Camp Barkley #1 Overall

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

Most everyone I've talked to in NE Ohio about the Browns and the Draft, are all on board with Barkley at #1 Overall. They recognize the talent.

It's only a small handful of people that are up in arms about the issue... You tend to think that a QB at #1 is going to fix everything... but what if that player turns out to be a bust?

Let's say that we do take Chosen injury prone Frozen #1 overall or maybe Ronald McDonald #1 and they bust. NY or the Colts take Barkley and he does in fact turn out to be a stud RB like many have projected. We reached for a bust prospect at #1 and then take bust on the #4 as well, could be an injury or maybe Fitzpatrick is a product of an outstanding Alabama team... then what? Does it go down as the biggest draft blunder of all time? 

[Ghoolie]

@tour2ma said:

Same thing many of us have been saying... we do not agree with you.

Flug's scenarios nailed it. If you pass on your QB at #1, then you have to hope he survives the next two picks because those are both going to be QBs... and more than likely the two QBs will be Darnold and Rosen... although probably in the more correct order.

Even the draft a monster for next to Garrett double team thing? Cause... you know... Sheldon?

Also note that he doesn't commit to a QB at #1. Has to keep his powder dry for future "critiques".

Quality troll there...

I have already named Mayfield as the best QB in this draft. If I could magically draft for the Browns, we would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now. We would have a QB, Julio Jones and better support players than we do now.

My comments were NOT about individuals other than for one fukcking time since the drafting of Jim Brown, taking the best goddamned player in the draft........ Barkley.

We were talking about how the browns could really make an impact. That IS by securing the #1, #2 anf then #4 or 5 pick to take the best WR in the draft.

However they do it, the Browns need to pick #1 and #2 to get the QB they want, and Barkley, and then pick high enough, #4 or #5 to get the top WR. If they stand pat and pick #1 and #4, then they will not have a remarkable draft and they won't make the gain that they need to make to build momentum. hye need a QB, RB and top WR along with Gordon to get moving. Next years #1, Coleman, and THomas, or whoerver else they can get value for, needs to be packaged and traded to get to #1 #2 and #4/5.

Sheldon is unremarkable.

[calfoxwc]

again - I like Barkley - who doesn't ? But it is a very excellent  rb draft. So, getting two other stars ? in other positions,

I would be happy with some of the other rb's in the 2nd round, maybe third. So, Barkley, is terrific, but if you aren't a team on

the verge of  being a complete team - I don't see any rb in the first round.

[Gunz41]

@ghoolie said:

I have already named Mayfield as the best QB in this draft. If I could magically draft for the Browns, we would be a hell of a lot better off than we are now. We would have a QB, Julio Jones and better support players than we do now.

My comments were NOT about individuals other than for one fukcking time since the drafting of Jim Brown, taking the best goddamned player in the draft........ Barkley.

We were talking about how the browns could really make an impact. That IS by securing the #1, #2 anf then #4 or 5 pick to take the best WR in the draft.

However they do it, the Browns need to pick #1 and #2 to get the QB they want, and Barkley, and then pick high enough, #4 or #5 to get the top WR. If they stand pat and pick #1 and #4, then they will not have a remarkable draft and they won't make the gain that they need to make to build momentum. hye need a QB, RB and top WR along with Gordon to get moving. Next years #1, Coleman, and THomas, or whoerver else they can get value for, needs to be packaged and traded to get to #1 #2 and #4/5.

Sheldon is unremarkable.

Again, you talk bad about them, and think you can get that kind of value.

Of course we all know that if you were in charge of the Browns, they would never lose a game, and Paxton Lynch would be the NFL MVP. He would have made Brady retire ( since he was never going to win last year, and could never win a playoff game again this year.

The kicker to your team would be, there would be no OL, ALL PLAYMAKERS, and either those playmakers would play defense too, or you wouldn't even have a defense. You would just let the other team score so you can go back on offense since defense doesn't matter.

