What is the most Brown's could get from a QB hungry team for the top pick?
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Would/should Browns accept a Bills offer of both their 21st & 22nd for our 4th?
No thank you.
This team has enough young players.
This draft should be about quality over quantity. In fact, the Browns should use their extra picks to move up when they target a player they really want.
No thank you.
This team has enough young players.
This draft should be about quality over quantity. In fact, the Browns should use their extra picks to move up when they target a player they really want.
We now have a QUALITY Front Office...Now let's just trust in them to get those "quality" players.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Would/should Browns accept a Bills offer of both their 21st & 22nd for our 4th?
Would/should Browns accept a Bills offer of both their 21st & 22nd for our 4th?
Here is drafttek's new and improved 2018 trade value chart:
http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp
Using that as a basis the Browns #4 is worth 1800 points and the Buffalo pair are worth 1780 combined. They'd have to add their 28.2 valued 5th rounder (2nd one) since they have no draft pick in the 6th closer to the 20 point value.
Still-I would not do it under current conditions since we need a few really great players added to this team.
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No thank you.
This team has enough young players.
This draft should be about quality over quantity. In fact, the Browns should use their extra picks to move up when they target a player they really want.
We now have a QUALITY Front Office...Now let's just trust in them to get those "quality" players.
Mike
We now have a QUALITY Front Office...Now let's just trust in them to get those "quality" players.
Mike
The proof is in the pudding Mike...
I like the guys who have been brought in to the front office, but it's early. We'll see. Hopefully our optimism is warranted.
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We now have a QUALITY Front Office...Now let's just trust in them to get those "quality" players.
Mike
The proof is in the pudding Mike...
I like the guys who have been brought in to the front office, but it's early. We'll see. Hopefully our optimism is warranted.
The proof is in the pudding Mike...
I like the guys who have been brought in to the front office, but it's early. We'll see. Hopefully our optimism is warranted.
These guys have VERY successful track records & built WINNERS. While any & all draft picks have risks & there may be "misses", I like the odds of "hits" with Dorsey et al.
Mike
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The proof is in the pudding Mike...
I like the guys who have been brought in to the front office, but it's early. We'll see. Hopefully our optimism is warranted.
These guys have VERY successful track records & built WINNERS. While any & all draft picks have risks & there may be "misses", I like the odds of "hits" with Dorsey et al.
Mike
These guys have VERY successful track records & built WINNERS. While any & all draft picks have risks & there may be "misses", I like the odds of "hits" with Dorsey et al.
Mike
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
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I just wondered if any team might be desperate enough to give up this year's first plus the next 3 years first round picks if they loved one particular guy?
I just wondered if any team might be desperate enough to give up this year's first plus the next 3 years first round picks if they loved one particular guy?
Don't be reotarded. The browns are going to pick a QB at #1, they are NOT going to get Cousins or anyone else. The assholes will have a finger up their butt and be paralyzed at #4, they will trade down to acquire "assets" and wind up with another schidt player like Corely Coleslaw. And you guys will be wondering why the Browns still suck pig dik.
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I feel like Indy holds the pick where somebody is going to make the big trade up move especially if 2 of the 3 top QBs are already gone. If they're as dumb as they were when they picked the 175-180 lb Philip Dorsett in the 1st round instead of someone to help protect their young franchise QB better up front - then they'll just take their scheduled selection over a bigger quantity of early round picks.
It's a deep RB draft so I'd love it if Indy just took Barkley or their favorite pass rusher while we have the spot where someone can jump in front of Elway's #5 spot like the Bills, Jets, Cardinals or even Elway worried about those teams doing so. I think the teams pretending to like the inconsistent Josh Allen really know the top 3 guys in no particular order are the Rosen One, Mayfield and Darnold. If 1 of those guys are left at #4 - the fall off to Josh Allen is significant enough for someone to make a BIG time trade-up for the remaining QB. Buffalo made the playoffs and watched a QB struggle enough for only 3 points all day to remind themselves they benched him earlier on in the year (but had nothing else to reward them for doing so). They're a playoff team that just needs a QB so don't under-estimate what they will be willing to give up to finally have a QB again. They also saw what Robert Woods could be when he had a franchise QB throwing him open and giving him nice numbers the final half of 2017. Aside from Woods leaving for a better pass game/QB - Chris Hogan and Sammy Watkins did as well.
