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  • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    Walterfootball tags him as very late round or UFA and thinks he functions better if converted to FB.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      Last year I thought Kamara out of  Tennessee I believe may have been a good choice for the Browns to take at RB in the mid rounds.  They didn't do it.  New Orleans did...and he lived up to my expectations.

      Is this guy your Kamara?    What is he?  Mid round prospect?

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        Last year I thought Kamara out of  Tennessee I believe may have been a good choice for the Browns to take at RB in the mid rounds.  They didn't do it.  New Orleans did...and he lived up to my expectations.

        Is this guy your Kamara?    What is he?  Mid round prospect?

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        Gunz41G Gunz41 wrote on last edited by
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        @the-gipper said:

        Last year I thought Kamara out of  Tennessee I believe may have been a good choice for the Browns to take at RB in the mid rounds.  They didn't do it.  New Orleans did...and he lived up to my expectations.

        Is this guy your Kamara?    What is he?  Mid round prospect?

        Kamara is that rare guy who is better/more impactful as a pro vs college player. Just depends on the situation you find yourself in. Kamara and Hunt both ended up in great situations for themselves. 

        Gurley, Zeke, and Fournette top backs drafted past 3 seasons, they wouldn't have been as effective with teams like Cleveland or either NY team.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          true - I wonder where this guy would go - after the combine. Maybe 4th round? early fifth? who knows. I do want a bigger power back like him - we don't have that power runner - our fb now rarely ever carries the ball in the red zone. who knows.

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            true - I wonder where this guy would go - after the combine. Maybe 4th round? early fifth? who knows. I do want a bigger power back like him - we don't have that power runner - our fb now rarely ever carries the ball in the red zone. who knows.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @calfoxwc said:

            true - I wonder where this guy would go - after the combine. Maybe 4th round? early fifth? who knows. I do want a bigger power back like him - we don't have that power runner - our fb now rarely ever carries the ball in the red zone. who knows.

            Crowe would be that guy....but arsebarg Hue doesn't believe in running the ball close to the endzone.  Let's dial up some trick play.

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              Not only do the Browns need to find a power back to replace Crowell, they need to consider taking a RB who fits the Duke Johnson role, because he's a free agent after next season. 

              I love this RB class. 

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                true - I wonder where this guy would go - after the combine. Maybe 4th round? early fifth? who knows. I do want a bigger power back like him - we don't have that power runner - our fb now rarely ever carries the ball in the red zone. who knows.

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                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                @calfoxwc said:

                true - I wonder where this guy would go - after the combine. Maybe 4th round? early fifth? who knows. I do want a bigger power back like him - we don't have that power runner - our fb now rarely ever carries the ball in the red zone. who knows.

                If Huey is no longer calling redzone plays, then we have a better chance with a power back like other good red zone teams. The Titans never understood that with Henry, so now that coach is long gone too.

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                  Not only do the Browns need to find a power back to replace Crowell, they need to consider taking a RB who fits the Duke Johnson role, because he's a free agent after next season. 

                  I love this RB class. 

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Not only do the Browns need to find a power back to replace Crowell, they need to consider taking a RB who fits the Duke Johnson role, because he's a free agent after next season. 

                  I love this RB class. 

                  Pick the best on the board in R1 or wait for R2 or later pickups? (the new normal for RBs)

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Not only do the Browns need to find a power back to replace Crowell, they need to consider taking a RB who fits the Duke Johnson role, because he's a free agent after next season. 

                    I love this RB class. 

                    Pick the best on the board in R1 or wait for R2 or later pickups? (the new normal for RBs)

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @mjp28 said:

                    Pick the best on the board in R1 or wait for R2 or later pickups? (the new normal for RBs)

                    There is no way I'd use the #1 or #4 overall pick on a RB.

                    I'd strongly consider taking one with one of the 2nds though. Duke is a free agent after this season, I'd be fine with taking another RB too...

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                      @mjp28 said:

                      Pick the best on the board in R1 or wait for R2 or later pickups? (the new normal for RBs)

                      There is no way I'd use the #1 or #4 overall pick on a RB.

                      I'd strongly consider taking one with one of the 2nds though. Duke is a free agent after this season, I'd be fine with taking another RB too...

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                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                       Duke is a free agent after this season, I'd be fine with taking another RB too...

                      I'd get use to Duke taking some of the money that Crow don't want. Dayes needs playing time but how can he sitting behind Duke.. we need to draft a Big time Banger.. see a lot of Dukes in this draft but we need a Fournette type

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                         Duke is a free agent after this season, I'd be fine with taking another RB too...

