Saquon Barkley Combine Bound
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33 pages and counting of Barkley nonsense.
It's almost impressive.
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33 pages and counting of Barkley nonsense.
It's almost impressive.
33 pages and counting of Barkley nonsense.
It's almost impressive.
By far the most captivating thoughts....
I think you might have recalled that I said that he had a fitting name for the Dawgpound. I never said he would be as good as I'm saying Barkley is.
Bark-ley-ville?
Barkless if they don't pick him?
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33 pages and counting of Barkley nonsense.
It's almost impressive.
33 pages and counting of Barkley nonsense.
It's almost impressive.
Almost? IS. And Tour's so mad at me for shutting the other thread down he's on vacation...
I'll let this one go to 20 pages, or the Combine whichever comes first. Then time for a new one.
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Great article on Barkley and the Combine... http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/saquon-barkely-nfl-combine-mock-draft-running-back-first-round/glze8toz3jz81f8q5odpr22ps
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Saquon Barkley loved watching the NFL Scouting Combine on television.
That's one of the reasons the star Penn State running back is about to pay it forward for those who also get their kicks watching draft-evaluation drills.Unlike other elite prospects who previously have shunned Combine participation in favor of more comfortable surroundings at their schools' Pro Days and private team workouts, Barkley is good to go for Indianapolis in late February.
"I've been watching the Combine since I was a little kid," Barkley told co-host Gil Brandt and me Wednesday on SiriusXM NFL Radio. "That’s something I dreamed about doing. Getting an invitation was special. You definitely want to take advantage of the opportunity you’ve got there."
In his case, that could be elevating himself to the top spot in April’s draft if Cleveland decides Barkley is too promising to pass up.
The Browns, who hold the Nos. 1 and 4 overall picks, aren't the only club with a high choice that could use a bell-cow rusher who can also thrive as a receiver and kick returner. The Giants (No. 2) and Colts (No. 3) both averaged less than 4 yards per carry in 2017.
Nobody could blame the Broncos (No. 5), the Jets (No. 6) or the Buccaneers (No. 7), either, if they considered trading up to land a 21-year-old phenom who became Penn State's second all-time leading rusher in just three seasons before turning pro as a junior.
"Obviously, I'm not blind to the teams that do need a running back," Barkley said. "But you can't really look too far ahead at what teams may pick you.
"The way I look at it, every team fits me or I can fit any team because at the end of the day you want to adapt to the team and coaches that pick you. I don't look at myself as a one-dimensional back. I look at myself as a back that can do it all and is going to continue to work and grow in every part of the game. Whatever team drafts me is going to get a person who’s going to try and be the best."
That attitude is reflected in Barkley’s approach to the Combine.
Barkley has spent the past several weeks prepping with renowned trainer Tom Shaw in Lake Buena Vista, Fla. Barkley said that work includes "little stuff like how you run a 40 (yard dash) with the start, how many steps you take in the (short) shuttle and where you put your hands for the bench press."
"To be out there with some of the best of the best and the best at your position … It's not a competitive event but it really is, if you think about it," Barkley said. “I just want to do the best I possibly can to not only challenge myself but challenge the other backs in there, too.
"I'm not just going to bash anybody that decides not to (participate). Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. But me, I think it’s important. It helps you see where you’re at personally and against competitors who are competing for the same spot as you."
One area in which Barkley need not worry is the interview process with NFL teams at the Combine. He received high marks for his character while at Penn State and by all accounts has a squeaky-clean background.
"The way I'm going to attack (the interviews) is to be honest and open and just let it all out there because I feel like I don't have anything to hide," Barkley said. “I give credit to my family, coaches and friends that have kept me in line at school and made sure I didn't make dumb decision.
Unlike some other prospects who might feel uncomfortable about the 15-minute "get-to-know-you" sessions at the Combine, Barkley is looking forward to learning more about his potential suitors.
"As they're asking you questions, you're getting to know the people that you might be surrounding yourself with,” he said. "You never know — that team might be the team that drafts you and you want to give a good first impression.
"They want to give a good first impression, too, because that's where you’ll be playing for the next five or 10 years."
Barkley isn't blowing smoke about having a big-picture vision. He said part of his Combine prep has focused on bettering his flexibility along with other training methods designed to increase his chances for NFL success and longevity.
The only thing Barkley can't control is where that career will begin.
