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    The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

    Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

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      The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

      Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

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      @unsympathetic said:

      The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

      Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

      Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

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        Anyways, back to football -

            I actually quit talking about Allen because I'd said all there was to say. Will you stop being a Browns fan if they draft Allen? I'm big on character and leadership. I could post a whole lot of references to red flag questions/suggestions that rosenbum lacks seriously in that dept. why you ignore that, I don't know. That's a ryan leaf lesson.

        & Would you and Mark stop ragging on each other? Sitting on the sidelines watching the war, I almost started deleting some of it. 🙂

        Now if our one trick pony with his obsessive\ compulsive fixation on a certain running back would lay off, the rest of us would be a lot happier. I even started a new Barkley thread, and it's just been more of the same. The leopard can't change his spots apparently.  I can't believe Tour got so POed when I locked that thread he's been nowhere to be seen since. I'll have to call him before the combine to please come back.

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        & Would you and Mark stop ragging on each other? Sitting on the sidelines watching the war, I almost started deleting some of it. 🙂

        I was having some fun flash backs to Fraternity Beer Pong back in the day watching the back and forth... 

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          @unsympathetic said:

          The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

          Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

          Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

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          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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          @sd_tom said:

           With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

          Been rolling some Stanford tape. The guy that keeps popping up around ball is S Justin Reid..Should get to 2nd-3rd round? What's your thoughts on this kid? Any FS skills or games to watch? I like Harrison also, playing pro style looks in college can't hurt..ala Soloman Thomas 

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            @unsympathetic said:

            The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

            Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

            Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

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            FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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            @sd_tom said:

            Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

            Well said Tom.  Ogbah was the #1 ranked DE against the run by PFF before he got injured last year.  I think he was also leading us in sacks and QB pressures rather easily at the time.  When I think of all the spots we need to upgrade in our starting line-up - his isn't one of them. 

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              @unsympathetic said:

              The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

              Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

              Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

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              @sd_tom said:

              Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

              I don't disagree but we need one more in the DE rotation. Orchard was worthless both as a pass rusher and as a run stopper. 2 are not enough for a full 60 minutes or OT. Quality rotation is a must to effectively pressure a QB all game.

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                @unsympathetic said:

                The NFL projections in the scouting report on DaShawn Hand of Bama read exactly like Emmanuel Ogbah: One of the best against the run, not much against the pass.

                Don't hate on Ogbah -- is he an all-pro? No, but only 4 DL in the AFC are.  Let's don't look to replace Ogbah as a starter unless you're substituting someone substantially better.. and there's plenty of positions which can be much more significantly upgraded by a replacement before you get to Ogbah's spot.

                Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

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                @sd_tom said:

                Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

                delusional....our defense is bad....8 of our 11 defenders should not even be receiving meaningful playing time in the nfl. 

                We've got a long ways to go on defense and offense.  but this is the nfl, so change is quick.

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                  @sd_tom said:

                  Ogbah plus Garrett is a great combo. Ogbah had some very good combine numbers himself. With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

                  delusional....our defense is bad....8 of our 11 defenders should not even be receiving meaningful playing time in the nfl. 

                  We've got a long ways to go on defense and offense.  but this is the nfl, so change is quick.

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                  FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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                  @tacosman said:

                  delusional....our defense is bad....8 of our 11 defenders should not even be receiving meaningful playing time in the nfl. 

                  We've got a long ways to go on defense and offense.  but this is the nfl, so change is quick.

                  No quiero Taco Bell.    Try not to confuse the productivity of Ogbah and Garrett (especially when healthy) with our DEFENSE you're disappointed in.  The reason we STARTED the year off very strong against the run is we had 2 or 3 of our front 4 ranking in the elite against the run via PFF  I think the 3 guys ranking high were Meder and Ogbah. Not only that, Trevor Coley was very opportunistic of the double teams Shelton commanded to play just as well as Meder.  Not to be outdone, a blocker-free Joe Schobert looked very much like the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year he was at Wisconsin leading us and the NFL in tackles. 

                  As for the yo quiero Taco Bell part, we DO have a long way to go in the secondary.  But, we'll get our 1st chance to see the corner we drafted from Houston last year.  Meanwhile, we have enough early round picks to improve our secondary as well as FA opportunities.

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                    @sd_tom said:

                     With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

                    Been rolling some Stanford tape. The guy that keeps popping up around ball is S Justin Reid..Should get to 2nd-3rd round? What's your thoughts on this kid? Any FS skills or games to watch? I like Harrison also, playing pro style looks in college can't hurt..ala Soloman Thomas 

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                    @gumby73 said:

                    Been rolling some Stanford tape. The guy that keeps popping up around ball is S Justin Reid..Should get to 2nd-3rd round? What's your thoughts on this kid? Any FS skills? I like Harrison also, playing pro style looks in college can't hurt..ala Soloman Thomas 

                    He's a terrific college player - a bit skinny - depends on his forty time  at the combine - 247sports has him at 4.64 - surely that isn't correct. It's said he's a FS, SS, box safety.... I did have him in my one mock draft

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                      jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                      I'm placing a very high mark on the "attitude and personality", and granted I obviously don't KNOW any of these guys, but from what I observed, I absolutely love the fire of Mayfield. I just feel like the guy who FINALLY succeeds in our beleaguered city is going to be someone with the type of Socky, can't-lose, kiss my azz attitude that Baker possesses. 

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                        I'm placing a very high mark on the "attitude and personality", and granted I obviously don't KNOW any of these guys, but from what I observed, I absolutely love the fire of Mayfield. I just feel like the guy who FINALLY succeeds in our beleaguered city is going to be someone with the type of Socky, can't-lose, kiss my azz attitude that Baker possesses. 

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                        Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                        @jiggins7919 said:

                        I'm placing a very high mark on the "attitude and personality", and granted I obviously don't KNOW any of these guys, but from what I observed, I absolutely love the fire of Mayfield. I just feel like the guy who FINALLY succeeds in our beleaguered city is going to be someone with the type of Socky, can't-lose, kiss my azz attitude that Baker possesses. 

                        I have this sneaky suspicion that this same exact post could be found on here from four years ago, just with Manziel's name instead of Mayfield. 

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                          @sd_tom said:

                           With both healthy, and Collins back, and a SS or CB this draft, we'll be a find defense to watch. 

                          Been rolling some Stanford tape. The guy that keeps popping up around ball is S Justin Reid..Should get to 2nd-3rd round? What's your thoughts on this kid? Any FS skills or games to watch? I like Harrison also, playing pro style looks in college can't hurt..ala Soloman Thomas 

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                          @gumby73 said:

                          Been rolling some Stanford tape. The guy that keeps popping up around ball is S Justin Reid..Should get to 2nd-3rd round? What's your thoughts on this kid? Any FS skills or games to watch? I like Harrison also, playing pro style looks in college can't hurt..ala Soloman Thomas 

                          Appreciate the heads up Gumbs.  Our secondary could use a whole lotta Justin Time.

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