I'd rather get OUR QB first at #1 which puts the run on QBs in motion already. The NYG rarely ever draft up this high so they'll feel like they're never going to have a more ideal chance than now to take their QB of the future. If our worst case scenario with the top 3 QBs off the board is to draft is to draft the BPA at #4, it could be the best we've done in round 1 since getting Ozzie Newsome and Clay Matthews in the 1st round of the 1978 draft.
For those that like trades, what could we get for Josh Gordon (especially after we snag Pro Bowl WR Jarvis Landry in FA)?
I feel like Indy holds the pick where somebody is going to make the big trade up move especially if 2 of the 3 top QBs are already gone. If they're as dumb as they were when they picked the 175-180 lb Philip Dorsett in the 1st round instead of someone to help protect their young franchise QB better up front - then they'll just take their scheduled selection over a bigger quantity of early round picks.
It's a deep RB draft so I'd love it if Indy just took Barkley or their favorite pass rusher while we have the spot where someone can jump in front of Elway's #5 spot like the Bills, Jets, Cardinals or even Elway worried about those teams doing so. I think the teams pretending to like the inconsistent Josh Allen really know the top 3 guys in no particular order are the Rosen One, Mayfield and Darnold. If 1 of those guys are left at #4 - the fall off to Josh Allen is significant enough for someone to make a BIG time trade-up for the remaining QB. Buffalo made the playoffs and watched a QB struggle enough for only 3 points all day to remind themselves they benched him earlier on in the year (but had nothing else to reward them for doing so). They're a playoff team that just needs a QB so don't under-estimate what they will be willing to give up to finally have a QB again. They also saw what Robert Woods could be when he had a franchise QB throwing him open and giving him nice numbers the final half of 2017. Aside from Woods leaving for a better pass game/QB - Chris Hogan and Sammy Watkins did as well.
I'd rather get OUR QB first at #1 which puts the run on QBs in motion already. The NYG rarely ever draft up this high so they'll feel like they're never going to have a more ideal chance than now to take their QB of the future. If our worst case scenario with the top 3 QBs off the board is to draft is to draft the BPA at #4, it could be the best we've done in round 1 since getting Ozzie Newsome and Clay Matthews in the 1st round of the 1978 draft.
For those that like trades, what could we get for Josh Gordon (especially after we snag Pro Bowl WR Jarvis Landry in FA)?
How could BUF be in the mix to get a QB who they saw why they benched, but saw what Woods could do in 2nd half of 2017 with a franchise QB? If he is a franchise QB, then they don't need one, and if he isn't, then Woods didn't have a franchise guy throwing to him 2nd half.
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These guys have VERY successful track records & built WINNERS. While any & all draft picks have risks & there may be "misses", I like the odds of "hits" with Dorsey et al.
Mike
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
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Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
So have you filled out and submitted that application yet? I mean you can obviously do so much better than anyone for any team. I'm guessing if you took over for the 0-16 Browns, with your o so vast knowledge of EVERYTHING, the Browns will never lose a football game again. If you are the GM for 30 years, the Browns will go on a 570 game winning streak.
But why stop at that, you can be GM AND HEAD COACH. BUT BUT BUT, Further yet, since you know more football than everyone ever on the planet, you won't need assistants, and you can probably buy the team soon.
Everyone, Ghoolie is going to save the Browns. But too bad, since he hates the team, they won't be in Cleveland.
I'll GUARANTEE that if YOU put together a FOOTBALL team with the nonsensical spew that you say on here, it would be a 570 game LOSING streak. You have not ONE clue about what FOOTBALL and putting a team together entails. And your idiotic blathering on here shows it.
With you at the helm, the team would be all "playmakers", no lineman and no defense. You would be 1 million time worse than ANYTHING any team has ever had, but you think you are IT. You spew homophobic, racists things and call people A LOT smarter than you coffee fetchers. Congrats on being "Ghoolie" and "smart"
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Dorsey is a coffee fetcher. He will fare no better than Phil Sewage and Mike Homo-grin. For the love of naked nigerians, the dumb bastard is such a homosexual that he already performed public fellatio on Haslam and kissed Black Uncle Fester's lake Erie bound butt.