Let me break it down for you. You know NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. You may be good in Vegas at bets or predictions, but the GAME, NADA ZILCH ZERO.

You talk terrible about the team you supposedly like, and just as bad about the city. They can't get any top FAs, but you would have kept Julio Jones and others. 

Congrats, besides being Nostradamus, you would be the best GM in history.

Without any hyperbole, you are the best at something, and it isn't anything football related, or prediction related, you are the best TROLL EVER, and one seriously funny dude. Reading your rants is funny, but you trying to act like you have a clue about football, HILARIOUS

Didn't you say you were done with the board, the Browns, FOOTBALL?

You know why I dont talk about violins or whatever it is that you play? Because I dont know anything about the subject. You should try that approach with a subject you know nothing about, FOOTBALL.

[PoeticG]

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

The biggest problem with this draft is that it just represents more of your dog slobbering over Barkley.

Beyond that....even if Barkley were that good...there is no effing way the Browns are going to invest both a first and second round pick on QBs.  And there is no way if they go with Barkley that they will take another RB in round 5..and a fullback in round 6.   And there is no way that they are going to invest another draft pick in a Kicker...even a 7th rounder.

So...overall...it is just a stupid draft....even if there may be perhaps a few decent picks in there to consider.  You basically ignore our primary needs in the defensive backfield.....and the help that we need at LB.

So...you wanted an opinion...honest one:   You have come up with a really dumb mock draft. 

[PoeticG]

@poeticg said:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

@the-gipper said:

The biggest problem with this draft is that it just represents more of your dog slobbering over Barkley.

Beyond that....even if Barkley were that good...there is no effing way the Browns are going to invest both a first and second round pick on QBs.  And there is no way if they go with Barkley that they will take another RB in round 5..and a fullback in round 6.   And there is no way that they are going to invest another draft pick in a Kicker...even a 7th rounder.

So...overall...it is just a stupid draft....even if there may be perhaps a few decent picks in there to consider.  You basically ignore our primary needs in the defensive backfield.....and the help that we need at LB.

So...you wanted an opinion...honest one:   You have come up with a really dumb mock draft. 

1) We get the #1 RB on the draft that many compare to Barry Sanders.

2) We get your QBOTF in Mayfield and we only take Jackson because he's the BPA. He's a project and he's a damn intriguing prospect, already better than Kizer. 

3) Why not pick up a player like Bo in the 5th? Even if we take Barkley #1 we should get a bruiser so we don't wear him out to soon. Do you suggest running Duke Johnson up the gut on 4th and inches? We should protect our #1 investment and look for a way to sustain him LONGTERM. 

4) A FB and a HB are not the same things. Vitale hasn't done much and Flowers is Mayfield's guy. He's a do it all FB and he's an immediate upgrade. 

5) Gonzales isn't that great, he did better toward the end of the year but it's obvious he needs some competition, Carlson has been a fine kicker with a strong leg. 

6) We addressed the CB position with DUKE DAWSON. Peppers and Kindred will be fine in the backfield, who do you cut then? McCourty and Taylor and BBC? Wilson should be healthy and looked like a steal before his injury last year. The secondary will be much better once we get the front seven to make an impact. The best way to help the secondary isn't by throwing more players at it but by improving the pass rush causing errant or rushed passes. 

7) I addressed the front 7 by adding Vita Vea, a monster of a NT. Put him next to Shelton and we have the most Dominant DL in the game. Garrett, Vea, Shelton, Ogbah with Nassib and Orchard subbing in. 

Wynn was a dominate run blocking OG for Georgia, he'll be good insurance should anything happen to Bitonio or Zeitler. 

9) I also added TWO HUGE WRS to help compliment Josh Gordon. Think about Gordon, Brown and Cobbs with Coleman and Njoku? The rest of the teams in the NFL are ones who are going to need those secondary players you're slobbering over lol

What I just gave you is one of the best drafts of all time my friend. Oh, btw, how did it work out for Washington when they took RG3 in the first and then they also drafted Kirk Cousins around where I took Jackson? 

