in that game the QB was 14 of 28 for 332 yards. That seems chunk plays to me. To me that tells me they sold out to stop the run, and got burnt for doing so. Barkley played his part and grinded, in the end when it counted he punched it in for a lead. 

    They won't be able to do that to the Browns because we have Gordon who can blow the top off if they slip up and sell out. 

    @poeticg said:

    The worst game I've found from him from a ypc statistic was last year.

    BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Saquon Barkley ran for two go-ahead touchdowns in the fourth quarter, helping No. 10 Penn State beat Indiana 45-31 on Saturday.

    Barkley was held to 20 yards on 20 carries though the first three quarters. But the Big Ten's top rusher stepped up in the final period, helping the Nittany Lions (8-2, 6-1, No. 12 AP) keep pace with No. 3 Michigan in the East Division with their sixth consecutive victory.

    Editor's Picks

    First, Barkley found a hole for a 4-yard TD run that made it 28-24. After Indiana regained the lead on Richard Lagow's 40-yard touchdown pass to Nick Westbrook, Barkley ran over a defender for a 2-yard score with 3:58 left.

    "What you can't do when you're struggling in the run game is abort it, especially with a young offensive line," Penn State coach James Franklin said. "It was a gutsy, gutsy win on the road."

    Penn State sealed the victory with a 9-yard fumble return for a TD with 29 seconds left.

    Barkley finished with 60 yards on 33 carries. Trace McSorley was 16 of 30 for 332 yards with two TD passes and two interceptions.

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    If you take out Barkley's 2 catches in that game the QB was 14 of 28 for 332 yards. That seems chunk plays to me. To me that tells me they sold out to stop the run, and got burnt for doing so. Barkley played his part and grinded, in the end when it counted he punched it in for a lead. 

    They won't be able to do that to the Browns because we have Gordon who can blow the top off if they slip up and sell out. 

    He's a good football player, no doubt. But calling him a generational player when he hasn't played a down in the NFL is ludicrous. And the expectation can't be the any college player can duplicate the big play numbers they had in college at the pro level.

    0-16 is as bad as you can get as a team. But the 53 players on the team are still the best of the best college had to offer. There isn't a "scrub" anywhere.

    The reason that a game like Ohio State is being discussed. They are closer to what an NFL defense will look like in regards to skill, speed, size, etc. than most teams. 

    So there is a difference in how a player performs against Mercer and against Clemson.

    So, with how you view your new hero in Saquon Barkley, who would you rather have on your football team, Barkley or Gurley?

  • @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Kind of like Hue? 

    @d-bone said:

    Kind of like Hue? 

    Kind of like that.

  • I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?

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    @dutch-oven said:

    I can't be the only person who gets this image in their head after reading a PoG post, right?

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    I actually envision this a bit more:

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  • Would it be that bad if Hogan started the season while Baker learned from Hogan's experience? Hogan with Barkley, Gordon, Coleman and Njoku. They are gonna put up a lot of points if they get to work together and develop some chemistry.

    @poeticg said:

    1. Would it be that bad if Hogan started the season while Baker learned from Hogan's experience?

    @poeticg said:

    2. How sweet would it be to draft a #1 Overall RB?

    I love a pop quiz...

    1. I'm going to go with.... "Very?"
    2. Ummmm... "Bitter?"

    POP QUIZ: As to "Hogan's experience"... do we think we can afford the 7 minutes it would take to fully communicate that?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    LOL!😆 Another student of history I see. Don't tell them anything while their heads are in the sand. It worked out so well in Germany, Italy and Franco's Spain.

    EDIT: You can ship Nero's and my comments to the political board if you wish Mark.

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Same pay tho?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    LOL!😆 Another student of history I see. Don't tell them anything while their heads are in the sand. It worked out so well in Germany, Italy and Franco's Spain.

    EDIT: You can ship Nero's and my comments to the political board if you wish Mark.

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Couldn't help myself...

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  • @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Couldn't help myself...

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    @tiamat63 said:

    Couldn't help myself...

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    My wife tells me that all the time.

  • @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Same pay tho?

    @tour2ma said:

    Same pay tho?

    Yep..

    Exactly the same.

  • Barkley against Ohio State in 2015 - Penn State leaned on Barkley, who had missed the last two games with a foot injury. He made a difference, but his long touchdown run that could have put Penn State up 10-0 in the first quarter was wiped out by a holding call on right guard Brian Gaia. 

    2015 Game Log

    Rushing Receiving
    DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
                             
                             
                             
                             
           
           
    10/17 @Ohio State L 38-10 26 194 7.5 56 0 0 0 0.0 0

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  • @tour2ma said:

    Same pay tho?

    Yep..

    Exactly the same.

    @mark-o said:

    Yep.. Exactly the same.

    Sweet... less responsibility... same pay.

