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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Here's some practice footage of Allen and Mayfield. 

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @poeticg said:

    Here's some practice footage of Allen and Mayfield. 

    Not being able to tackle takes away a lot.

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      1. Seems weird that the organizers loaded up the Denver coached North Team with QBs so the Bronco Staff could get a close look at them.

      Uhum....doesn't each squad get the same number of players at each position? Your statement sounds like they are giving the North 5-6 QBs while only giving 1-2 to the South. 

      Or...are you saying that it seems that the North is getting more of the "highly rated" QBs...and that the South is getting the end of the drafters.

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      @the-gipper said:

      1. Seems weird that the organizers loaded up the Denver coached North Team with QBs so the Bronco Staff could get a close look at them.

      1. Uhum....doesn't each squad get the same number of players at each position? Your statement sounds like they are giving the North 5-6 QBs while only giving 1-2 to the South. 

      2. Or...are you saying that it seems that the North is getting more of the "highly rated" QBs...and that the South is getting the end of the drafters.

      1. Yes..
      2. Therefore it's clearly #2.
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        @the-gipper said:

        1. Seems weird that the organizers loaded up the Denver coached North Team with QBs so the Bronco Staff could get a close look at them.

        1. Uhum....doesn't each squad get the same number of players at each position? Your statement sounds like they are giving the North 5-6 QBs while only giving 1-2 to the South. 

        2. Or...are you saying that it seems that the North is getting more of the "highly rated" QBs...and that the South is getting the end of the drafters.

        1. Yes..
        2. Therefore it's clearly #2.
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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @tour2ma said:

        1. Yes..
        2. Therefore it's clearly #2.

        How so then?

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          TE Mike Gesicki from Penn State has been balling this week. Not that we’re in the market for a TE early, but this guy is a stud

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          @lionofbuddha said:

          TE Mike Gesicki from Penn State has been balling this week. Not that we’re in the market for a TE early, but this guy is a stud

          He'll kill it at the combine in the vertical- he was a HS dunk champion.   

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            @lionofbuddha said:

            TE Mike Gesicki from Penn State has been balling this week. Not that we’re in the market for a TE early, but this guy is a stud

            He'll kill it at the combine in the vertical- he was a HS dunk champion.   

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            He'll kill it at the combine in the vertical- he was a HS dunk champion.   

            He is awesome.  

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              Looking forward to this guy

              https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/senior_bowl_2018_san_diego_sta.amp

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                @tour2ma said:

                1. Yes..
                2. Therefore it's clearly #2.

                How so then?

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                @the-gipper said:

                How so then?

                Savage did Denver a huge favor loading them up with the top QB prospects, since they're in the market. Elway specifically requested Mayfield. Add in Josh Allen, Luke Falk, and they would have gotten your guy Mason Rudolph too- if he hadn't been hurt. 

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                  Looking forward to this guy

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/senior_bowl_2018_san_diego_sta.amp

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                  @sd_tom said:

                  Looking forward to this guy

                  https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/senior_bowl_2018_san_diego_sta.amp

                  Yeah- I'm not really feeling the Saquon Barkley love- especially not @ #1 overall. Saw a stat on Walter Football that 21% of his carries were for negative yardage. Ditto the Josh Allen #1 overall by Mel. He's got an Elway arm with Kizer accuracy. 

                  Got a feeling there will be near rioting if we don't use one of the first round picks on a QB. Darnold or Mayfield. 

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                    @sd_tom said:

                    Looking forward to this guy

                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/01/senior_bowl_2018_san_diego_sta.amp

                    Yeah- I'm not really feeling the Saquon Barkley love- especially not @ #1 overall. Saw a stat on Walter Football that 21% of his carries were for negative yardage. Ditto the Josh Allen #1 overall by Mel. He's got an Elway arm with Kizer accuracy. 

                    Got a feeling there will be near rioting if we don't use one of the first round picks on a QB. Darnold or Mayfield. 

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                    @hoorta said:

                    Yeah- I'm not really feeling the Saquon Barkley love- especially not @ #1 overall. Saw a stat on Walter Football that 21% of his carries were for negative yardage. Ditto the Josh Allen #1 overall by Mel. He's got an Elway arm with Kizer accuracy. 

                    Got a feeling there will be near rioting if we don't use one of the first round picks on a QB. Darnold or Mayfield. 

                    Yes the popular opinion squad that think they actually own, run and coach all NFL teams will have a collective hissy fit and go online and write all kinds of junk demanding change......who knows maybe they'll have another parade! 

