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  • Flugel FlugelF Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    While Charlies Fryes MVP performance at the Senior Bowl reminds me to never make too much out of a couple quarters of football with strangers thrown together in a 1 week blender - my football wood factor still went from balsa to sequoia over 2 QBs yesterday.

    Western Kentucky's Mike White showed us why WKU was the highest scoring offense within the last 2 years.  In 2016, this guy had a comp % of 67 with a TD:INT ratio of 37:7 with 4363 yds and in 2017 the comp % was 65.7 with the ratio of 26:8 with 4177 yds.   I think a HUGE part of the slight decline in numbers was the change in Head Coach from Jeff Brohm (former Cleveland Brown QB for approximately 1 cup of coffee) to Mike Sanford.  Anyway, kid looked comfortable and made some nice throws while attempts to manipulate the Safety were acknowledged.  Good arm with a nice 6-4 frame. 

    Until catching Kyle Lauletta's act yesterday, I always thought of Richmond QBs as Encie-weencie Spiders.  How did Cal miss this guy in his search for the biggest underdog QB?   Did you take one of Rip Van Winkle's sleeping pills? Anyway, he clearly earned the MVP honor yesterday  (although SDSU's RB Penny reminds us there will be GOOD RBs after round 1).  Was there a throw this kid couldn't make even in some air tight windows?  He's got good size too at 6'3".  In 2016, his comp% was 63% with a TD:INT ratio of 24:8 and 3022 yds and in 2017 he had a comp% of 64.9 with the ratio of 28:12 on the TDs to INTs with 3737 yds. If we do what Washington did the year they drafted 2 QBs - he'd be someone to consider in the area Washington drafted Cousins in or a little later if doable...

    Virginia's Kurt Benkert lasered in a beautiful throw to Rashaad Penny down the sideline just over the BYU corner.  He improved his comp % in 2017 to 58.5 from 56.2 the year before. In 2016, he had 21 TDs to 11 INTs with 2552 yds. In 2017, he had 25 TDs to 9 INTs. I don'tknow how accurate this is but he's listed at 6'4" by College Football at Sports-Reference.com.  He could be another guy to consider later if we draft 1 early and 1 late. 

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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      At the other end of some impressive QBing yesterday, emerged some play makers that had to intrigue NFL teams such as:

      LSU WR DJ Chark

      UCF TE Jordan Akins

      UCF WR TreQuan Smith

      SDSU RB Rashaad Penny

      ND TE Durham Smythe

      OSU WR Marcel Ateman (his teammate James Washington followed up a great year with a great week of practices)

      WR CSU Michael Gallup

      I'm sure I missed some offensive guys that made some plays here and there.

      Who were some play makers or QBs that jumped out at you guys on the offensive side of the ball?

      I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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        Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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          I had to read the thread title 3 times...    I think I'm still Shmucked up.  

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            I had to read the thread title 3 times...    I think I'm still Shmucked up.  

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            @tiamat63 said:

            I had to read the thread title 3 times...    I think I'm still Shmucked up.  

            God bless ya!  I had to recruit you somehow T!

            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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              @tiamat63 said:

              I had to read the thread title 3 times...    I think I'm still Shmucked up.  

              God bless ya!  I had to recruit you somehow T!

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              God bless ya!  I had to recruit you somehow T!

              I'm a simple man, I see Spidey, I hit like.  

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                There was already a thread on White - you can bet he is noticed now. Impressive - Dorsey is interested in him.

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                  There was already a thread on White - you can bet he is noticed now. Impressive - Dorsey is interested in him.

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                  There was already a thread on White - you can bet he is noticed now. Impressive - Dorsey is interested in him.

                  Link?

                  Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                    There was already a thread on White - you can bet he is noticed now. Impressive - Dorsey is interested in him.

                    Link?

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                      While Charlies Fryes MVP performance at the Senior Bowl reminds me to never make too much out of a couple quarters of football with strangers thrown together in a 1 week blender - my football wood factor still went from balsa to sequoia over 2 QBs yesterday.

                      Western Kentucky's Mike White showed us why WKU was the highest scoring offense within the last 2 years.  In 2016, this guy had a comp % of 67 with a TD:INT ratio of 37:7 with 4363 yds and in 2017 the comp % was 65.7 with the ratio of 26:8 with 4177 yds.   I think a HUGE part of the slight decline in numbers was the change in Head Coach from Jeff Brohm (former Cleveland Brown QB for approximately 1 cup of coffee) to Mike Sanford.  Anyway, kid looked comfortable and made some nice throws while attempts to manipulate the Safety were acknowledged.  Good arm with a nice 6-4 frame. 