I even got another TE so we can replace Telfer. 

[JimboJones]

@poeticg said:

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2020 Round 1 Pick

Tell me what's wrong with this draft? This would be a huge upgrade. 

Vita Vea will go in the 10-20 range of round 1 and Isaiah Wynn is a late 1st/early 2nd round talent, not a 5th.

[PoeticG]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2755786-nfl-draft-2018-order-and-predictions-for-top-prospects-after-super-bowl-52

Barkley's best skill is his versatility. He can run between the tackles or on the outside, catch passes out of the backfield or stay in and protect the quarterback. He also scored two touchdowns on kickoff returns in 2017.

Regardless of where he goes, he should become a go-to option in the backfield and an immediate impact player.

This is exactly what the Giants need to kick-start the offense, especially if Eli Manning remains the team's starting quarterback. He can provide some balance to the roster and turn this talented group into a real threat.

Prediction: New York Giants

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- Even said he's better than Gurley and Zeke BoOM!! Mic drop

[Gunz41]

@poeticg said:

1) We get the #1 RB on the draft that many compare to Barry Sanders.

2) We get your QBOTF in Mayfield and we only take Jackson because he's the BPA. He's a project and he's a damn intriguing prospect, already better than Kizer. 

3) Why not pick up a player like Bo in the 5th? Even if we take Barkley #1 we should get a bruiser so we don't wear him out to soon. Do you suggest running Duke Johnson up the gut on 4th and inches? We should protect our #1 investment and look for a way to sustain him LONGTERM. 

4) A FB and a HB are not the same things. Vitale hasn't done much and Flowers is Mayfield's guy. He's a do it all FB and he's an immediate upgrade. 

5) Gonzales isn't that great, he did better toward the end of the year but it's obvious he needs some competition, Carlson has been a fine kicker with a strong leg. 

6) We addressed the CB position with DUKE DAWSON. Peppers and Kindred will be fine in the backfield, who do you cut then? McCourty and Taylor and BBC? Wilson should be healthy and looked like a steal before his injury last year. The secondary will be much better once we get the front seven to make an impact. The best way to help the secondary isn't by throwing more players at it but by improving the pass rush causing errant or rushed passes. 

7) I addressed the front 7 by adding Vita Vea, a monster of a NT. Put him next to Shelton and we have the most Dominant DL in the game. Garrett, Vea, Shelton, Ogbah with Nassib and Orchard subbing in. 

Wynn was a dominate run blocking OG for Georgia, he'll be good insurance should anything happen to Bitonio or Zeitler. 

9) I also added TWO HUGE WRS to help compliment Josh Gordon. Think about Gordon, Brown and Cobbs with Coleman and Njoku? The rest of the teams in the NFL are ones who are going to need those secondary players you're slobbering over lol

What I just gave you is one of the best drafts of all time my friend. Oh, btw, how did it work out for Washington when they took RG3 in the first and then they also drafted Kirk Cousins around where I took Jackson? 

I even got another TE so we can replace Telfer. 

Well your telling us that Barkley is the best player ever, so he doesn't need a No to get the short yardage, doesn't need the fullback to block for him, and won't wear out because he is that good.

And NO, you didn't take Jackson near where Cousins was taken, you see there are 7 rounds in the draft, and Cousins was a 4th rounder and NOT a 2nd. And taking Jackson is a wasted pick since you say Mayfield is the future.

And then there is the little bit about getting a DT and making it the best line in the league, Yea not close. And best receiving core, Na.

You seem to think that every guy you want to take is going to be the best player in the league. So asinine 

[PoeticG]

@gunz41 said:

Well your telling us that Barkley is the best player ever, so he doesn't need a No to get the short yardage, doesn't need the fullback to block for him, and won't wear out because he is that good.

And NO, you didn't take Jackson near where Cousins was taken, you see there are 7 rounds in the draft, and Cousins was a 4th rounder and NOT a 2nd. And taking Jackson is a wasted pick since you say Mayfield is the future.

