2018 QB Class
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Pluto is great.. I miss Hal Lebovits.. He was a thousand times better.....
Damn... had not thought of Hal in forever. Yes... used to love his reads.
Then there was Dan "The Sock" Coughlin... the 60's/70's version of Tony Grossi.
Just curious Bob, but why do you feel Rosen needs to play in a dome?
Imma guess "hot tub"... Let me know if I win.
Damn... had not thought of Hal in forever. Yes... used to love his reads.
Then there was Dan "The Sock" Coughlin... the 60's/70's version of Tony Grossi.
Imma guess "hot tub"... Let me know if I win.
Your talking about the same portly man who was on TV8 Sports , correct?. That Dan Coughlin?
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Damn... had not thought of Hal in forever. Yes... used to love his reads.
Then there was Dan "The Sock" Coughlin... the 60's/70's version of Tony Grossi.
Imma guess "hot tub"... Let me know if I win.
Your talking about the same portly man who was on TV8 Sports , correct?. That Dan Coughlin?
Your talking about the same portly man who was on TV8 Sports , correct?. That Dan Coughlin?
Coughlin is still around. I just saw him in a feature a couple of weeks ago. I never thought he was much good....and based on recent viewing...that has not changed.
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Sam Darnold -
- Good size. Has kind of a long, looping throwing motion....but he does it really fast so it's not as big of a deal as it could be (unless you're a DE with a nice long wing-span). I'm not thinking that QB Mechanics School would have much of an effect on his motion. He's done growed up with it
and it'll be there when the bullets start flying.
Josh Rosen -
- Tall but skinny. Has a nice tight throwing motion. Gets it out quickly. Has had a couple of concussions. Looks like he could be easily broken if dropped. He would probably prefer we don't draft him. (get in the lengthy line pal)Josh Allen -
- Pretty good size. Pretty good throwing motion. Not as fast getting the ball out as Rosen but ok. Didn't really have to fight the heavy-weight contenders to get to the title fight. Completion percentage follows him like a dark cloud.Baker Mayfield -
- The runt of the litter. Reminds me of Manziel (but doesn't live to run as much). Makes off balance throws (sometimes when he doesn't have to). Knows how to avoid the rush and get out where LB'ers feel like they're in nowhere land. (at what maturity level is his head at though?) - I have to say here that there was one game that Manziel played for us where I actually enjoyed watching the Browns offense. Although Pettine wanted him to stay in the pocket and get killed, he used his internal clock properly and got out of the crumbling pocket and into open space where you could just 'feel' the defense $hittin' their pants. - Then again, I enjoyed watching Kosar too.
Obviously, the fate of these guys depend on what happens in free agency. (perhaps a couple of 'em will be sending a letter to Cousins telling him how nice the colors orange & brown look together)
IMO, they all throw the ball well enough to play NFL football. But it might be a difficult decision deciding who will deliver the MOST value in terms of talent, longevity, leadership and professionalism. I'd support any choice with the warning that Mayfield's maturity level will have to be researched THOROUGHLY...because we ARE the team that suffered the Manziel thing. (Billy)
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Darnold and Rosen have played head to head. Rosen was obviously and clearly better as a QB. He sits in the pocket better, he's more accurate, and is more polished.
I highly suggest watching that game film and make your own decision. Dorsey seemed to choose very well last year with Mahomes and Hunt, so that's a good sign for the Browns. I don't even care who they get #1, as long as he turns out to be THE GUY. It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down, or drafting QB's at #22, or whatever. Get the best guy and take a shot for once.
Side note- didn't Kerry Collins have a similar throwing motion to Darnold?
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Darnold and Rosen have played head to head. Rosen was obviously and clearly better as a QB. He sits in the pocket better, he's more accurate, and is more polished.
I highly suggest watching that game film and make your own decision. Dorsey seemed to choose very well last year with Mahomes and Hunt, so that's a good sign for the Browns. I don't even care who they get #1, as long as he turns out to be THE GUY. It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down, or drafting QB's at #22, or whatever. Get the best guy and take a shot for once.
Side note- didn't Kerry Collins have a similar throwing motion to Darnold?