                      Until catching Kyle Lauletta's act yesterday, I always thought of Richmond QBs as Encie-weencie Spiders.  How did Cal miss this guy in his search for the biggest underdog QB?   Did you take one of Rip Van Winkle's sleeping pills? Anyway, he clearly earned the MVP honor yesterday  (although SDSU's RB Penny reminds us there will be GOOD RBs after round 1).  Was there a throw this kid couldn't make even in some air tight windows?  He's got good size too at 6'3".  In 2016, his comp% was 63% with a TD:INT ratio of 24:8 and 3022 yds and in 2017 he had a comp% of 64.9 with the ratio of 28:12 on the TDs to INTs with 3737 yds. If we do what Washington did the year they drafted 2 QBs - he'd be someone to consider in the area Washington drafted Cousins in or a little later if doable...

                      Virginia's Kurt Benkert lasered in a beautiful throw to Rashaad Penny down the sideline just over the BYU corner.  He improved his comp % in 2017 to 58.5 from 56.2 the year before. In 2016, he had 21 TDs to 11 INTs with 2552 yds. In 2017, he had 25 TDs to 9 INTs. I don'tknow how accurate this is but he's listed at 6'4" by College Football at Sports-Reference.com.  He could be another guy to consider later if we draft 1 early and 1 late. 

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                      @flugel said:

                      Virginia's Kurt Benkert lasered in a beautiful throw to Rashaad Penny down the sideline just over the BYU corner.  He improved his comp % in 2017 to 58.5 from 56.2 the year before. In 2016, he had 21 TDs to 11 INTs with 2552 yds. In 2017, he had 25 TDs to 9 INTs. I don'tknow how accurate this is but he's listed at 6'4" by College Football at Sports-Reference.com.  He could be another guy to consider later if we draft 1 early and 1 late. 

                      Welcome to my Darkhorse Camp...

                      They measure at the Sr. Bowl. Benkert was 6' 2.5 and 214#. His throwing mechanics are at the top of this class. He had a lot of issues this earlier week working under Center.

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                        White, Lualetta, Benkert are all "sleepers" but no one I would build my franchise around. Especially the Browns. And while I'd agree that this would be the draft to double-up and get a mid-round QB ... don't the Browns have Kessler (3rd) and Kizer (2nd) on the roster? And presuming you draft the top guy at #1 and sign an Alex Smith type place-holder, where's the room for a 4th QB? And don't say practice squad, because anyone you draft in the 3rd-5th round range can't go on the PS because another team will grab them. The Browns will be in a  good position at QB with Kizer (still has upside), the #1 pick (presumably) and Kessler. And if you have a veteran like Smith or Bradford or Keenum ... you're in even better shape and not in need of a mid-round guy. Just load up on the depth and leave QB alone after pick #1

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                          Kessler is a lost cause.  When he goes in the game,  I'm expecting either a 10yd sack for a loss,  or an incomplete pass out of bounds 

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                            So Matt Miller had White and Penny as "stock down" in his report.... But had penny as the mvp of the game? 

                            Huh? 

                            I'm guessing he had them graded  lower during practice week and then rated again on game performance? 

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                              Kessler is a lost cause.  When he goes in the game,  I'm expecting either a 10yd sack for a loss,  or an incomplete pass out of bounds 

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                              @sd_tom said:

                              Kessler is a lost cause.  When he goes in the game,  I'm expecting either a 10yd sack for a loss,  or an incomplete pass out of bounds 

                              Exactly Tom!   

                              As for the Matt Miller perspective - there were a few guys that could have probably earned that MVP honor such as Penny and LSU WR DJ Chark (5 receptions for 160 yards including a 75 yard TD).

                              I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                                While Charlies Fryes MVP performance at the Senior Bowl reminds me to never make too much out of a couple quarters of football with strangers thrown together in a 1 week blender - my football wood factor still went from balsa to sequoia over 2 QBs yesterday.

                                Western Kentucky's Mike White showed us why WKU was the highest scoring offense within the last 2 years.  In 2016, this guy had a comp % of 67 with a TD:INT ratio of 37:7 with 4363 yds and in 2017 the comp % was 65.7 with the ratio of 26:8 with 4177 yds.   I think a HUGE part of the slight decline in numbers was the change in Head Coach from Jeff Brohm (former Cleveland Brown QB for approximately 1 cup of coffee) to Mike Sanford.  Anyway, kid looked comfortable and made some nice throws while attempts to manipulate the Safety were acknowledged.  Good arm with a nice 6-4 frame. 

