Joe Covets Kirk .....
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I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
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I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)
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Jets proved what Browns could not give Josh in just 1 season. Better team coaching, team disapline, with better receiver core & a defense that won time of possession.. QB play is a big part but other phases of game matter..
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Save a LOT of money with little or no drop off in talent/production...SIGN AJ!!! (just one old man's opinion)
Mike
I'm all for exploring possibilities with AJ.. He piques my interest.. Based on the limited film on him I have seen.. He looks impressive... And deserves a shot.. IMHO.
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Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. I want wins, and I want them NOW.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
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Cousins is average and has a Sheet record against .500 teams.. Plus hes on the back end of his career... Pass!
IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. I want wins, and I want them NOW.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. Get him.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I watched him play. Even in his "good" games he crumbled under pressure. Mccown just isn't a winner
Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)
Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)
That's me. I think Alex Smith is a below average starter. Wasn't worth the money or the picks the redskins gave up. He's light years better than McCown tho
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Shut up Joe don’t care what you say,you haven’t won Sheet since you’ve been here , let the new FO call the shots
Shut up Joe ... , let the new FO call the shots
There IS that. You really can't have the players sticking there noses in this area.
But as has been said, Joe wants to win RFN. And I'm sure he figures, Hell, if they get pissed at me, what are they gonna do? Fire me? I'll friggin' retire if they don't like it. - Like my neighbor who was getting sick of the bull crap at his job. He tells me things are pretty good at work now. I said, Wow. What happened? I'm old enough to retire now, he said, so I grew a set of balls and told them what I thought.
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IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. Get him.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
I’ll have to disagree on both counts. McCown has thrown for over 4000 yards for each of the last three years while throwing 81-36 TD-INT ratio. Also, the redskins aren’t particularly good at anything. Browns have a better O line, and way more upside on defense. While Kirk played well, most of the rest of the team was either hurt or shitty. They didn’t have a single player to rack up 1000 yards from scrimmage, but even the lowly browns had 2 such players. Hell, Gordon is better than any of the skill positions in Washington. It’s ilpressive that Cousins was above .500 on that team as the starting QB for every game of the last 3 years.
There is nothing exciting about the redskins, and they would’ve gone 0-16 with Kizer under center as he would’ve had even less time to get the ball out and even worse offensive weapons than Cleveland.
All of this still doesn’t take into account the sheer volume of cap space and draft picks the browns could use to build around Cousins. Cousins may not be Tom Brady, but if he can take the potatoes to the playoffs, he can certainly do it here.
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IMO Cousins is better than any of the top QBs in this draft will ever be. Plus I'm not willing to wait a couple of seasons for a QB drafted this year to be ready to lead the Browns offense. Get him.
Acquiring Cousins adds a legitimate NFL QB to the Browns' roster - something that they haven't enjoyed in recent memory. Cousins would be their QB for at least five years, lending stability to the most important position. Finally, grabbing him before the draft provides incredible flexibility to the Browns' draft strategy.
I want to see the Browns relevant again. I don't care what it costs - it's not my money. The money is there to be SPENT to improve the team, not saved for a rainy day.
Give Joe what he wants. Get Cousins at any cost.
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
I lost 10 points off my IQ after reading that insanity.
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Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
I’ll have to disagree on both counts. McCown has thrown for over 4000 yards for each of the last three years while throwing 81-36 TD-INT ratio. Also, the redskins aren’t particularly good at anything. Browns have a better O line, and way more upside on defense. While Kirk played well, most of the rest of the team was either hurt or shitty. They didn’t have a single player to rack up 1000 yards from scrimmage, but even the lowly browns had 2 such players. Hell, Gordon is better than any of the skill positions in Washington. It’s ilpressive that Cousins was above .500 on that team as the starting QB for every game of the last 3 years.
There is nothing exciting about the redskins, and they would’ve gone 0-16 with Kizer under center as he would’ve had even less time to get the ball out and even worse offensive weapons than Cleveland.
All of this still doesn’t take into account the sheer volume of cap space and draft picks the browns could use to build around Cousins. Cousins may not be Tom Brady, but if he can take the potatoes to the playoffs, he can certainly do it here.
I’ll have to disagree on both counts. McCown has thrown for over 4000 yards for each of the last three years while throwing 81-36 TD-INT ratio. Also, the redskins aren’t particularly good at anything. Browns have a better O line, and way more upside on defense. While Kirk played well, most of the rest of the team was either hurt or shitty. They didn’t have a single player to rack up 1000 yards from scrimmage, but even the lowly browns had 2 such players. Hell, Gordon is better than any of the skill positions in Washington. It’s ilpressive that Cousins was above .500 on that team as the starting QB for every game of the last 3 years.
There is nothing exciting about the redskins, and they would’ve gone 0-16 with Kizer under center as he would’ve had even less time to get the ball out and even worse offensive weapons than Cleveland.
All of this still doesn’t take into account the sheer volume of cap space and draft picks the browns could use to build around Cousins. Cousins may not be Tom Brady, but if he can take the potatoes to the playoffs, he can certainly do it here.
Theres a reason the Redskins wanted Alex Smith and not Kirk Cousins.. Just look at his record against .500 teams, Analytics says no way in hell would they pay a guy beau coup money with the inconsistencies he has.. Hes a nice QB , don't get me wrong. But hes not Garropolo or even Alex Smith good as far as talent goes... Id rather cut the crap.. Draft your guy.. bring in a solid bridge guy.. then BAM!.. your on your way.. "hopefully"...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Put the crack pipe down, Dufus...Cousins is very "Average".. I'm not spending money on a average QB in the twilight of his career... He needs a perfect team around him to have success.. We don;t have any semblance of that here...
