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  • mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    Well how to sum this one up?

    ........ So could it perhaps be that the XFL has been unfairly maligned all these years, and it could be due for a comeback next year as a real rival to the NFL again?  Could the XFL rise from the ashes like the metaphorical phoenix and prove us all wrong once and for all?

    No, of course not. Come on. Really now. 

    But whatever. It’s Vince's money this time, at least.......

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    I wonder what the odds are on this one?

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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      Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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        Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

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        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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        @poeticg said:

        Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

        The AAFC didn't merge with the NFL, it folded and the NFL allowed three teams from the AAFC to join the NFL. The Browns and 49ers exist to today, the original Colts (I believe) only lasted for one season (1950) and then folded.

        Which is a shame, because an argument can be made that the AAFC was actually superior to the NFL.

        The entire AFL did merge with the NFL though.

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          @poeticg said:

          Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

          The AAFC didn't merge with the NFL, it folded and the NFL allowed three teams from the AAFC to join the NFL. The Browns and 49ers exist to today, the original Colts (I believe) only lasted for one season (1950) and then folded.

          Which is a shame, because an argument can be made that the AAFC was actually superior to the NFL.

          The entire AFL did merge with the NFL though.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @dutch-oven said:

          The AAFC didn't merge with the NFL, it folded and the NFL allowed three teams from the AAFC to join the NFL. The Browns and 49ers exist to today, the original Colts (I believe) only lasted for one season (1950) and then folded.

          Which is a shame, because an argument can be made that the AAFC was actually superior to the NFL.

          The entire AFL did merge with the NFL though.

          It is a considered a "merger" when teams in the AAFC joined the NFL.....but just not a "full" merger as happened 16 years later.  In essence, the AFL was the successor to the AAFC. 

          Note this:  

          Merger[edit]

          On December 9, 1949, two days before the AAFC title game, the two leagues made peace. Three AAFC teams were admitted to the NFL: the Browns, 49ers, and Colts. The Dons merged with the Rams,[27] while the Bills, Yankees and Hornets folded. The enlarged league was renamed the National–American Football League.

          Note that some AAFC teams actually merged with NFL counterparts...

          When the AFL started it put teams in some cities that the AAFC had teams, including second teams in both NY (AAFC had teams named the NY Yankees and the Brooklyn Dodgers...yes they were still following the habit of naming football teams after baseball teams)  LA (the LA Dons...essentially being replaced with the LA Chargers....who moved later to San Diego).....and Buffalo (the AAFC team was the Bills...as was the new AFL team.  Also...later the AFL added a team in Miami...which had been an AAFC city.

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            Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @poeticg said:

            Just as the AAFC was formed and later merged into the NFL, maybe this will be good. There needs to be some change injected into the NFL. Why would it need to stay the same forever... that would be boring. Switch it up, switch up the divisions. Add some teams in places that deserve a team. Change up the amount of games, the amount of players allowed per team, bring down the amount of money that any one player can make. Spread the wealth.

            Well, before you start merging this proposed new league with the NFL.....I think that this league must first get off the ground.  My own opinions are this:

            A.  It should follow the example of the AFL of some 60 years later....and play in the fall, not the spring.

            B. It should locate teams in cities that do not currently have NFL teams...even if that means playing in maybe college stadiums or older stadiums.   Cities should include those abandoned by the NFL:   St. Louis, San Diego....and maybe Sacramento instead of Oakland.   It should include other cities that are "major league", i.e. that have NBA or MLB teams:   Portland, Sacramento as noted,   Salt Lake City,   San Antonio, maybe Milwaukee, maybe Orlando,  Raleigh-Durham, Memphis, Oklahoma City.   It could try a couple of emerging major markets:   Norfolk/Va. Beach.  Hartford/New Haven, Louisville, Albuquerque, Birmingham.  It could also try to put teams in the top major markets:  SoCal team,  and NY area team,  maybe one in Ft. Worth.

            C. It should probably play by rules similar to the NFL......and not employ some of the gimmicks that the previous XFL tried.  One thing that it should bring back though that is lost in the NFL is the kickoff return. ...and a few others.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              So....now that Vince McMahon has made his announcement...what do you all think.   Some of my thoughts:

              A. As expected....he is going to  play ball.....really ...in the winter.     There will be 8 teams and they will play 10 games....starting in late January or early February.  If they began in early February....their season would be done in mid April.....so most of their games would be in winter.

              B. So, if they are going to play in winter, I guess it is fair to say that the league will only be a southern/dome league.  While as far as I am concerned, he would be smart to put a team in Northeast Ohio....I don't see him as being smart apparently.   

              C. So...what cities could he put teams in?   Perhaps those southern/western cities mentioned earlier?   Portland, Sacramento, San Antonio, Orlando. Birmingham etc.  Or will he just try to piggyback on current NFL cities.  Will he want the major markets of LA and NY...they all do.    Even if he does decide to put teams in the north/midwest....where can he put them?   Only like Detroit, Indy, and Minnesota have domes.  He could go into St. Louis.  He should.  I expect that since he is a showman in a phony sport at the moment he will probably want a team in Vegas. 

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                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                The XFL - Back By Zero Demand!

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                  nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                  Another flop on the horizon....

                  Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                    The XFL - Back By Zero Demand!

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    The XFL - Back By Zero Demand!

                    True. But as I said I think there could have been some demand if he had put teams to play in the fall and if he had put teams in cities like San Antonio, Portland, St. Louis, Memphis etc. Cities where there is now no NFL team

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                      NeroN Nero wrote on last edited by
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                      I'd be more excited if they brought back NFL Europe.

