Article on Mangini - Opinions?
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And your point is????
When you win you're a genius, when you lose your either a dumb ass coffee fetcher or have a terrible GM....
One man does not create a winner, it's a combination of many levels of management.... It doesn't hurt to have a well established group of veterans playing in the same system year after year either....
peace
T.Dawg
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I'm not anti-Mangini, just reading everthing posted here about the great things he does, and wondered how this board would respond to an article that doesn't claim the genius of Mangini.
The regulars didn't disappoint!
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@jadbf said:
you get one reply and you feel vindicated?? ROFLI actually didn't comment because I didn't read this article as all that negative and actually quite true. Mangini likely still has a good bit to learn about being a championship caliber coach. Hopefully he'll learn it all.
No No No!! The LACK of response is what i found interesting.
And it's not negative. It's just NOT saying that everything is great and he has completely turned around this team.
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I didn't respond because the article didn't really have much of a point, if someone can summarize it correctly, please do.
There is no one perfect, foolproof way to win in this league. It takes coaching, good playcalling, GM's that pay the guys who don't play for the love of the game and well...luck really (the ball bounces different ways 'cause it's oblong). The most important aspect of winning is the one that goes unsaid most of the time: player execution. If the players don't execute, bad things happen and you usually don't win.
Outside of that, the article posted jumps around a lot and doesn't really say much. It seemed like it was just filler for a long offseason with not much going on.
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Well, there's one thing in that article I agree with. Tomlin is smart to let LeBeau be demonstrative. Let's not kid ourselves. Tomlin may very well be a good head coach, but the Steelers are nowhere without LeBeau. I remember when they hired Tomlin, there was noise about Tomlin eventually phasing in his 4-3.
Fortunately for Steelers fans, Tomlin wasn't that dumb. He knows where his meal ticket is and it's with the controlled chaos that is LeBeau's zone blitzing.
Every successful head coach is ALWAYS surrounded with at least one excellent coordinator. Sometimes they are one and the same, like Holmgren/Walsh calling their own plays in GB/SF. Or sometimes the coordinators cement the legendary status of their bosses, like Belichick did for Parcells and Ryan did for Ditka.
Why do you think Harbaugh was instantly successful last year? Sure he brought needed discipline to Baltimore, but Cam Cameron and Rob Ryan are about as good as it gets in the coordinator business.
Let's hope Daboll blossoms into this type of coordinator. We don't need worry about Rex. He's legit already.
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What about millionaires helping out really needy kids? so what if they had a budget and wanted to give the kids the most....so they rented a bus instead of flying. No story as far as I'm concerned. Stupid in fact.... just some jets fan reporting more B.S about Mangini....they will be the joke in the end when Mangini wins a lot more games than ryan. Spoiled athletes wanting to fly verses a bus ride is the only reason this is in the news
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I'm not anti-Mangini, just reading everthing posted here about the great things he does, and wondered how this board would respond to an article that doesn't claim the genius of Mangini.
The regulars didn't disappoint!
The Soldier said:
I'm not anti-Mangini, just reading everthing posted here about the great things he does, and wondered how this board would respond to an article that doesn't claim the genius of Mangini.The regulars didn't disappoint!
I think most of the national media really doesn't "claim the genius of Mangini" so I'm not sure where you're going with that.
I was at the camp and I know for a fact that over three quarters of the kids DIDN'T pay the admission and no one got turned away. I also know that with over 750 kids there were less than 10 parents in the stands. I know that EM is very generous with his time and his wallet when it comes to those kids so EXCUSE ME if the players didn't get first class accomodations to and from Hartford.
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As I previously stated soldier boy---and your point is???????
peace
T.Dawg
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Well, there's one thing in that article I agree with. Tomlin is smart to let LeBeau be demonstrative. Let's not kid ourselves. Tomlin may very well be a good head coach, but the Steelers are nowhere without LeBeau. I remember when they hired Tomlin, there was noise about Tomlin eventually phasing in his 4-3.
Fortunately for Steelers fans, Tomlin wasn't that dumb. He knows where his meal ticket is and it's with the controlled chaos that is LeBeau's zone blitzing.
Every successful head coach is ALWAYS surrounded with at least one excellent coordinator. Sometimes they are one and the same, like Holmgren/Walsh calling their own plays in GB/SF. Or sometimes the coordinators cement the legendary status of their bosses, like Belichick did for Parcells and Ryan did for Ditka.
Why do you think Harbaugh was instantly successful last year? Sure he brought needed discipline to Baltimore, but Cam Cameron and Rob Ryan are about as good as it gets in the coordinator business.
Let's hope Daboll blossoms into this type of coordinator. We don't need worry about Rex. He's legit already.
Well, there's one thing in that article I agree with. Tomlin is smart to let LeBeau be demonstrative. Let's not kid ourselves. Tomlin may very well be a good head coach, but the Steelers are nowhere without LeBeau. I remember when they hired Tomlin, there was noise about Tomlin eventually phasing in his 4-3.
Fortunately for Steelers fans, Tomlin wasn't that dumb. He knows where his meal ticket is and it's with the controlled chaos that is LeBeau's zone blitzing.
Every successful head coach is ALWAYS surrounded with at least one excellent coordinator. Sometimes they are one and the same, like Holmgren/Walsh calling their own plays in GB/SF. Or sometimes the coordinators cement the legendary status of their bosses, like Belichick did for Parcells and Ryan did for Ditka.
Why do you think Harbaugh was instantly successful last year? Sure he brought needed discipline to Baltimore, but Cam Cameron and Rob Ryan are about as good as it gets in the coordinator business.
Let's hope Daboll blossoms into this type of coordinator. We don't need worry about Rex. He's legit already.
I think Tomlin would have come in and struggled without LeBeau. LeBeau doesn't get enough credit for what he has done over the years with that defense. There are in Super Bowls because of the defense, not the offense.
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I have a woodrow over Mangini and dammit I'm man enough to admit it.
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