  • In 2016- 

    2016 Game Log Rushing Receiving
    DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
    10/22 Ohio State W 24-21 12 99 8.3 37 0 0 0 0.0 0 0
  • In 2016- 

    2016 Game Log Rushing Receiving
    DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
    10/22 Ohio State W 24-21 12 99 8.3 37 0 0 0 0.0 0 0

    @poeticg said:

    In 2016- 

    2016 Game Log Rushing Receiving
    DATE OPP RESULT   ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
                             
    10/22 Ohio State W 24-21 12 99 8.3 37 0 0 0 0.0 0 0

    Color me convinced... /s

  • I think that you guys tend to expect TOO MUCH from players sometimes. Take a guess at which 2 runningbacks owned these college stats?

    For reference here's Saquon Barkley's stats- 

    NCAA career statistics
    Penn State Nittany Lions
    Season Team Rushing   Receiving   Kickoff Return Passing
    G Att Yds Avg Long TD Rec Yds Avg Long TD KR Yds TD Long Comp Att Yards TD
    2015 Penn State 11 182 1,076 5.9 56 7 20 161 8.1 32 0 1 12 0 12 0 0 0 0
    2016 Penn State 14 272 1,496 5.5 81T 18 28 402 14.4 44T 5 4 84 0 33 0 0 0 0
    2017 Penn State 13 217 1,271 5.9 92T 18 54 632 11.7 85T 3 14 423 2 98T 2 2 36 1
    Total 38 672 3,843 5.7 92T 43   102 1,195 11.7 85T 8   19 519 2 98T 2 2 36 1

     Who owns the boxes down below? 

    Rushing

    Receiving
    YEAR ATT YDS AVG LNG TD NO. YDS AVG LNG TD
    1979 115 477 4.3 43 6 6 35 5.8 11 0
    1980 188 928 4.9 54 5 6 93 15.5 37 1
    1981 255 1,428 5.6 62 19 1 2 2.0 2 0
    1982 232 1,617 7.0 80 17 6 60 10.0 35 0
    Totals 790 4,450 5.6 80 47 19 190 10.0 37 1

    College statistics - 

      Rushing Receiving
    Year Team GP Att Yards Avg TDs Rec Yards TDs
    2004 Oklahoma 13 339 1,925 5.7 15 5 12 0
    2005 Oklahoma 11 221 1,104 5.0 14 9 50 0
    2006 Oklahoma 7 188 1,012 5.4 12 10 136 1
    College Totals 31 748 4,041 5.4 41 24 198 1
  • Cool... a game... AP and Hershall... (actually Hershall and AP)...

    Your turn...

    Who are these guys?

      Rushing Receiving Scrimmage
            Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
                      RB 12 78 370 4.7 2 1 14 14.0 0 79 384 4.9 2
                      RB 12 191 990 5.2 13 18 128 7.1 0 209 1118 5.3 13
                      RB 12 196 1042 5.3 8 10 68 6.8 0 206 1110 5.4 8
                      RB 12 253 1459 5.8 6 9 55 6.1 0 262 1514 5.8 6
        Rushing Receiving Scrimmage
    Year School Conf Class Pos G Att Yds Avg TD Rec Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg TD
                664 3923 5.9 50 65 805 12.4 5 729 4728 6.5 55
          FR RB 10 205 1128 5.5 17 12 95 7.9 2 217 1223 5.6 19
          SO RB 13 248 1744 7.0 16 27 360 13.3 2 275 2104 7.7 18
          JR RB 13 211 1051 5.0 17 26 350 13.5 1 237 1401 5.9 18
  • @nero said:

    I love it how some posters create camps in this forum...

    While others create nazi parties and fill everything up with propaganda.

    LOL!😆 Another student of history I see. Don't tell them anything while their heads are in the sand. It worked out so well in Germany, Italy and Franco's Spain.

    EDIT: You can ship Nero's and my comments to the political board if you wish Mark.

    @texasag1969 said:

    LOL!😆 Another student of history I see. Don't tell them anything while their heads are in the sand. It worked out so well in Germany, Italy and Franco's Spain.

    EDIT: You can ship Nero's and my comments to the political board if you wish Mark.

    @mark-o said:

    I don't have that power here anymore.  I'm a moderator in title only but without any real powers.

    Yeah- Zombo is the one with real powers, like kick bums off, suspend people, or change screen names.(Regarding the messing with names, I've told him several times I don't approve, and I  think it's childish)  I can only warn, delete, merge, and move. Haven't seen anything yet I'd want to move. Po means well, so let him show his over the top Barkley love here. His track record on spotting winners is sort of iffy....   

  • One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. 

  • One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. 

    @poeticg said:

    One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. 

    So you never answered, rather have Barkley or Gurley?

  • Barkley, easy. 

  • Barkley, easy. 

    @poeticg said:

    Barkley, easy. 

    Ahh, so you want someone who is unproven over a pro bowler who is still young, can do all phases, and had he not been held out of the last game, would have been league leader in rushing.

    That proves everything 

  • One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson. 

    @poeticg said:

    One was Adrian Peterson the other was Eric Dickerson.

    Damn... I missed one.

    Guess my two were stumpers...

    They were:

    • Butch Woolfolk - School: Michigan - Position: RB - Draft: 1st round, 18th overall of the 1982 NFL draft by the New York Giants... and
    • Steve Slaton - School: West Virginia - Position: RB - Heisman Voting: 4th in 2006