Saquon Barkley Combine Bound
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This guy's got nothin' on me. I'm pretty sure I set the land speed record for humans running to a bunker to get away from incoming rockets. I passed several others doing exactly the same thing in Nha Trang one night. LOL!
This guy's got nothin' on me. I'm pretty sure I set the land speed record for humans running to a bunker to get away from incoming rockets. I passed several others doing exactly the same thing in Nha Thrang one night. LOL!
I totally believe you. It all depends on the moment. One time a friend of mine said I moved like the matrix, said tracers and something about moving in frames. I only believe it because I was very quick back in the day. Quickest I've ever seen. White lightning, quick silver... what my brothas used to call me anyway.
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Really though, how great of a name is Saquon Barkley for the Cleveland Browns.
Seems he was born for this. You guys don't sense the force in this one?
Really though, how great of a name is Saquon Barkley for the Cleveland Browns.
Seems he was born for this. You guys don't sense the force in this one?
Now you are getting into like dementia.
How great of a name is Saquon Barkley for the Browns? Not great at all. It kind of sucks. Why would you think that made up freeking name if any good?
A great name for a Brown is say: Jim Brown.
Or are you just going with the "Bark" thing and the Dawg Pound? That is stretching it and is kinda stupid.
So....the ONLY way it would be a great name for the Browns is if we take him....and he becomes the next best thing to Jim Brown this league has ever seen. (if the Browns did draft him...they I would hope he would be that)
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On a relative scale- cats are way more athletic than humans. That 18" inch tall cat can easily jump 3 times it's height. Don't think Saquon can high jump 15 feet.
A cat that's more human sized (a cheetah) can hit 70 mph in a short burst. LOL my money's definitely on the cheetah in a 40.
Oh come on, SAQUON BARKLEY is super human. Didn't you hear about all of his feats. Here is one. Cat doesn't stand a chance.
Oh come on, SAQUON BARKLEY is super human. Didn't you hear about all of his feats. Here is one. Cat doesn't stand a chance.
No, its not the Empire State Building....it is that Tower in Austin Texas where the guy got up and shot and killed like 10-12 people. You know....a weekly occurrence this day and age.
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Oh come on, SAQUON BARKLEY is super human. Didn't you hear about all of his feats. Here is one. Cat doesn't stand a chance.
No, its not the Empire State Building....it is that Tower in Austin Texas where the guy got up and shot and killed like 10-12 people. You know....a weekly occurrence this day and age.
No, its not the Empire State Building....it is that Tower in Austin Texas where the guy got up and shot and killed like 10-12 people. You know....a weekly occurrence this day and age.
I just looked it up again. It says it is the Cathedral of Learning at Pitt
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Really though, how great of a name is Saquon Barkley for the Cleveland Browns.
Seems he was born for this. You guys don't sense the force in this one?
Really though, how great of a name is Saquon Barkley for the Cleveland Browns.
Seems he was born for this. You guys don't sense the force in this one?
I’m positive you said the same thing about BARKevious Mingo
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I think you might have recalled that I said that he had a fitting name for the Dawgpound. I never said he would be as good as I'm saying Barkley is.
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I think you might have recalled that I said that he had a fitting name for the Dawgpound. I never said he would be as good as I'm saying Barkley is.
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Some are claiming to like Barkley but not more that a franchise QB. I get it. Having to watch QBs struggle all year, going 0-16, enduring a parade in frostbite temperatures - it's enough to cloud ones better judgement. I would absolutely love to be able to get Barkley #4. It would be great to settle the QB position first and still get the vital piece that is going to allow him to be successful. However, there's no evidence to suggest that is going to be the case. There are way to many arrows that can point to either NY or INDY taking Saquon.
The good news is- there's ONE way that you can have both. I even get that some people think we're settling for a QB at #4 but that's just how you are looking at it.
The ONLY WAY you are getting both is to take Barkley #1 Overall. You assure the fans that you will do whatever it takes to win, even drafting a RB #1. The Giants are believed to already have the card with Barkley's name on it, ready to be turned in if given the chance.
One way you can look at this is, every player in the draft is one our team and you have to pick one to keep and cut the rest. You are going to be very hard pressed to have Barkley as your starting RB and then let him walk.