"The biggest thing I’ve just been thinking about is that my life is going to change in a matter of two months," Barkley said. "I'm going to be in a new city with a new team living my dream.
"It's exciting to think about it. It gets me fired up because I’m passionate about this game. I fell in love with this sport at a young age and everything that I’ve worked for is coming all together."
Everyone who watches the Combine should find that out soon enough.
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Pog, now you are just lying, or was lying before.
I gave you 2 options before, ANY QB at #1 AND Barkley at #4 OR #1 Barkley and what could be your #3 quarterback at #4. You picked to take #1 Barkley and #4 a Quarterback.
And you have also said how monumental and great it would be to have a RB go #1. So you chose to have Barkley at 1. So from your words it wouldn't be great to get the QB at 1 and Barkley at 4.
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Pog, now you are just lying, or was lying before.
I gave you 2 options before, ANY QB at #1 AND Barkley at #4 OR #1 Barkley and what could be your #3 quarterback at #4. You picked to take #1 Barkley and #4 a Quarterback.
And you have also said how monumental and great it would be to have a RB go #1. So you chose to have Barkley at 1. So from your words it wouldn't be great to get the QB at 1 and Barkley at 4.
Pog, now you are just lying, or was lying before.
I gave you 2 options before, ANY QB at #1 AND Barkley at #4 OR #1 Barkley and what could be your #3 quarterback at #4. You picked to take #1 Barkley and #4 a Quarterback.
And you have also said how monumental and great it would be to have a RB go #1. So you chose to have Barkley at 1. So from your words it wouldn't be great to get the QB at 1 and Barkley at 4.
It's hopeless Gunz. If Barkley is gone at #4 we take BPA there, (Fitzpatrick or Chubb) and take our pick of the plethora of good running backs that will be there at #33. Po has got it in his mind positively, without a doubt, Saquon is going in the top three picks. Hell's Bells, there's two possible scenarios where the Browns would draft him #1 overall- both unlikely. First is we land Cousins in free agency. Second is we have all of the top three quarterbacks ranked exactly equally. We've posited this around 10 times already, and Po's not listening. I've never seen this much fixation on a draft prospect- ever. Hey, I happen to like Baker Mayfield a lot- you don't see me starting 30 pages of the same garbage why he's our only best option at the top of the draft.
Let's take a look at a line from that article he posted... "Nobody could blame the Broncos (No. 5), the Jets (No. 6) or the Buccaneers (No. 7), either, if they considered trading up to land a 21-year-old phenom who became Penn State's second all-time leading rusher in just three seasons before turning pro as a junior."
Nobody could blame the Broncos or Jets for trading up to take a Quarterback either. Jags jumping the Browns for a running back would flat-out be too costly draft wise.
He might want to read what one of the guys he quoted- Bucky Brooks said- why the Steelers shouldn't pay Le'veon Bell. And why in today's NFL, taking a running back high is a 4 year proposition before they're used up. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916582/article/steelers-shouldnt-pay-leveon-bell-johnny-manziels-best-path
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Pog, now you are just lying, or was lying before.
I gave you 2 options before, ANY QB at #1 AND Barkley at #4 OR #1 Barkley and what could be your #3 quarterback at #4. You picked to take #1 Barkley and #4 a Quarterback.
And you have also said how monumental and great it would be to have a RB go #1. So you chose to have Barkley at 1. So from your words it wouldn't be great to get the QB at 1 and Barkley at 4.
It's hopeless Gunz. If Barkley is gone at #4 we take BPA there, (Fitzpatrick or Chubb) and take our pick of the plethora of good running backs that will be there at #33. Po has got it in his mind positively, without a doubt, Saquon is going in the top three picks. Hell's Bells, there's two possible scenarios where the Browns would draft him #1 overall- both unlikely. First is we land Cousins in free agency. Second is we have all of the top three quarterbacks ranked exactly equally. We've posited this around 10 times already, and Po's not listening. I've never seen this much fixation on a draft prospect- ever. Hey, I happen to like Baker Mayfield a lot- you don't see me starting 30 pages of the same garbage why he's our only best option at the top of the draft.
Let's take a look at a line from that article he posted... "Nobody could blame the Broncos (No. 5), the Jets (No. 6) or the Buccaneers (No. 7), either, if they considered trading up to land a 21-year-old phenom who became Penn State's second all-time leading rusher in just three seasons before turning pro as a junior."