                    Back to reality who's #1 and 4, a classic opportunity for the BROWNS to make a bold statement!  (I hope they don't knuckle under.)

                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                      @hoorta said:

                      Yeah- I'm not really feeling the Saquon Barkley love- especially not @ #1 overall. Saw a stat on Walter Football that 21% of his carries were for negative yardage. Ditto the Josh Allen #1 overall by Mel. He's got an Elway arm with Kizer accuracy. 

                      Got a feeling there will be near rioting if we don't use one of the first round picks on a QB. Darnold or Mayfield. 

                      Yes the popular opinion squad that think they actually own, run and coach all NFL teams will have a collective hissy fit and go online and write all kinds of junk demanding change......who knows maybe they'll have another parade! 

                      Back to reality who's #1 and 4, a classic opportunity for the BROWNS to make a bold statement!  (I hope they don't knuckle under.)

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                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                      @mjp28 said:

                      Yes the popular opinion squad that think they actually own, run and coach all NFL teams will have a collective hissy fit and go online and write all kinds of junk demanding change......who knows maybe they'll have another parade! 

                      Back to reality who's #1 and 4, a classic opportunity for the BROWNS to make a bold statement!  (I hope they don't knuckle under.)

                      You know I'm kidding about the rioting- like us fans have any say in the matter. I think with Jimmuh's comment when he introduced Dorsey- getting a franchise qb is Job #1. 

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                      • The GipperT The Gipper

                        @tour2ma said:

                        1. Yes..
                        2. Therefore it's clearly #2.

                        How so then?

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        How so then?

                        For starters Elway "requested" that Mayfield be assigned to the DNV staff's squad.

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          How so then?

                          Savage did Denver a huge favor loading them up with the top QB prospects, since they're in the market. Elway specifically requested Mayfield. Add in Josh Allen, Luke Falk, and they would have gotten your guy Mason Rudolph too- if he hadn't been hurt. 

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @hoorta said:

                          Savage did Denver a huge favor loading them up with the top QB prospects, since they're in the market. Elway specifically requested Mayfield. Add in Josh Allen, Luke Falk, and they would have gotten your guy Mason Rudolph too- if he hadn't been hurt. 

                          Who did the other team get?

                          And Rudolph isn't really "my guy"....I simply reported that a particular scouting service had him ranked as the best QB prospect.  And still does.  But some other arrogant cokwads seemed to take personal affront that some professional scouting service would disagree with their amateur opinions.  I pointed out that he is in the mix it seems to be highly drafted...and to potentially be one of the actual better QBs coming out of this group. I also pointed out that he has the big red flag "Big 12 QB"  spray painted prominently on his back.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            ... and you've been waffling ever since you nearly took a stand.

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                              I've mentioned him before, but another player to watch is "Horrible Harry" Harrison Phillips from Stanford. One of the leading tacklers in the Pac 12. Supposedly he is strong enough where he wants to set the BP record in the combine. 

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                                ... and you've been waffling ever since you nearly took a stand.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                ... and you've been waffling ever since you nearly took a stand.

                                 Yeah because I don't see that any of these guys are all that and a bag of chips it's called being smart 

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                                  @hoorta said:

                                  Savage did Denver a huge favor loading them up with the top QB prospects, since they're in the market. Elway specifically requested Mayfield. Add in Josh Allen, Luke Falk, and they would have gotten your guy Mason Rudolph too- if he hadn't been hurt. 

                                  Who did the other team get?

                                  And Rudolph isn't really "my guy"....I simply reported that a particular scouting service had him ranked as the best QB prospect.  And still does.  But some other arrogant cokwads seemed to take personal affront that some professional scouting service would disagree with their amateur opinions.  I pointed out that he is in the mix it seems to be highly drafted...and to potentially be one of the actual better QBs coming out of this group. I also pointed out that he has the big red flag "Big 12 QB"  spray painted prominently on his back.

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Who did the other team get?

                                  And Rudolph isn't really "my guy"....I simply reported that a particular scouting service had him ranked as the best QB prospect.  And still does.  But some other arrogant cokwads seemed to take personal affront that some professional scouting service would disagree with their amateur opinions.  I pointed out that he is in the mix it seems to be highly drafted...and to potentially be one of the actual better QBs coming out of this group. I also pointed out that he has the big red flag "Big 12 QB"  spray painted prominently on his back.

                                  OK, I understand you were quoting an ancient history mock draft on Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. He's currently nowhere to be seen on a bunch of other "professional scouting service" mocks in the first round.  🙂  

                                  The South QBs, and dig deep Gip. 