I lost 10 points off my IQ after reading that insanity.
I lost 10 points off my IQ after reading that insanity.
You never had 10 to begin with.. You have more an IQ that would barely rate as a 2.. There's 10-12 year old kids that possess more logic than you...
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Does anybody else smell the absolute desperation showcased by Joe's tweet? To me, it's almost like he knows our management will screw it up (like always) and he's going to turn to BEGGING quarterbacks to come to Cleveland. Here's the next Joe Thomas text, "Kirk...please, please come to Cleveland. I can't stomach the thought of playing with a rookie QB, and I'm begging you. I'll even share my contact with you, and my Joe Thomas hour TV show."
Signing Kirk might be the only way to convince Joe not to retire. I don't see him busting his azz to come back and play another year for either a rookie or washed up veteran qb.
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Do you think Joe ran it by the front office before texting ....I mean if the FO has no interest in Cousins and then Kirk had replied OK I will join the Browns, even in a joke text.. someone will look a fool.....
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Refresh my memory, but were you the person who was arguing with me that Alex Smith is garbage? (I honestly don't remember who I had that debate with...)
That's me. I think Alex Smith is a below average starter. Wasn't worth the money or the picks the redskins gave up. He's light years better than McCown tho
That's me. I think Alex Smith is a below average starter. Wasn't worth the money or the picks the redskins gave up. He's light years better than McCown tho
QUESTION: Would be be a vast improvement, minor improvement, no improvement or a negative effect over the 2017 BROWNS?
I think this would go for any FA or prospective draftees.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I’ll have to disagree on both counts. McCown has thrown for over 4000 yards for each of the last three years while throwing 81-36 TD-INT ratio. Also, the redskins aren’t particularly good at anything. Browns have a better O line, and way more upside on defense. While Kirk played well, most of the rest of the team was either hurt or shitty. They didn’t have a single player to rack up 1000 yards from scrimmage, but even the lowly browns had 2 such players. Hell, Gordon is better than any of the skill positions in Washington. It’s ilpressive that Cousins was above .500 on that team as the starting QB for every game of the last 3 years.
There is nothing exciting about the redskins, and they would’ve gone 0-16 with Kizer under center as he would’ve had even less time to get the ball out and even worse offensive weapons than Cleveland.
All of this still doesn’t take into account the sheer volume of cap space and draft picks the browns could use to build around Cousins. Cousins may not be Tom Brady, but if he can take the potatoes to the playoffs, he can certainly do it here.
Theres a reason the Redskins wanted Alex Smith and not Kirk Cousins.. Just look at his record against .500 teams, Analytics says no way in hell would they pay a guy beau coup money with the inconsistencies he has.. Hes a nice QB , don't get me wrong. But hes not Garropolo or even Alex Smith good as far as talent goes... Id rather cut the crap.. Draft your guy.. bring in a solid bridge guy.. then BAM!.. your on your way.. "hopefully"...
Theres a reason the Redskins wanted Alex Smith and not Kirk Cousins.. Just look at his record against .500 teams, Analytics says no way in hell would they pay a guy beau coup money with the inconsistencies he has.. Hes a nice QB , don't get me wrong. But hes not Garropolo or even Alex Smith good as far as talent goes... Id rather cut the crap.. Draft your guy.. bring in a solid bridge guy.. then BAM!.. your on your way.. "hopefully"...
Alex Smith isn’t as good as Cousins in my opinion. Smith had a considerably better team with real life playmakers and won a few more games because of it, but then he crapped his pants in the playoffs all the same. Cousins didn’t win against winning teams because the team he was on is a rat Sheet, but football is still a team sport.
I’m all on board for drafting the QB of the future this year and hoping he works out, but building a team around a proven QB who still has 6-8 good years left in the tank would be ok with me as well.
Edit: I forgot to add that the NFL is laughing at the redskins for choosing smith over Cousins. When’s the last time the redskins have done something smart? Dan Snyder is one of the few owners in the league who can beat out Haslam for the moron trophy.
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I’ll have to disagree on both counts. McCown has thrown for over 4000 yards for each of the last three years while throwing 81-36 TD-INT ratio. Also, the redskins aren’t particularly good at anything. Browns have a better O line, and way more upside on defense. While Kirk played well, most of the rest of the team was either hurt or shitty. They didn’t have a single player to rack up 1000 yards from scrimmage, but even the lowly browns had 2 such players. Hell, Gordon is better than any of the skill positions in Washington. It’s ilpressive that Cousins was above .500 on that team as the starting QB for every game of the last 3 years.
There is nothing exciting about the redskins, and they would’ve gone 0-16 with Kizer under center as he would’ve had even less time to get the ball out and even worse offensive weapons than Cleveland.
All of this still doesn’t take into account the sheer volume of cap space and draft picks the browns could use to build around Cousins. Cousins may not be Tom Brady, but if he can take the potatoes to the playoffs, he can certainly do it here.
Theres a reason the Redskins wanted Alex Smith and not Kirk Cousins.. Just look at his record against .500 teams, Analytics says no way in hell would they pay a guy beau coup money with the inconsistencies he has.. Hes a nice QB , don't get me wrong. But hes not Garropolo or even Alex Smith good as far as talent goes... Id rather cut the crap.. Draft your guy.. bring in a solid bridge guy.. then BAM!.. your on your way.. "hopefully"...
Analytics says no way in hell would they pay a guy beau coup money with the inconsistencies he has..
But who would be the analytics guy? Depo, the QB guru, who said Wentz wouldn't be a top 20 QB?
I think Hue wants McCarron badly. And I think Dorsey is frothing at the prospect of drafting a QB at #1. - Does Haslam stay the hell out of it? Or is HE gonna choose the QB again?
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