Nobody could blame the Broncos or Jets for trading up to take a Quarterback either. Jags jumping the Browns for a running back would flat-out be too costly draft wise.
He might want to read what one of the guys he quoted- Bucky Brooks said- why the Steelers shouldn't pay Le'veon Bell. And why in today's NFL, taking a running back high is a 4 year proposition before they're used up. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916582/article/steelers-shouldnt-pay-leveon-bell-johnny-manziels-best-path
It's hopeless Gunz. If Barkley is gone at #4 we take BPA there, (Fitzpatrick or Chubb) and take our pick of the plethora of good running backs that will be there at #33. Po has got it in his mind positively, without a doubt, Saquon is going in the top three picks. Hell's Bells, there's two possible scenarios where the Browns would draft him #1 overall- both unlikely. First is we land Cousins in free agency. Second is we have all of the top three quarterbacks ranked exactly equally. We've posited this around 10 times already, and Po's not listening. I've never seen this much fixation on a draft prospect- ever. Hey, I happen to like Baker Mayfield a lot- you don't see me starting 30 pages of the same garbage why he's our only best option at the top of the draft.
Let's take a look at a line from that article he posted... "Nobody could blame the Broncos (No. 5), the Jets (No. 6) or the Buccaneers (No. 7), either, if they considered trading up to land a 21-year-old phenom who became Penn State's second all-time leading rusher in just three seasons before turning pro as a junior."
Nobody could blame the Broncos or Jets for trading up to take a Quarterback either. Jags jumping the Browns for a running back would flat-out be too costly draft wise.
He might want to read what one of the guys he quoted- Bucky Brooks said- why the Steelers shouldn't pay Le'veon Bell. And why in today's NFL, taking a running back high is a 4 year proposition before they're used up. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916582/article/steelers-shouldnt-pay-leveon-bell-johnny-manziels-best-path
It may be hopeless, and I certainly have gotten used to the best ever stuff. That wasn't the issue with this post.
I really wanted to see where his priority was when I asked recently. There was 2 scenarios: 1. Top QB (whether that's Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, etc) and even gave them hypothetical "rankings", AND Barkley at 4 or Barkley at 1 and 3rd QB at 4, he chose the latter.
So he is more concerned about Barkley going number 1 for the looks of Barkley going 1 than getting the best players. He said as much. So he lied saying he would love to get QB at 1 and Barkley 4.
One of these times he lied.
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so...what if the Browns DO draft Josh Allen at one, and Barkley at 4?
who be dancin ?
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so...what if the Browns DO draft Josh Allen at one, and Barkley at 4?
who be dancin ?
Not sure about dancing.....but I may have similar enthusiasm as Bengal fans did when drafting David Klingler and Kijana Carter (though yes, those were in different years)
Now....don't get me wrong....Bengals fans had GREAT enthusiasm when they drafted those guys.....but I am talking about the 3 years later level of enthusiasm.
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so...what if the Browns DO draft Josh Allen at one, and Barkley at 4?
who be dancin ?
Oh gasp! That better never, ever happen.....not even joking about it! Two rookie quarterbacks OMG, scary thought.
RB + DB, DB + OL, RB + WR well one of the mentioned + a QB if they can't sign one.
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Oh gasp! That better never, ever happen.....not even joking about it! Two rookie quarterbacks OMG, scary thought.
RB + DB, DB + OL, RB + WR well one of the mentioned + a QB if they can't sign one.
Uhm....Barkley is not a QB
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Uhm....Barkley is not a QB
Oh god brain freeze, I had this "my QB is better than your QB" thing going on in my head......plus I'm watching the Young & the Restless......enough excuses?
Actually I could see QB1 plus Barkley 4 or vice versa.
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Uhm....Barkley is not a QB
Oh god brain freeze, I had this "my QB is better than your QB" thing going on in my head......plus I'm watching the Young & the Restless......enough excuses?
Actually I could see QB1 plus Barkley 4 or vice versa.
Oh god brain freeze, I had this "my QB is better than your QB" thing going on in my head......plus I'm watching the Young & the Restless......enough excuses?
Actually I could see QB1 plus Barkley 4 or vice versa.
the only versa I'll buy is if you can guarantee me we can get Darnold or Mayfield at #4.
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ok, question. What is it about Mayfield, with his short stature, and offense played, that makes him worth a
4th overall pick, and Mike White not worth a late first round pick? White has played in three different offenses,
very successful, very high completion percentage....