Saquon is absolutely worth the first pick. He's the best football player, he's someone that affects the way the defense looks at the team. Barkley makes the Browns a very dangerous team. Like you said, Gordon, Coleman, Njoku, Duke Johnson and even the OL are going to benefit from Barkley. Even more so than all the other positions- WHOEVER plays QB is getting a huge bonus!
Bucky says it pretty well- Barkley is a solar system player, build around him.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Some are claiming to like Barkley but not more that a franchise QB. I get it. Having to watch QBs struggle all year, going 0-16, enduring a parade in frostbite temperatures - it's enough to cloud ones better judgement. I would absolutely love to be able to get Barkley #4. It would be great to settle the QB position first and still get the vital piece that is going to allow him to be successful. However, there's no evidence to suggest that is going to be the case. There are way to many arrows that can point to either NY or INDY taking Saquon.
The good news is- there's ONE way that you can have both. I even get that some people think we're settling for a QB at #4 but that's just how you are looking at it.
The ONLY WAY you are getting both is to take Barkley #1 Overall. You assure the fans that you will do whatever it takes to win, even drafting a RB #1. The Giants are believed to already have the card with Barkley's name on it, ready to be turned in if given the chance.
One way you can look at this is, every player in the draft is one our team and you have to pick one to keep and cut the rest. You are going to be very hard pressed to have Barkley as your starting RB and then let him walk.
Saquon is absolutely worth the first pick. He's the best football player, he's someone that affects the way the defense looks at the team. Barkley makes the Browns a very dangerous team. Like you said, Gordon, Coleman, Njoku, Duke Johnson and even the OL are going to benefit from Barkley. Even more so than all the other positions- WHOEVER plays QB is getting a huge bonus!
Bucky says it pretty well- Barkley is a solar system player, build around him.
Some are claiming to like Barkley but not more that a franchise QB. I get it. Having to watch QBs struggle all year, going 0-16, enduring a parade in frostbite temperatures - it's enough to cloud ones better judgement. I would absolutely love to be able to get Barkley #4. It would be great to settle the QB position first and still get the vital piece that is going to allow him to be successful. However, there's no evidence to suggest that is going to be the case. There are way to many arrows that can point to either NY or INDY taking Saquon.
The good news is- there's ONE way that you can have both. I even get that some people think we're settling for a QB at #4 but that's just how you are looking at it.
The ONLY WAY you are getting both is to take Barkley #1 Overall. You assure the fans that you will do whatever it takes to win, even drafting a RB #1. The Giants are believed to already have the card with Barkley's name on it, ready to be turned in if given the chance.
One way you can look at this is, every player in the draft is one our team and you have to pick one to keep and cut the rest. You are going to be very hard pressed to have Barkley as your starting RB and then let him walk.
Saquon is absolutely worth the first pick. He's the best football player, he's someone that affects the way the defense looks at the team. Barkley makes the Browns a very dangerous team. Like you said, Gordon, Coleman, Njoku, Duke Johnson and even the OL are going to benefit from Barkley. Even more so than all the other positions- WHOEVER plays QB is getting a huge bonus!
Bucky says it pretty well- Barkley is a solar system player, build around him.
Can't have everything Po, Franchise QB trumps Running Back. The Super Bowl starting running backs were a UFA and fifth round pick. If we lose out on Saquon- he's not the only running back in this very deep draft. And regarding Ladanian Tomlinson- who I did want the Browns to draft- and didn't get drafted #1 overall- never made the Super Bowl.
Regarding your faulty analogy. Put Barkley on the Packers- who goes first- Rodgers or Barkley? If you say Rodgers, you're smoking some really good stuff.
Don't be hallucinating the Giants and Colts already know who they're going to draft either. NO team in the league- not even the Browns who can draft whoever the hell they want to at #1 aren't 100% certain at this point.
Go ahead- keep being in denial the Giants may well draft Eli's replacement, and the Colts aren't trading down with Denver or the Jets. Or picking up a bodyguard to keep Luck in one piece.
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This guy does a pretty good job explaining it.