It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down
Absolutely.
A couple of years ago I was almost giddy because I knew that we would get one of the two best QB's in the draft and FINALLY man the position. Well, we didn't. So even though there are 4 to choose from...and THIS time we're under new management...I'm still once shot and twice shy.
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It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down
Absolutely.
A couple of years ago I was almost giddy because I knew that we would get one of the two best QB's in the draft and FINALLY man the position. Well, we didn't. So even though there are 4 to choose from...and THIS time we're under new management...I'm still once shot and twice shy.
Absolutely.
A couple of years ago I was almost giddy because I knew that we would get one of the two best QB's in the draft and FINALLY man the position. Well, we didn't. So even though there are 4 to choose from...and THIS time we're under new management...I'm still once shot and twice shy.
Don't worry. If Smith vetoed a trade to the Browns, you really think Cousins is coming here, regardless of how much loot we throw at him?
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Darnold and Rosen have played head to head. Rosen was obviously and clearly better as a QB. He sits in the pocket better, he's more accurate, and is more polished.
I highly suggest watching that game film and make your own decision. Dorsey seemed to choose very well last year with Mahomes and Hunt, so that's a good sign for the Browns. I don't even care who they get #1, as long as he turns out to be THE GUY. It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down, or drafting QB's at #22, or whatever. Get the best guy and take a shot for once.
Side note- didn't Kerry Collins have a similar throwing motion to Darnold?
Darnold and Rosen have played head to head. Rosen was obviously and clearly better as a QB. He sits in the pocket better, he's more accurate, and is more polished.
I highly suggest watching that game film and make your own decision. Dorsey seemed to choose very well last year with Mahomes and Hunt, so that's a good sign for the Browns. I don't even care who they get #1, as long as he turns out to be THE GUY. It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down, or drafting QB's at #22, or whatever. Get the best guy and take a shot for once.
Side note- didn't Kerry Collins have a similar throwing motion to Darnold?
wtf are your passive aggressive remarks about Donald all about on the Alex Smith thread you said that Donald did not want to be here(which was a Shmucking lie) and now comparing him to Collins ? where do you pull this Sheet from ?
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Darnold and Rosen have played head to head. Rosen was obviously and clearly better as a QB. He sits in the pocket better, he's more accurate, and is more polished.
I highly suggest watching that game film and make your own decision. Dorsey seemed to choose very well last year with Mahomes and Hunt, so that's a good sign for the Browns. I don't even care who they get #1, as long as he turns out to be THE GUY. It's been too damn long, and we're all sick of trading down, or drafting QB's at #22, or whatever. Get the best guy and take a shot for once.
Side note- didn't Kerry Collins have a similar throwing motion to Darnold?
wtf are your passive aggressive remarks about Donald all about on the Alex Smith thread you said that Donald did not want to be here(which was a Shmucking lie) and now comparing him to Collins ? where do you pull this Sheet from ?
wtf are your passive aggressive remarks about Donald all about on the Alex Smith thread you said that Donald did not want to be here(which was a Shmucking lie) and now comparing him to Collins ? where do you pull this Sheet from ?
I asked if his long throwing motion (which is supposedly a con on his scouting report... just like leadership/attitude is con on Rosen's report) was similar to Kerry Collins. Only reason I remember Collins, is I remember a buddy of mine hated him with a passion for that exact reason. He's PSU fan, and me being a Buckeyes fan, we sued to talk Sheet about each school's draft picks.
Not once did I compare him to Collins as a player, so don't put words in my mouth.
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Good listen.
https://soundcloud.com/user-465540614Joe Marino likes Rosen the best, Mayfield second best.
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Good listen.
https://soundcloud.com/user-465540614Joe Marino likes Rosen the best, Mayfield second best.
Good listen.
https://soundcloud.com/user-465540614Joe Marino likes Rosen the best, Mayfield second best.
Never mind I found it.
Also a good talk on who to take @ #4.
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Absolutely.
A couple of years ago I was almost giddy because I knew that we would get one of the two best QB's in the draft and FINALLY man the position. Well, we didn't. So even though there are 4 to choose from...and THIS time we're under new management...I'm still once shot and twice shy.
