Chiefs Trade Alex Smith to the Skins
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Seriously, what 'valued' veteran QB in their right mind would WANT to come to the Browns? We're 1-31....and we KEPT the coach that got us there.
We really have only the draft option.......and/or a Josh McCown type.
I agree. It appears we are looking at drafting a QB and having to wait at least two seasons for the fruits of the draft. Cleveland just isn't lucky at the QB position and cannot land that quality sleeper QB, like Prescott in Dallas, that will be successful. It appears the Browns will be forced to stick with it's "veteran" QB Kizer for as long as Hue is in Cleveland then Kizer will be the starting QB. May be the Browns can spend some of the salary cap $$$$ on some quality play makers in the receiving corp. In either case I don't expect a turn around season this year but I'd be happy with 2 to 4 wins.
I agree. It appears we are looking at drafting a QB and having to wait at least two seasons for the fruits of the draft. Cleveland just isn't lucky at the QB position and cannot land that quality sleeper QB, like Prescott in Dallas, that will be successful. It appears the Browns will be forced to stick with it's "veteran" QB Kizer for as long as Hue is in Cleveland then Kizer will be the starting QB. May be the Browns can spend some of the salary cap $$$$ on some quality play makers in the receiving corp. In either case I don't expect a turn around season this year
but I'd be happy with 2 to 4 wins.10-16 wins will make us happy.
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I agree. It appears we are looking at drafting a QB and having to wait at least two seasons for the fruits of the draft. Cleveland just isn't lucky at the QB position and cannot land that quality sleeper QB, like Prescott in Dallas, that will be successful. It appears the Browns will be forced to stick with it's "veteran" QB Kizer for as long as Hue is in Cleveland then Kizer will be the starting QB. May be the Browns can spend some of the salary cap $$$$ on some quality play makers in the receiving corp. In either case I don't expect a turn around season this year
but I'd be happy with 2 to 4 wins.10-16 wins will make us happy.
10-16 wins will make us happy.
So we'd have to wait till 2025 to accumulate that may wins!!!!
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Do you imagine anyone really wants to play in Cleveland? Really?
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do. And Darnold hasn't been negative on the idea. Some are smart enough to know the money is better for the #1 overall. Garrett quickly denied the pleading to Jerrah was anything more than a joke with the team that was mere blocks from where he grew up and played. And he still says he wants to be part of the Browns turnaround.
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him.....
That didn't exactly help your argument
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More than I thought Steve. Knew about Berwanger, but that's ancient history.
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Am I the only person who is having a hard time swallowing the idea that the Browns suck so bad that teams are refusing to send their players to Cleveland out of respect for the players they are trying to trade, even when the Browns make the best offer?
Am I the only person who is having a hard time swallowing the idea that the Browns suck so bad that teams are refusing to send their players to Cleveland out of respect for the players they are trying to trade, even when the Browns make the best offer?
Again...I think that people are missing a potential nuance concerning the Chiefs/Redskins deal. The deal, to me had 3 parts:
A. Chiefs wanted a reasonably high draft pick
B. Chiefs wanted a good player.
C. Washington wanted somewhat long term stability.
So, what happened? Chiefs said: give us your #3, and one of the Top Ten rated CBs in the league from this last year (that was a PFF stat that I read about above). Redskins said: It is a CONDITION of us trading that package to you that Smith agree to a longer term deal with us. Without the agreement on that long term deal....we withdraw our offer of a 3rd rounder and a fairly top notch DB.
So...what could the Browns NOT offer: a fairly top notch DB to go along with the trade.....nor could they elicit an agreement that Smith sign a longer term deal with them. The Browns don't have a DB to offer them, nor would Smith agree to a long term contract with the Browns.
You can say all you want about Smith having no control in this trade.....but he does have control over who he signs with long term.
And the Browns are not stupid enough to want to trade like a first rounder or even the #33 for a guy they really had no interest in keeping long term.
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JFF called them up and asked them to draft him.....
That didn't exactly help your argument
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Do you imagine anyone really wants to play in Cleveland? Really?
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do. And Darnold hasn't been negative on the idea. Some are smart enough to know the money is better for the #1 overall. Garrett quickly denied the pleading to Jerrah was anything more than a joke with the team that was mere blocks from where he grew up and played. And he still says he wants to be part of the Browns turnaround.
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Do you imagine anyone really wants to play in Cleveland? Really?
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do. And Darnold hasn't been negative on the idea. Some are smart enough to know the money is better for the #1 overall. Garrett quickly denied the pleading to Jerrah was anything more than a joke with the team that was mere blocks from where he grew up and played. And he still says he wants to be part of the Browns turnaround.
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do. And Darnold hasn't been negative on the idea. Some are smart enough to know the money is better for the #1 overall. Garrett quickly denied the pleading to Jerrah was anything more than a joke with the team that was mere blocks from where he grew up and played. And he still says he wants to be part of the Browns turnaround.
He called the homeless guy via the Salvation Army, who related it to Haslam.
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Tell that to Elway, Kosar, Peyton.
Let's take this in reverse order. I hope you meant Payton's little brother Eli goober, because Payton was drafted by the Colts, and played for the Colts. The Chargers got a pretty good consolation prize in Phillip Rivers.