                                  Brandon Silvers, Troy

                                  Kurt Benkert, Virginia  (Tour has had his eyes on him for a while) 

                                  Mike White, Western Kentucky (put him in the dark horse thread, he looked decent Thursday)

                                  Kyle Lauletta, Richmond (I have to say who?) 

                                  BTW, the South has Rashaad Penny SD State, led DI in rushing... tune in this afternoon...   

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                                    Gipper thinks Rudolph is the best QB in the draft?  Wow.  That's bold.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      Thoughts through the first two days of practice.

                                      1. Seems weird that the organizers loaded up the Denver coached North Team with QBs so the Bronco Staff could get a close look at them.
                                      2. Outside of the QB group this year's roster feels less talented than last year's.
                                      3. Outside of QBs the strength of the the rosters seems to be in the interior OL and DL. Should see some real battles here.
                                      4. Edge rushers seem to have a significant edge over their OT opposites.
                                      5. Ditto for WR over DBs
                                      6. Little feel as yet for the RBs and LBs in attendance.

                                      Players who look to be making money this week:

                                      • RB
                                      • WR: Michael Gallop (Col St.); Justin Watson (Penn)
                                      • TE
                                      • OT
                                      • OG: Will Hernandez (UTEP);
                                      • OC: Isaiah Wynn (UGA);
                                      • DT: Justin Jones (NC St.); BJ Hill (NC St.)
                                      • Edge: Marcus Davenport (UTSA); Uchenna Nwosu (USC)
                                      • ILB: Tre' Williams (AUB);
                                      • CB: Kameron Kelly (SDSU);
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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Thoughts through the first two days of practice.

                                      1. Seems weird that the organizers loaded up the Denver coached North Team with QBs so the Bronco Staff could get a close look at them.
                                      2. Outside of the QB group this year's roster feels less talented than last year's.
                                      3. Outside of QBs the strength of the the rosters seems to be in the interior OL and DL. Should see some real battles here.
                                      4. Edge rushers seem to have a significant edge over their OT opposites.
                                      5. Ditto for WR over DBs
                                      6. Little feel as yet for the RBs and LBs in attendance.

                                      Players who look to be making money this week:

                                      • RB-K.Ballage//R.Penny
                                      • WR: Michael Gallop (Col St.); Justin Watson (Penn)..(Lazard,Berrios,D.Hamilton(all run good routes)///J.Washington,Ateman,Pringle
                                      • TE-Fumagalli🙂,Gesicki(he can't block Shoolie)///
                                      • OT-B.O'Neill-Pitt(like),T.Crosby///Noteboom,B.Parker
                                      • OG: Will Hernandez (UTEP);///I.Wynn
                                      • OC: Isaiah Wynn (UGA);(gold at G,played some T?)
                                      • DT: Justin Jones (NC St.); BJ Hill (NC St.)///Andrew Brown
                                      • Edge: Marcus Davenport (UTSA); Uchenna Nwosu (USC),O.Okoronkwo,H.Phillips///D.Hand,S.Griffin(no is not a answer)
                                      • ILB: Nick Deluca(smooth coverage skills,imo)/// Tre' Williams (AUB), Darius Leonard
                                      • CB: Taron Johnson///Kameron Kelly (SDSU),D'Montre Wade
                                      • S-Armani Watts///6'2 box S -Kyzir White

                                      Few more names in the mix^^^ North///South..P. Savage did his job...starting to look like the draft depth is growing to maybe 3.5 rounds..

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                                        I would hate to be a scout. The more I watch, the more I like certain players than originally planned. For example, Mayfield. His accuracy is way more impressive than I thought. It's very obvious that he will play to this strength. His arm is also better than I thought. There is just something about him that makes me think he is going to be a winner in the league. I'm not saying he should be drafted before Rosen or Darnold, but I definitely think he is better than Allen. Also, the JM comparisons are poor journalism. He's fiery, has some immaturity issues, but I don't think he is a coke head nor do I feel his passion for the game lacks. In fact, his passion and competitiveness are one  of things that I love about him. He's Brett Favre in the sense he really doesn't care what people think. he's there to win at all cost and will rub it in your face, which for some reason, I like. 

                                        On the flip side, a guy I loved coming into this week was Rashaad Penny and I have heard nothing but negative reviews. I still think he is going to be special but I was hoping he would have performed way better than he has. There is still the game to flash, but we will see. 

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                                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                          So is it clearer who the BROWNS will pick at #1 or 4? Is a QB pick  guaranteed?

                                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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