                        I'd get use to Duke taking some of the money that Crow don't want. Dayes needs playing time but how can he sitting behind Duke.. we need to draft a Big time Banger.. see a lot of Dukes in this draft but we need a Fournette type

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @gumby73 said:

                        I'd get use to Duke taking some of the money that Crow don't want. Dayes needs playing time but how can he sitting behind Duke.. we need to draft a Big time Banger.. see a lot of Dukes in this draft but we need a Fournette type

                        Bo Scarbrough would meet those specs.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          Scarbrough has never played a whole season for injuries.

                          Kalen Ballage is a big, powerful rb that runs a 4.4, played all sorts of positions in hs, and

                          is a terrific kid:

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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                            Now, watch this kid play - he nearly as fast as Barkley, but he is a power runner.

                            This kid must be a Cleveland Brown. I think his stock will go up. I think I could draft this

                            kid in the third ? round, and he would be an immediate impact player at rb.

                            There just has to be a pick for him in the Browns draft this coming year.

                            And wait til after the combine. Highlights from college:

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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              https://www.houseofsparky.com/2017/8/27/16210198/asu-football-kalen-ballage-boasts-next-level-talent-huge-opportunity-ahead-of-final-season

                              That's all, folks. My rb pick for the Browns' draft.

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                                https://www.houseofsparky.com/2017/8/27/16210198/asu-football-kalen-ballage-boasts-next-level-talent-huge-opportunity-ahead-of-final-season

                                That's all, folks. My rb pick for the Browns' draft.

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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                https://www.houseofsparky.com/2017/8/27/16210198/asu-football-kalen-ballage-boasts-next-level-talent-huge-opportunity-ahead-of-final-season

                                That's all, folks. My rb pick for the Browns' draft.

                                Is he your dark horse cal?

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                                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                                  http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/kalen-ballage?id=2559995

                                  Vision issues being mentioned gives me the bubble guts. TRich sucked for just that reason.

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                    Yea, the senior bowl practice week has become a build up chat week of prospects. Fell into the trap so I turned the film on on Kalen. Lot of frame to grow into at 6'3" 230 but imo Arizona St. did him a favor coming off a good year as a Junior but this Katz stat line just is not impressive. Lot of carries just not a lot of production numbers..For the life of me I still can't find if he has a fumblitist issue with no numbers showing up, against not a great division for Defense..

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                                      Scarbrough has never played a whole season for injuries.

                                      Kalen Ballage is a big, powerful rb that runs a 4.4, played all sorts of positions in hs, and

                                      is a terrific kid:

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by LogicIsForSquares
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      Scarbrough has never played a whole season for injuries.

                                      He played in every game this season and only missed one game the season before. 

                                      The injury plagued season was his freshman year.

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        But I digess. This thread is about Ballage. I need to watch something other than a highlight on him to see if the vision issues are as bad as advertised. He can catch the football and seems to run with power.

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          ANALYSIS

                                          STRENGTHS

                                           Big, bruising back with power in his lower body but lighter feet than you?d expect give his size. North-south runner effective in one and two-back sets. Strong cuts and a nice burst out of them makes him capable of breaking off big runs when the hole is available. Sets up defenders in the open field to cut away. Flashes some stop-start ability and shake in space that freezes oncoming defenders. Pushes piles with lower body strength. Can lower his pads for contact, churn through tackle attempts to become difficult to bring down due to second and third efforts. Wiggles and pushes through traffic inside to get the extra yard after it looks as though he?s stopped. Possesses a spin move to come off tackles at the second level, maintains balance to keep on moving or at least fall forward for an extra couple of yards. Uses a strong stiff arm in space, as well. Agile enough to jump over defenders trying to cut him down in the open field. Used in WildDawg formation in the red zone. Decent receiver out of the backfield.

                                          WEAKNESSES

                                           Taller back who presents a big target for defenders to hit, especially when failing to lower his pads going into the hole. Size also limits his breakaway speed and ability to create on his own if challenged by better front sevens.Sub par vision prevents him from seeing cut back lines and sees him running up the back of his lead blocker too often. Pass protection form is inconsistent, has size to handle rushers or at least push them around the pocket, but often moves his feet too slowly or tries to cut instead of setting to anchor. Holds the ball away from his body at times, though he doesn?t fumble very often.
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