And then there is the little bit about getting a DT and making it the best line in the league, Yea not close. And best receiving core, Na.

You seem to think that every guy you want to take is going to be the best player in the league. So asinine 

I don't like being a finger buuuuuut- Braaaahh, You don't make any sense... learn how to read- I'm actually embarrassed for you. 

1a) Your spew about Barkley- 100% FAKE NEWS. 

1b) I've said FOR YEARS that we need a capable FB so don't be a Gippin' Dutch Oven. 

1c) I've said repeatedly that getting Barkley will OPEN UP THE PASSING ATTACK- so the defense can't just worry about Gordon because they'll have to respect our run game. 

1d) I said that IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR #1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK (BARKLEY) IT WOULD BE BEST TO GET SOMEONE TO TAKE THE PUNISHING YARDS AND KEEP HIM PROTECTED! 

1e) Please reread section 1d.... What don't you comprehend about that? 

2a) The selection of Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the 2nd round- taken with the pick we get from the Eagles. AND- get this, since the Eagles just won the Superbowl, the pick we get from them is basically, get this- A THIRD ROUNDER NOW! 

2b) Getting Jackson to run some wild dawg offense could really throw the defense for a loop. They'd have to contend against the regular offense and then you bring in Jackson(who's been compared to Vick), all of a sudden they are unsure of how to defend. Watch the QB? Double Gordon? Saquon? Njoku? - use your imagination.

3) I really don't care what you think about our Defensive Line. As a matter of fact, our front seven is "titties"- and getting Vea to go next to Shelton in the middle would be the "nipple on the titty".  Jamie Collins and Ogbah coming back healthy added to Vea and Shelton with Garrett... go home gunz, your drunk.   

[Dutch Oven]

Gunz, don't bother.

PoG is very comfortable being this board's village idiot. Just let him blather on and on about the same things.

[PoeticG]

Listen Linda- listen, Linda, Linda. Listen to this Linda.  

[calfoxwc]

@poeticg said:

Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Vita Vea, DT, Washington (A-)
Round 2 Pick 31: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A)
Round 4 Pick 23: Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Isaiah Wynn, OG, Georgia (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

Barkley is terrific, but again, the Browns need a power back. That isn't Barkley.

I like the Baker Mayfield pick, if the giants don't pick him first.

St. Brown - saw a few games - not impressed. From "withthefirstpick.com"...

Someone with his size who doesn’t high point the ball has less value. His speed helps, but St. Brown isn’t a true burner and needs to learn how to use his length more effectively.He also must develop a better overall feel for his route running. Too often, he initiates contact with the defender while running his routes. This disrupts the timing of the throw and makes life harder on the quarterback.For his size, he doesn’t consistently contribute as a run blocker. His lack of physicality is likely a source of frustration for the coaching staff.

He's lacking intensity - love for the game - not on my possibilities list.

Vita Vea - won't be there they say , he's a first rounder. 

Mike Gesicki could go in the 2nd maybe, if he is in the fourth round, I could see it.

Lamar Jackson - outstanding talent in college, not ready for the NFL. Better to draft Logan Woodside out of Toledo. I watched him compete in the college all-stars competition - in the accuracy passing - stationary and moving targets, he hit all the marks and ended up second on the competion - rosenbum was first only by two seconds, and where Woodside hit both moving distance targets, rosenbum completely missed the one, and hit the bottom of the other. woodside hit both, nailed the bullseye in the middle. You can probably get Woodside later in the draft - if he impresses at the combine - he could go in the fifth round? He isn't all that fast speed wise. If that is what you want, then you do have to go with Jackson instead.

Duke Dawson is a nice pick - he's only 5' 10", but plays bigger. It's said he's a nickle back. Need a bigtime shutdown cb earlier.

Too bad Simmie Cobbs has red flags on him - had a major confrontation with police at a concert. Ankle injury - law trouble could have been a drinking one time only out of character thing.  Rather take a chance on a tall high character sleeper wr. Also, speed and separation are a concern.