Stop with the " In Dorkey we trust bullschidt already. This guy ain't taking the Browns anywhere. He will draft who Haslam tells him to draft.
So have you filled out and submitted that application yet? I mean you can obviously do so much better than anyone for any team. I'm guessing if you took over for the 0-16 Browns, with your o so vast knowledge of EVERYTHING, the Browns will never lose a football game again. If you are the GM for 30 years, the Browns will go on a 570 game winning streak.
But why stop at that, you can be GM AND HEAD COACH. BUT BUT BUT, Further yet, since you know more football than everyone ever on the planet, you won't need assistants, and you can probably buy the team soon.
Everyone, Ghoolie is going to save the Browns. But too bad, since he hates the team, they won't be in Cleveland.
I'll GUARANTEE that if YOU put together a FOOTBALL team with the nonsensical spew that you say on here, it would be a 570 game LOSING streak. You have not ONE clue about what FOOTBALL and putting a team together entails. And your idiotic blathering on here shows it.
With you at the helm, the team would be all "playmakers", no lineman and no defense. You would be 1 million time worse than ANYTHING any team has ever had, but you think you are IT. You spew homophobic, racists things and call people A LOT smarter than you coffee fetchers. Congrats on being "Ghoolie" and "smart"
So have you filled out and submitted that application yet? I mean you can obviously do so much better than anyone for any team. I'm guessing if you took over for the 0-16 Browns, with your o so vast knowledge of EVERYTHING, the Browns will never lose a football game again. If you are the GM for 30 years, the Browns will go on a 570 game winning streak.
But why stop at that, you can be GM AND HEAD COACH. BUT BUT BUT, Further yet, since you know more football than everyone ever on the planet, you won't need assistants, and you can probably buy the team soon.
Everyone, Ghoolie is going to save the Browns. But too bad, since he hates the team, they won't be in Cleveland.
I'll GUARANTEE that if YOU put together a FOOTBALL team with the nonsensical spew that you say on here, it would be a 570 game LOSING streak. You have not ONE clue about what FOOTBALL and putting a team together entails. And your idiotic blathering on here shows it.
With you at the helm, the team would be all "playmakers", no lineman and no defense. You would be 1 million time worse than ANYTHING any team has ever had, but you think you are IT. You spew homophobic, racists things and call people A LOT smarter than you coffee fetchers. Congrats on being "Ghoolie" and "smart"
The ONLY thing you can guarantee is that when you have sex a woman won't be involved.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
These guys have VERY successful track records & built WINNERS. While any & all draft picks have risks & there may be "misses", I like the odds of "hits" with Dorsey et al.
Mike
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!"
Mike
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So have you filled out and submitted that application yet? I mean you can obviously do so much better than anyone for any team. I'm guessing if you took over for the 0-16 Browns, with your o so vast knowledge of EVERYTHING, the Browns will never lose a football game again. If you are the GM for 30 years, the Browns will go on a 570 game winning streak.
But why stop at that, you can be GM AND HEAD COACH. BUT BUT BUT, Further yet, since you know more football than everyone ever on the planet, you won't need assistants, and you can probably buy the team soon.
Everyone, Ghoolie is going to save the Browns. But too bad, since he hates the team, they won't be in Cleveland.
I'll GUARANTEE that if YOU put together a FOOTBALL team with the nonsensical spew that you say on here, it would be a 570 game LOSING streak. You have not ONE clue about what FOOTBALL and putting a team together entails. And your idiotic blathering on here shows it.
With you at the helm, the team would be all "playmakers", no lineman and no defense. You would be 1 million time worse than ANYTHING any team has ever had, but you think you are IT. You spew homophobic, racists things and call people A LOT smarter than you coffee fetchers. Congrats on being "Ghoolie" and "smart"
The ONLY thing you can guarantee is that when you have sex a woman won't be involved.