                      Anyway, any league that gives the opportunity to watch more football and find/rescue some valuable players is welcome. 

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                        I'd be more excited if they brought back NFL Europe.

                        Anyway, any league that gives the opportunity to watch more football and find/rescue some valuable players is welcome. 

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                        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                        @nero said:

                        I'd be more excited if they brought back NFL Europe.

                        Anyway, any league that gives the opportunity to watch more football and find/rescue some valuable players is welcome. 

                        Am I remembering correctly - was it the Barcelona Dragons?

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                          I'd be more excited if they brought back NFL Europe.

                          Anyway, any league that gives the opportunity to watch more football and find/rescue some valuable players is welcome. 

                          Am I remembering correctly - was it the Barcelona Dragons?

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          Am I remembering correctly - was it the Barcelona Dragons?

                          You are.

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                            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                              Playing in the fall would be a horrible idea.  It's the same reason the usfl failed. You're not going to compete with NCAAF and the NFL head to head

                              http://fortune.com/2017/09/24/donald-trump-nfl-usfl/

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                                The XFL returns with a new look and philosophu in 2020.

                                The NFL has become the thug league that the XFLonce was. The NFL has shot themselves in the foot catering to malignant protests, criminal players and political  posturing.

                                There is not one Browns fan who os proud of this franchise or enjoys football Sunday after the game.

                                Clearly the Browns franchise is at itxs lowest comparative value wince ot entered the NFL. Clearly it is makong more financial sense to fold tjos franchse, move it, and rename it. This is going to happen. I know it and so do you. This turdfest is not sustainable and no NFL exec looks into the league's future and sees Cleveland in it.

                                So why not be ahead of the game for a change? Why not be proactive? Shut Haslam down. Force hom to take this bag of schidt fake Browns team to another city.

                                Then, negotiate a deal and put an XFL team in Cleveland. Hell, call it the Browns. 

                                Think of it as a true rebirth of Paul Brown. Bring history and tradition to tjenew league and be the first XFL team to beat an NFL team.

                                Why continue this mental masturbation and suffer another rin at 0-16?

                                The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                    At this point I just feel a great swell of pity for this fat bastard.  

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      Just quit feeding this guy, Shmuck..

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        Yup.  Haslam has delivered a bad product.  To the fans and his customers.  Maybe he'll get to go to jail.  Then maybe his son in-law can meddle with the team.

                                        The new league will be for NFL cast-offs and practice squad wanna-be's.  

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                                          The XFL returns with a new look and philosophu in 2020.

                                          The NFL has become the thug league that the XFLonce was. The NFL has shot themselves in the foot catering to malignant protests, criminal players and political  posturing.

                                          There is not one Browns fan who os proud of this franchise or enjoys football Sunday after the game.

                                          Clearly the Browns franchise is at itxs lowest comparative value wince ot entered the NFL. Clearly it is makong more financial sense to fold tjos franchse, move it, and rename it. This is going to happen. I know it and so do you. This turdfest is not sustainable and no NFL exec looks into the league's future and sees Cleveland in it.

                                          So why not be ahead of the game for a change? Why not be proactive? Shut Haslam down. Force hom to take this bag of schidt fake Browns team to another city.

                                          Then, negotiate a deal and put an XFL team in Cleveland. Hell, call it the Browns. 

                                          Think of it as a true rebirth of Paul Brown. Bring history and tradition to tjenew league and be the first XFL team to beat an NFL team.

                                          Why continue this mental masturbation and suffer another rin at 0-16?

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                                          L LionOfBuddha wrote on last edited by LionOfBuddha
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                                          @ghoolie said:

                                          The XFL returns with a new look and philosophu in 2020.

                                          The NFL has become the thug league that the XFLonce was. The NFL has shot themselves in the foot catering to malignant protests, criminal players and political  posturing.

                                          There is not one Browns fan who os proud of this franchise or enjoys football Sunday after the game.

                                          Clearly the Browns franchise is at itxs lowest comparative value wince ot entered the NFL. Clearly it is makong more financial sense to fold tjos franchse, move it, and rename it. This is going to happen. I know it and so do you. This turdfest is not sustainable and no NFL exec looks into the league's future and sees Cleveland in it.

                                          So why not be ahead of the game for a change? Why not be proactive? Shut Haslam down. Force hom to take this bag of schidt fake Browns team to another city.

                                          Then, negotiate a deal and put an XFL team in Cleveland. Hell, call it the Browns. 

                                          Think of it as a true rebirth of Paul Brown. Bring history and tradition to tjenew league and be the first XFL team to beat an NFL team.

                                          Why continue this mental masturbation and suffer another rin at 0-16?

                                          Ghoolie... you’re a smart guy. Certainly smart enough to realize money rules everything.

                                          You really think one billionaire is going to beat out 32 billionaires? It’s not happening.

                                          As for the political climate, Trump understands this truth. That’s why he knows the best way to save western civilization is to defund the left.

                                          The owners are simply pandering to keep the masses happy. We as a country won’t always be this PC. This is coming from a millennial. My generation is waking up.

                                          The NFL isn’t going anywhere. Neither are the Browns. The owners revenue share, plus back in the Jim Brown days, soldiers at war would listen to football and the only team ever on was the Browns. The soldiers went home Browns fans, and now there are Browns backers all over the nation.

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