I agree with you though, I can't be mad if we take a QB #1 and take Barkley #4. I will laugh until the season start and all will be right with the world... Because we will then go to the Superbowl. And we will win it. Because the chance of Barkley being there at #4 is just as likely.
I think it's pretty consensus that we use our #1 and #4 on a QB/RB combo. The order is what I feel is the issue. If you could get your choice of QB at #4 would you then be okay with taking Barkley #1? Because then it goes down to the psychology or the dogma.
To get the offense going and to truly start to build some momentum, to actually have the defense's back and to put up a fight.
I think that this is the most important Draft I can remember, we are certainly at a crossroads.
#1 and #4 could turn out so many ways. Had we only had a single top 5 pick I think that this would be much simpler to logic out.
With 2 picks in the top 4 this issue is going to be magnified- because what happens if the QB taken #1 Overall busts AND we don't get Barkley at #4... it'd be some dark days. Especially if even 1 of the projected 1st round QBs turns out better than our #1 guy and Barkley gets OROTY.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Never take a HB that high when you have so many other holes. End of story.
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Never take a HB that high when you have so many other holes. End of story.
I respect your opinion although I do not agree with it.
What holes are you speaking of because we also have a glaring hole at RB now. Daisey Duke's are not the answer.
CB at #4 Overall? Or is Fitz a FS? Does it matter though, Never take a CB that high when you have so many other holes. End of story.
See, it's simply an opinion, or rather a difference of opinion.
Do you subscribe to the best player available philosophy or do you draft to fill holes? Or is it a combination of the two? Which takes precedence, and why? So you see, far from being the end of the story, we've simply glanced over the table of contents.
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You can't just repeat what I said about CBs and act like you're right....
There is a history of two things hurting Barkley.
1) HB talent us repeatedly found in later rounds.
2) HBs are becoming a lower priority position.
You're then using the #1 overall pick on a less important position that can be filled throughout the draft.
You can't go purely BPA because our roster is not there. Even then, you need to think about the relatives value of the position.
If we can't get a top vet QB, I think we "have" to take our top target at 1. Then Fitz at 4. A position of greater need and greater value than HB.
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You can't just repeat what I said about CBs and act like you're right....
There is a history of two things hurting Barkley.
1) HB talent us repeatedly found in later rounds.
2) HBs are becoming a lower priority position.
You're then using the #1 overall pick on a less important position that can be filled throughout the draft.
You can't go purely BPA because our roster is not there. Even then, you need to think about the relatives value of the position.
If we can't get a top vet QB, I think we "have" to take our top target at 1. Then Fitz at 4. A position of greater need and greater value than HB.
You can't just repeat what I said about CBs and act like you're right....
There is a history of two things hurting Barkley.
1) HB talent us repeatedly found in later rounds.
2) HBs are becoming a lower priority position.
You're then using the #1 overall pick on a less important position that can be filled throughout the draft.
You can't go purely BPA because our roster is not there. Even then, you need to think about the relatives value of the position.
If we can't get a top vet QB, I think we "have" to take our top target at 1. Then Fitz at 4. A position of greater need and greater value than HB.
1) Talent at ALL positions can be found in later rounds, correct?
2) I would disagree that HBs are becoming a lower priority position, I would say the opposite. It's about the player and the skillset. Many teams, have proven that you get a lot of production from the HB position now because defenses have geared up for the passing attack. The more dominant backs are proving difficult for teams to stop because of this. If you can get a HB in open space against a team's smaller players it becomes a nightmare for defenses.
Where would our roster be exactly, in terms of what our needs are, from your standards?
Mine- QB and RB are the only real holes I see. Maybe if I'm being picky- CB, WR, S? Much later though.
Breaking it down.
CB- McCourty, Taylor, Calhoun are pretty good. Don't forget about Howard Wilson, who was looking pretty good until the injury. He should be back healthy this year. Could we use a player here? Sure, but trumping BPA for a positon that is pretty solid seems like a luxury pick for me.
WR- Gordon, Coleman, Coates, Higgins, Louis. Not seeing the "Need" to trump BPA here as you already have a #1 WR.