Isaiah Wynn is a serious player - bit short, 6'2", but is very athletic, could even play center. His workouts have him nearing the first round though - probably second, maybe third. He will never fall to the fifth round.

Bo Scarborough rb - I would love this pick, except he has never played a full season due to injuries. and he's a rb. I don't see drafting two rb's in this draft. Walter fb has him rated the 18th rb.

Dimitri Flowers, FB, Sure, nice pick.

Daniel Carlson, K, whatever. seventh round. he isn't better than what we have now.

I'd give your draft a D+, depending.

[The Gipper]

@poeticg said:

1) We get the #1 RB on the draft that many compare to Barry Sanders.

Only in your mind.

2) We get your QBOTF in Mayfield and we only take Jackson because he's the BPA. He's a project and he's a damn intriguing prospect, already better than Kizer. 

Intriguing is not a reason to take someone when you have other needs.

3) Why not pick up a player like Bo in the 5th? Even if we take Barkley #1 we should get a bruiser so we don't wear him out to soon. Do you suggest running Duke Johnson up the gut on 4th and inches? We should protect our #1 investment and look for a way to sustain him LONGTERM. 

If you took Barkley...he is the guy you run up the middle.....fool.

4) A FB and a HB are not the same things. Vitale hasn't done much and Flowers is Mayfield's guy. He's a do it all FB and he's an immediate upgrade. 

But...you are wasting a draft pick.  Vitale is probably just as good.

5) Gonzales isn't that great, he did better toward the end of the year but it's obvious he needs some competition, Carlson has been a fine kicker with a strong leg. 

We can get a dozen of them as UDFA if that is what you think.

6) We addressed the CB position with DUKE DAWSON. Peppers and Kindred will be fine in the backfield, who do you cut then? McCourty and Taylor and BBC? Wilson should be healthy and looked like a steal before his injury last year. The secondary will be much better once we get the front seven to make an impact. The best way to help the secondary isn't by throwing more players at it but by improving the pass rush causing errant or rushed passes. 

7) I addressed the front 7 by adding Vita Vea, a monster of a NT. Put him next to Shelton and we have the most Dominant DL in the game. Garrett, Vea, Shelton, Ogbah with Nassib and Orchard subbing in. 

Wynn was a dominate run blocking OG for Georgia, he'll be good insurance should anything happen to Bitonio or Zeitler. 

9) I also added TWO HUGE WRS to help compliment Josh Gordon. Think about Gordon, Brown and Cobbs with Coleman and Njoku? The rest of the teams in the NFL are ones who are going to need those secondary players you're slobbering over lol

These  last 4 are just roster fodder.

What I just gave you is one of the best drafts of all time my friend. Oh, btw, how did it work out for Washington when they took RG3 in the first and then they also drafted Kirk Cousins around where I took Jackson? 

They took Cousins in round 4...not in round 2.  If Jackson were there in round 4...then I would not have as much problem with it.

What you gave us was a pile of horseshite.

I even got another TE so we can replace Telfer. 

Telfer was like a 7th round pick....so you got another Telfer.

[The Gipper]

@dutch-oven said:

Gunz, don't bother.

PoG is very comfortable being this board's village idiot. Just let him blather on and on about the same things.

If he is the Village Idiot...and he is...what does that make Glommie?

[Gunz41]

@the-gipper said:

If he is the Village Idiot...and he is...what does that make Glommie?

Village ignoramus instead of how he views himself as Nostradamus 

[Gunz41]

@poeticg said:

I don't like being a finger buuuuuut- Braaaahh, You don't make any sense... learn how to read- I'm actually embarrassed for you. 

1a) Your spew about Barkley- 100% FAKE NEWS. 

1b) I've said FOR YEARS that we need a capable FB so don't be a Gippin' Dutch Oven. 

1c) I've said repeatedly that getting Barkley will OPEN UP THE PASSING ATTACK- so the defense can't just worry about Gordon because they'll have to respect our run game. 