The ONLY thing you can guarantee is that when you have sex a woman won't be involved.
Wow, you got me sooooo good. It's funny after all that, that you can't defend any of it. You know why? Because it was all truth.
But go ahead, give us this infinite wisdom, build your team. I'll even give you 2 lifelines. You can make 3 trades, and WITH Hindsight, you can redraft the Browns last year.
But the caveat. Everything you do has to be realistic, you can't trade a 7th round pick for Aaron Rodgers and trading draft picks has to be realistic, you can't trade a 2nd and 7th for the #2 pick. And you can't spend more money than what the Browns have in cap space, and you certainly can't sign players who aren't available.
So go ahead genius, build your team with all that wisdom
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Would/should Browns accept a Bills offer of both their 21st & 22nd for our 4th?
No thank you.
This team has enough young players.
This draft should be about quality over quantity. In fact, the Browns should use their extra picks to move up when they target a player they really want.
No thank you.
This team has enough young players.
This draft should be about quality over quantity. In fact, the Browns should use their extra picks to move up when they target a player they really want.
That's the plan....I hope. I just wish the draft was two days instead of this prime time circus they have set up now.
The BROWNS have an unusually strong assortment of very well placed draft picks this year in the top 100. I'm all for getting the best athletes available they have the extra ammo to get rid of a few of the 12 to get a solid class of 2018.
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The ONLY thing you can guarantee is that when you have sex a woman won't be involved.
Wow, you got me sooooo good. It's funny after all that, that you can't defend any of it. You know why? Because it was all truth.
But go ahead, give us this infinite wisdom, build your team. I'll even give you 2 lifelines. You can make 3 trades, and WITH Hindsight, you can redraft the Browns last year.
But the caveat. Everything you do has to be realistic, you can't trade a 7th round pick for Aaron Rodgers and trading draft picks has to be realistic, you can't trade a 2nd and 7th for the #2 pick. And you can't spend more money than what the Browns have in cap space, and you certainly can't sign players who aren't available.
So go ahead genius, build your team with all that wisdom
Wow, you got me sooooo good. It's funny after all that, that you can't defend any of it. You know why? Because it was all truth.
But go ahead, give us this infinite wisdom, build your team. I'll even give you 2 lifelines. You can make 3 trades, and WITH Hindsight, you can redraft the Browns last year.
But the caveat. Everything you do has to be realistic, you can't trade a 7th round pick for Aaron Rodgers and trading draft picks has to be realistic, you can't trade a 2nd and 7th for the #2 pick. And you can't spend more money than what the Browns have in cap space, and you certainly can't sign players who aren't available.
So go ahead genius, build your team with all that wisdom
He won't do it because he can't. Just here to troll. Maybe he'll have the Browns trade the #1 overall to the Broncos for super stud Paxton Lynch.
I guarantee you he hasn't watched 30 minutes total of the top QBs. Anyone who thinks a RB tops a franchise qB at #1 is a doofus.
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I feel like Indy holds the pick where somebody is going to make the big trade up move especially if 2 of the 3 top QBs are already gone. If they're as dumb as they were when they picked the 175-180 lb Philip Dorsett in the 1st round instead of someone to help protect their young franchise QB better up front - then they'll just take their scheduled selection over a bigger quantity of early round picks.
It's a deep RB draft so I'd love it if Indy just took Barkley or their favorite pass rusher while we have the spot where someone can jump in front of Elway's #5 spot like the Bills, Jets, Cardinals or even Elway worried about those teams doing so. I think the teams pretending to like the inconsistent Josh Allen really know the top 3 guys in no particular order are the Rosen One, Mayfield and Darnold. If 1 of those guys are left at #4 - the fall off to Josh Allen is significant enough for someone to make a BIG time trade-up for the remaining QB. Buffalo made the playoffs and watched a QB struggle enough for only 3 points all day to remind themselves they benched him earlier on in the year (but had nothing else to reward them for doing so). They're a playoff team that just needs a QB so don't under-estimate what they will be willing to give up to finally have a QB again. They also saw what Robert Woods could be when he had a franchise QB throwing him open and giving him nice numbers the final half of 2017. Aside from Woods leaving for a better pass game/QB - Chris Hogan and Sammy Watkins did as well.