Don't worry. If Smith vetoed a trade to the Browns, you really think Cousins is coming here, regardless of how much loot we throw at him?
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Absolutely.
A couple of years ago I was almost giddy because I knew that we would get one of the two best QB's in the draft and FINALLY man the position. Well, we didn't. So even though there are 4 to choose from...and THIS time we're under new management...I'm still once shot and twice shy.
Don't worry. If Smith vetoed a trade to the Browns, you really think Cousins is coming here, regardless of how much loot we throw at him?
Don't worry. If Smith vetoed a trade to the Browns, you really think Cousins is coming here, regardless of how much loot we throw at him?
Money talks but the price has become too high for Cousins. Dorsey already made those big money mistakes at KC. Will he repeat it for short term gains?
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Coughlin is still around. I just saw him in a feature a couple of weeks ago. I never thought he was much good....and based on recent viewing...that has not changed.
I thought he was funny more than anything else and he at least gave the impression he belted down a few beers at an Irish pub somewhere before his set.LOL
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Sam Darnold -
- Good size. Has kind of a long, looping throwing motion....but he does it really fast so it's not as big of a deal as it could be (unless you're a DE with a nice long wing-span). I'm not thinking that QB Mechanics School would have much of an effect on his motion. He's done growed up with it and it'll be there when the bullets start flying.
Josh Rosen -
- Tall but skinny. Has a nice tight throwing motion. Gets it out quickly. Has had a couple of concussions. Looks like he could be easily broken if dropped. He would probably prefer we don't draft him. (get in the lengthy line pal)Josh Allen -
- Pretty good size. Pretty good throwing motion. Not as fast getting the ball out as Rosen but ok. Didn't really have to fight the heavy-weight contenders to get to the title fight. Completion percentage follows him like a dark cloud.Baker Mayfield -
- The runt of the litter. Reminds me of Manziel (but doesn't live to run as much). Makes off balance throws (sometimes when he doesn't have to). Knows how to avoid the rush and get out where LB'ers feel like they're in nowhere land. (at what maturity level is his head at though?) - I have to say here that there was one game that Manziel played for us where I actually enjoyed watching the Browns offense. Although Pettine wanted him to stay in the pocket and get killed, he used his internal clock properly and got out of the crumbling pocket and into open space where you could just 'feel' the defense $hittin' their pants. - Then again, I enjoyed watching Kosar too.
Obviously, the fate of these guys depend on what happens in free agency. (perhaps a couple of 'em will be sending a letter to Cousins telling him how nice the colors orange & brown look together)
IMO, they all throw the ball well enough to play NFL football. But it might be a difficult decision deciding who will deliver the MOST value in terms of talent, longevity, leadership and professionalism. I'd support any choice with the warning that Mayfield's maturity level will have to be researched THOROUGHLY...because we ARE the team that suffered the Manziel thing. (Billy)
"... but he does it really fast..."
lol... What's the saying? "Damning with faint praise"?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Good listen.
https://soundcloud.com/user-465540614Joe Marino likes Rosen the best, Mayfield second best.
Never mind I found it.
Also a good talk on who to take @ #4.
Never mind I found it.
Also a good talk on who to take @ #4.
Sorry, probably should've mentioned you needed to scroll down to find the right podcasts.
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Dan Coughlin is a typical outspoken Irishman an old favorite of many of us other old Irishmen in NE Ohio. He could not be called boring.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Coughlin is still around. I just saw him in a feature a couple of weeks ago. I never thought he was much good....and based on recent viewing...that has not changed.
I thought he was funny more than anything else and he at least gave the impression he belted down a few beers at an Irish pub somewhere before his set.LOL
I thought he was funny more than anything else and he at least gave the impression he belted down a few beers at an Irish pub somewhere before his set.LOL
What consists of a seven-course Irish meal?
A six-pack of beer and a potato.
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What consists of a seven-course Irish meal?
A six-pack of beer and a potato.
Close to the same here in Texas. 6 pack and potato CHIPS.
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