SS or FS? I like what Kindred does out there, I like Peppers too. What roles they play, how they are used and why they are used that way are more important questions. Because if you spend the #4 on a player like Fitzpatrick and you put him at midfield, much like Peppers was used, you're going to get the same amount of production. Again, I like Fitzpatrick but I'm not seeing the need to trump BPA. So I guess I don't see where our roster would need to be in order to start taking the best players. IMO that's the only way we get better.
An example- Last year we took Garrett #1 because he was the best player. I didn't think that we needed to go that route because we had Nassib and Ogbah at the ends. But we took Garrett. Now we have Garrett, Nassib and Ogbah. Garrett is a lock on one side and Nassib and Ogbah hold down the other. We no longer need to draft DE. We took Njoku and we already had DeValve, he's doing well, no NEED to draft a TE now with both DeValve and Njoku.
When you start to draft for your Need you get picks like Kizer. Now you've picked him high enough that you HAVE to play him.
I think the best scenario would be to get Cousins or McCarron in FA. Draft Barkley #1 and Fitzpatrick #4 (FS and Peppers at SS). Hopefully get a stud C at the top of the second, solidify the OL. We'd have to know where Thomas is, if he's coming back and what the timeline is for finding his replacement, because finding a LT becomes a need in a hurry if Thomas is done. You might have to trade back into the first to secure one of these guys like McGlinchey, Williams or Brown.
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This guy does a pretty good job explaining it.
I agree with you though, I can't be mad if we take a QB #1 and take Barkley #4. I will laugh until the season start and all will be right with the world... Because we will then go to the Superbowl. And we will win it. Because the chance of Barkley being there at #4 is just as likely.
I think it's pretty consensus that we use our #1 and #4 on a QB/RB combo. The order is what I feel is the issue. If you could get your choice of QB at #4 would you then be okay with taking Barkley #1? Because then it goes down to the psychology or the dogma.
To get the offense going and to truly start to build some momentum, to actually have the defense's back and to put up a fight.
I think that this is the most important Draft I can remember, we are certainly at a crossroads.
#1 and #4 could turn out so many ways. Had we only had a single top 5 pick I think that this would be much simpler to logic out.
With 2 picks in the top 4 this issue is going to be magnified- because what happens if the QB taken #1 Overall busts AND we don't get Barkley at #4... it'd be some dark days. Especially if even 1 of the projected 1st round QBs turns out better than our #1 guy and Barkley gets OROTY.
This guy does a pretty good job explaining it.
I agree with you though, I can't be mad if we take a QB #1 and take Barkley #4. I will laugh until the season start and all will be right with the world... Because we will then go to the Superbowl. And we will win it. Because the chance of Barkley being there at #4 is just as likely.
I think it's pretty consensus that we use our #1 and #4 on a QB/RB combo. The order is what I feel is the issue. If you could get your choice of QB at #4 would you then be okay with taking Barkley #1? Because then it goes down to the psychology or the dogma.
To get the offense going and to truly start to build some momentum, to actually have the defense's back and to put up a fight.
I think that this is the most important Draft I can remember, we are certainly at a crossroads.
#1 and #4 could turn out so many ways. Had we only had a single top 5 pick I think that this would be much simpler to logic out.
With 2 picks in the top 4 this issue is going to be magnified- because what happens if the QB taken #1 Overall busts AND we don't get Barkley at #4... it'd be some dark days. Especially if even 1 of the projected 1st round QBs turns out better than our #1 guy and Barkley gets OROTY.
That isn't even "consensus" Po. Most of the mocks have the Browns going QB\Fitzpatrick. I've seen a few where Barkley falls all the way to #9 to the 49ers.
But I can't get over you're so paranoid about losing Barkley you spewed the Giants already are taking him if the Browns go QB at #1. Sorry, that's one of the dumber things you've ever posted. Do you have any idea how Front Offices work? At this point, teams don't even have their draft boards set. They may have players roughly ranked A, B, C, or D prospects. May set up a rough preliminary draft after the combine. It won't get serious until after the pro days, private workouts and interviews- up until a week before the draft.
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POG, I don't expect you to reasonable or sensible about anything.
,,,because he can jump over the Empire State Building, remember. That building was tiny- gotta give credit where credits due my dawg.
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