1d) I said that IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR #1 OVERALL DRAFT PICK (BARKLEY) IT WOULD BE BEST TO GET SOMEONE TO TAKE THE PUNISHING YARDS AND KEEP HIM PROTECTED! 

1e) Please reread section 1d.... What don't you comprehend about that? 

2a) The selection of Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the 2nd round- taken with the pick we get from the Eagles. AND- get this, since the Eagles just won the Superbowl, the pick we get from them is basically, get this- A THIRD ROUNDER NOW! 

2b) Getting Jackson to run some wild dawg offense could really throw the defense for a loop. They'd have to contend against the regular offense and then you bring in Jackson(who's been compared to Vick), all of a sudden they are unsure of how to defend. Watch the QB? Double Gordon? Saquon? Njoku? - use your imagination.

3) I really don't care what you think about our Defensive Line. As a matter of fact, our front seven is "titties"- and getting Vea to go next to Shelton in the middle would be the "nipple on the titty".  Jamie Collins and Ogbah coming back healthy added to Vea and Shelton with Garrett... go home gunz, your drunk.   

Exactly what have I spewed about Barkley that is "fake news". He has not done ONE THING in the NFL and you are claiming him best thing ever. Your talk on him is the fake news. IF he ends up the best player of ALL TIME, what you are saying now is STILL fake news, as he hasn't proven ANYTHING as of yet. 

And if the Browns draft Barkley and 5 seconds after they do that they pick up the phone and call Rams and offer Barkley for Gurley, they would get laughed at and hung up on. Why? Because he hasn't proven ANYTHING.

How many times in the past has there been this "can't miss" prospect who didn't do a thing. But Barkley is immune to that apparently.

And yes, the way you talk about all these guys, you act as though every one of them will be the best player at their position. You say solve DB's with a 3rd rounder, a DT would turn the Browns into the best DL in the league, and every other team would fear the Browns receiving core. 

I'm not even saying a FB or kicker is a bad late round pick, if you can get contributors late, that is even better.

But YOU have told us Barkley is the best and can do everything better than anyone, so he can run in between the tackles and short yardage. And he is so great and the only pick and best, so there is no concern over injury.

And then the QBs, you say Mayfield is the future, but you want to spend a 2nd rounder on a player that will be used in a package a couple plays a game, and half of them as a diversion. And exactly why would you even use 1 pick on a QB when you have the franchise guy in Kevin Hogan? The team has A LOT OF NEEDS, you see they were 0-16. But i guess with Barkley, they will finally keep that champagne on ice for the Dolphins, and wont lose another game for 10 years.

I mean how can they lose? Best QB, Best RB, Best receiving core, top OL, Best DL, good LB and a fixed DB. And let's not forget the best kicker in the draft.

Don't worry gentlemen, he finally fixed the team, and by this time next year, the Browns will be celebrating a Super Bowl. And all the awards will be Browns players, and Barkley will have broken the rushing record, Josh Gordon the receiving record, and Hogan/Mayfield will both have HUGE seasons, and Jackson will make a BIG impact.

[hoorta]

@the-gipper said:

If he is the Village Idiot...and he is...what does that make Glommie?

Regarding Po, a stopped clock is right twice a day... He got Carr & Honey badger right, but sheeze Louise, Hogan (never seen that much love for a third string qb that was inactive for a bunch of games) and Richardson (who was the bestest beastest RB even after he was out of the NFL. That was until Barkley came along) more than cancel that out. 

@gunz41 said:

Village ignoramus instead of how he views himself as Nostradamus 

+ Court Jester...  

[The Gipper]

@hoorta said:

Regarding Po, a stopped clock is right twice a day... He got Carr & Honey badger right, but sheeze Louise, Hogan (never seen that much love for a third string qb that was inactive for a bunch of games) and Richardson (who was the bestest beastest RB even after he was out of the NFL. That was until Barkley came along) more than cancel that out. 

+ Court Jester...  

I think you nailed it.  Boy if this don't look like him, and that looks like an effigy of Swagger he is holding.