When Kosar pulled that fast one to get drafted by the Browns- the NFL changed the rules.
Elway was a much sought after baseball prospect- so he had that as leverage.
Three times it's happened in 35 years. Unlikely to happen again, with the current interview & private workouts. We'll know way before the draft if a player doesn't want to play for us. LOL what ya gonna do if Barkley tells everyone- I'd rather not play in Cleveland?
Let's take this in reverse order. I hope you meant Payton's little brother Eli goober, because Payton was drafted by the Colts, and played for the Colts. The Chargers got a pretty good consolation prize in Phillip Rivers.
When Kosar pulled that fast one to get drafted by the Browns- the NFL changed the rules.
Elway was a much sought after baseball prospect- so he had that as leverage.
Three times it's happened in 35 years. Unlikely to happen again, with the current interview & private workouts. We'll know way before the draft if a player doesn't want to play for us. LOL what ya gonna do if Barkley tells everyone- I'd rather not play in Cleveland?
Some people just get confused with the facts.
.......but Bernie was one of the best snooker deals in NFL history, oh yeah to play for his boyhood favorite team, the team he loved to root for the Cleveland BROWNS. So I guess you can throw out a lot of the other things like "do you want to play in Cleveland".
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JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do.
By the way....not to be saying Beetlejuice 3 times....JFF was in the news. It was just announce yesterday that he and the Tiger Cats could not reach a deal by an imposed Jan. 31 deadline:
First....it seems to me that this deadline was completely arbitrary.....set up by JMZ's agent. Why the deadline?
Also...it seems like the money they were talking about wanting was like 500K. Not a lot in NFL terms...not sure about CFL terms. And though it was a "deadline"....they don't start CFL training camps until May....so they can still work it out.
I just don't know JFF would want to set such an arbitrary deadline....WTF does he think? That some NFL team will be knocking on his door? GUFFAWW!
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15.00 an hour, max
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JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do.
By the way....not to be saying Beetlejuice 3 times....JFF was in the news. It was just announce yesterday that he and the Tiger Cats could not reach a deal by an imposed Jan. 31 deadline:
First....it seems to me that this deadline was completely arbitrary.....set up by JMZ's agent. Why the deadline?
Also...it seems like the money they were talking about wanting was like 500K. Not a lot in NFL terms...not sure about CFL terms. And though it was a "deadline"....they don't start CFL training camps until May....so they can still work it out.
I just don't know JFF would want to set such an arbitrary deadline....WTF does he think? That some NFL team will be knocking on his door? GUFFAWW!
JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do.
By the way....not to be saying Beetlejuice 3 times....JFF was in the news. It was just announce yesterday that he and the Tiger Cats could not reach a deal by an imposed Jan. 31 deadline:
First....it seems to me that this deadline was completely arbitrary.....set up by JMZ's agent. Why the deadline?
Also...it seems like the money they were talking about wanting was like 500K. Not a lot in NFL terms...not sure about CFL terms. And though it was a "deadline"....they don't start CFL training camps until May....so they can still work it out.
I just don't know JFF would want to set such an arbitrary deadline....WTF does he think? That some NFL team will be knocking on his door? GUFFAWW!
I'm pretty sure 500K is a pretty nice chunk of change in the CFL... From what I saw on the Interwebs, the minimum salary for a CFL player is $41,000 a year, and all CFL teams operate on a $4.2 mill salary cap for their entire roster.
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JFF called them up and asked them to draft him, so yeah some players do.
By the way....not to be saying Beetlejuice 3 times....JFF was in the news. It was just announce yesterday that he and the Tiger Cats could not reach a deal by an imposed Jan. 31 deadline:
First....it seems to me that this deadline was completely arbitrary.....set up by JMZ's agent. Why the deadline?
Also...it seems like the money they were talking about wanting was like 500K. Not a lot in NFL terms...not sure about CFL terms. And though it was a "deadline"....they don't start CFL training camps until May....so they can still work it out.
I just don't know JFF would want to set such an arbitrary deadline....WTF does he think? That some NFL team will be knocking on his door? GUFFAWW!
I'm pretty sure 500K is a pretty nice chunk of change in the CFL... From what I saw on the Interwebs, the minimum salary for a CFL player is $41,000 a year, and all CFL teams operate on a $4.2 mill salary cap for their entire roster.
I'm pretty sure 500K is a pretty nice chunk of change in the CFL... From what I saw on the Interwebs, the minimum salary for a CFL player is $41,000 a year, and all CFL teams operate on a $4.2 mill salary cap for their entire roster.
Well....I think that is what JFF was wanting.....not what the Tiger Cats were offering. Read the link...but I don't think it says how far off they were.
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Almost four years later, I still can't believe the Browns drafted him.
With Bridgewater, Carr and Garappolo still on the board.
Sorry, I know, it's over, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
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Almost four years later, I still can't believe the Browns drafted him.
With Bridgewater, Carr and Garappolo still on the board.
Sorry, I know, it's over, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Almost four years later, I still can't believe the Browns drafted him.
With Bridgewater, Carr and Garappolo still on the board.
Sorry, I know, it's over, but maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
They...the Browns....and a lot of us bought into the hype.
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