                                Until catching Kyle Lauletta's act yesterday, I always thought of Richmond QBs as Encie-weencie Spiders.  How did Cal miss this guy in his search for the biggest underdog QB?   Did you take one of Rip Van Winkle's sleeping pills? Anyway, he clearly earned the MVP honor yesterday  (although SDSU's RB Penny reminds us there will be GOOD RBs after round 1).  Was there a throw this kid couldn't make even in some air tight windows?  He's got good size too at 6'3".  In 2016, his comp% was 63% with a TD:INT ratio of 24:8 and 3022 yds and in 2017 he had a comp% of 64.9 with the ratio of 28:12 on the TDs to INTs with 3737 yds. If we do what Washington did the year they drafted 2 QBs - he'd be someone to consider in the area Washington drafted Cousins in or a little later if doable...

                                Virginia's Kurt Benkert lasered in a beautiful throw to Rashaad Penny down the sideline just over the BYU corner.  He improved his comp % in 2017 to 58.5 from 56.2 the year before. In 2016, he had 21 TDs to 11 INTs with 2552 yds. In 2017, he had 25 TDs to 9 INTs. I don'tknow how accurate this is but he's listed at 6'4" by College Football at Sports-Reference.com.  He could be another guy to consider later if we draft 1 early and 1 late. 

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                                @flugel said:

                                While Charlies Fryes MVP performance at the Senior Bowl reminds me to never make too much out of a couple quarters of football with strangers thrown together in a 1 week blender - my football wood factor still went from balsa to sequoia over 2 QBs yesterday.

                                Western Kentucky's Mike White showed us why WKU was the highest scoring offense within the last 2 years.  In 2016, this guy had a comp % of 67 with a TD:INT ratio of 37:7 with 4363 yds and in 2017 the comp % was 65.7 with the ratio of 26:8 with 4177 yds.   I think a HUGE part of the slight decline in numbers was the change in Head Coach from Jeff Brohm (former Cleveland Brown QB for approximately 1 cup of coffee) to Mike Sanford.  Anyway, kid looked comfortable and made some nice throws while attempts to manipulate the Safety were acknowledged.  Good arm with a nice 6-4 frame. 

                                Until catching Kyle Lauletta's act yesterday, I always thought of Richmond QBs as Encie-weencie Spiders.  How did Cal miss this guy in his search for the biggest underdog QB?   Did you take one of Rip Van Winkle's sleeping pills? Anyway, he clearly earned the MVP honor yesterday  (although SDSU's RB Penny reminds us there will be GOOD RBs after round 1).  Was there a throw this kid couldn't make even in some air tight windows?  He's got good size too at 6'3".  In 2016, his comp% was 63% with a TD:INT ratio of 24:8 and 3022 yds and in 2017 he had a comp% of 64.9 with the ratio of 28:12 on the TDs to INTs with 3737 yds. If we do what Washington did the year they drafted 2 QBs - he'd be someone to consider in the area Washington drafted Cousins in or a little later if doable...

                                Virginia's Kurt Benkert lasered in a beautiful throw to Rashaad Penny down the sideline just over the BYU corner.  He improved his comp % in 2017 to 58.5 from 56.2 the year before. In 2016, he had 21 TDs to 11 INTs with 2552 yds. In 2017, he had 25 TDs to 9 INTs. I don'tknow how accurate this is but he's listed at 6'4" by College Football at Sports-Reference.com.  He could be another guy to consider later if we draft 1 early and 1 late. 

                                I think I would still need a heavy dose of Viagra....accompanied by a bedroom session with like Kaley Cuocco....to have wood for Lauletta and White.  Though I could see them being taken by the Browns as a second drafted QB in the late rounds.

                                That is so even though I have some kinship with Western KY.....since my Dad is a native of Bowling Green KY.

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                                  Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

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                                  Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

                                  Particularly since we have a plethora of draft picks.  How many?  Like 14?

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                                    Kessler is a lost cause.  When he goes in the game,  I'm expecting either a 10yd sack for a loss,  or an incomplete pass out of bounds 

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                                    @sd_tom said:

                                    Kessler is a lost cause.  When he goes in the game,  I'm expecting either a 10yd sack for a loss,  or an incomplete pass out of bounds 

                                    Or a strip sack fumble.  Of course, that is Kizer's specialty as well.

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                                      Tom.. I wouldn't mind one bit if we drafted 2 QB's this year..... I think its a good thing to do... if there was ever a draft to do it,, this would be the one.....

                                      Particularly since we have a plethora of draft picks.  How many?  Like 14?

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Particularly since we have a plethora of draft picks.  How many?  Like 14?

                                      Sure.. take one of the top 3 Darnold, Mayfield or Rosen....them take Lauletta 3-4th round. maybe...

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                                        https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentuckiana/2018/01/25/wku-quarterback-mike-white-getting-little-nfl-draft-buzz-senior-bowl/1062820001/

                                        A two-year starter at WKU after transferring from South Florida, White is one of those Senior Bowl players being talked about this week (especially with the Cleveland Browns).

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                                          questions out there about Mike White - "Mike White the Patriot's next Brady?".

                                          interesting.

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