I'd rather get OUR QB first at #1 which puts the run on QBs in motion already. The NYG rarely ever draft up this high so they'll feel like they're never going to have a more ideal chance than now to take their QB of the future. If our worst case scenario with the top 3 QBs off the board is to draft is to draft the BPA at #4, it could be the best we've done in round 1 since getting Ozzie Newsome and Clay Matthews in the 1st round of the 1978 draft.
For those that like trades, what could we get for Josh Gordon (especially after we snag Pro Bowl WR Jarvis Landry in FA)?
How could BUF be in the mix to get a QB who they saw why they benched, but saw what Woods could do in 2nd half of 2017 with a franchise QB? If he is a franchise QB, then they don't need one, and if he isn't, then Woods didn't have a franchise guy throwing to him 2nd half.
How could BUF be in the mix to get a QB who they saw why they benched, but saw what Woods could do in 2nd half of 2017 with a franchise QB? If he is a franchise QB, then they don't need one, and if he isn't, then Woods didn't have a franchise guy throwing to him 2nd half.
Robert Woods got traded to the LA Rams last season. He performed way better with a QB drafted 1st overall (Goff) than he did with Taylor in Buffalo.
Buffalo benched Tyrod Taylor earlier in 2017 and the replacements were even more disappointing so they went with the least of all evils. In the playoffs, they only scored 3 points on a day they only gave up 10. Many in Western NY think they need a better QB while they have a playoff roster...
Buffalo has 2 first round picks in 2018 and a second round pick they can part with unless they're totally content scoring just 3 points in their playoff games moving forward. I'm guessing they want to be in play but I've been wrong before....
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Careful Mike. You're flirting with a ghoolie retort here.
"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!"
Mike
"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn!"
Mike
Oh Sheet! Now you've added me to the list of Ghoolie's dates. (not at there's anything wrong with that)
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How could BUF be in the mix to get a QB who they saw why they benched, but saw what Woods could do in 2nd half of 2017 with a franchise QB? If he is a franchise QB, then they don't need one, and if he isn't, then Woods didn't have a franchise guy throwing to him 2nd half.
Robert Woods got traded to the LA Rams last season. He performed way better with a QB drafted 1st overall (Goff) than he did with Taylor in Buffalo.
Buffalo benched Tyrod Taylor earlier in 2017 and the replacements were even more disappointing so they went with the least of all evils. In the playoffs, they only scored 3 points on a day they only gave up 10. Many in Western NY think they need a better QB while they have a playoff roster...
Buffalo has 2 first round picks in 2018 and a second round pick they can part with unless they're totally content scoring just 3 points in their playoff games moving forward. I'm guessing they want to be in play but I've been wrong before....
Robert Woods got traded to the LA Rams last season. He performed way better with a QB drafted 1st overall (Goff) than he did with Taylor in Buffalo.
Buffalo benched Tyrod Taylor earlier in 2017 and the replacements were even more disappointing so they went with the least of all evils. In the playoffs, they only scored 3 points on a day they only gave up 10. Many in Western NY think they need a better QB while they have a playoff roster...
Buffalo has 2 first round picks in 2018 and a second round pick they can part with unless they're totally content scoring just 3 points in their playoff games moving forward. I'm guessing they want to be in play but I've been wrong before....
That's right. I guess I read it as someone being on the Bills team and how they did in 2nd half. Thanks for the correction
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Robert Woods got traded to the LA Rams last season. He performed way better with a QB drafted 1st overall (Goff) than he did with Taylor in Buffalo.
Buffalo benched Tyrod Taylor earlier in 2017 and the replacements were even more disappointing so they went with the least of all evils. In the playoffs, they only scored 3 points on a day they only gave up 10. Many in Western NY think they need a better QB while they have a playoff roster...
Buffalo has 2 first round picks in 2018 and a second round pick they can part with unless they're totally content scoring just 3 points in their playoff games moving forward. I'm guessing they want to be in play but I've been wrong before....
That's right. I guess I read it as someone being on the Bills team and how they did in 2nd half. Thanks for the correction
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