Not knocking Mayfield, but what is it about him, that makes him so superior to White?
Just askin...
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ok, question. What is it about Mayfield, with his short stature, and offense played, that makes him worth a
4th overall pick, and Mike White not worth a late first round pick? White has played in three different offenses,
very successful, very high completion percentage....
Not knocking Mayfield, but what is it about him, that makes him so superior to White?
Just askin...
ok, question. What is it about Mayfield, with his short stature, and offense played, that makes him worth a
4th overall pick, and Mike White not worth a late first round pick? White has played in three different offenses,
very successful, very high completion percentage....
Not knocking Mayfield, but what is it about him, that makes him so superior to White?
Just askin...
Why ask us.....go see what the scouting reports say about it. It should not just be the "small school thing"....as W Ky is FBS....and plays on a levely likely even with say Wyoming....who has a somewhat highly rated QB in this draft. And as we know Wentz was FCS.
So...I guess what I am saying is: come up with some answers to your own questions.
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ok, question. What is it about Mayfield, with his short stature, and offense played, that makes him worth a
4th overall pick, and Mike White not worth a late first round pick? White has played in three different offenses,
very successful, very high completion percentage....
Not knocking Mayfield, but what is it about him, that makes him so superior to White?
Just askin...
Why ask us.....go see what the scouting reports say about it. It should not just be the "small school thing"....as W Ky is FBS....and plays on a levely likely even with say Wyoming....who has a somewhat highly rated QB in this draft. And as we know Wentz was FCS.
So...I guess what I am saying is: come up with some answers to your own questions.
So...I guess what I am saying is: come up with some answers to your own questions.
I did. I was wondering what other people thought. The small school thing didn't work with Wentz. I know freaking what I think. The scouting reports I"ve read, but they aren't written on the subject, and wouldn't be written by posters on this board. "DER"
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So...I guess what I am saying is: come up with some answers to your own questions.
I did. I was wondering what other people thought. The small school thing didn't work with Wentz. I know freaking what I think. The scouting reports I"ve read, but they aren't written on the subject, and wouldn't be written by posters on this board. "DER"
I did. I was wondering what other people thought. The small school thing didn't work with Wentz. I know freaking what I think. The scouting reports I"ve read, but they aren't written on the subject, and wouldn't be written by posters on this board. "DER"
So....you are saying that you DID find the answer as to why Mayfield IS so much more highly rated than White? Or are you saying that you found an answer as to why White Should be as highly rated as Mayfield?
Funny thing is: There was no post by you after I said that you should answer your own question...yet you say you did answer it. Where? Is there an invisible ink thread on here? Maybe you are claiming you related your conclusions somewhere up above. Well....with all the claptrapple and folderal that gets put on here....most of us may have missed its. Ergo....perhaps you can reiterate:
A. WHY...in your opinion....is Mayfield a potential Top Ten draft pick.....and why is Mike White NOT a potential first round pick?
B. Or, alternatively...if that is not your opinion.....what is:
1. In your opinion is Mayfield a Top Ten prospect? Or not? and If not, why not?
2. In your opinion is White a first round prospect? Or not....and if not why not?
3. Or....is White worth a higher pick? If so, why?
4. Or.... in your opinion should White actually be considered a better prospect than Mayfield? If so, why?
You say you have answered...but I think we all missed it. Here is your chance to be explicit and succinct.
Note: I am not saying that I expect to agree or disagree with your opinions at all. I expect that you will have some perfectly valid arguments/positions on these. As I have noted before....I have formed little of an opinion on all these QB prospects. (the only thing I have pointed out is that your boy Allen really has come in sucking hind tit when it come to raw statistical comparisons with the other top prospects. But that is just that, raw stats.)
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I wonder about it, and I thought of some reasons, but I don't know that it is settled, so I was wondering what other
people would think as to the explanations. I don't know, I was just wondering. I'm not wondering what I think, I know what I think.
I wanted to know what others might thing. So, to learn that, I asked the question. But I don't see anything necessarily, that tells me White is flat out far less talented a prospect than Mayfield. So, I asked the question. I'm still asking. Have a nice day.
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It's hopeless Gunz. If Barkley is gone at #4 we take BPA there, (Fitzpatrick or Chubb) and take our pick of the plethora of good running backs that will be there at #33. Po has got it in his mind positively, without a doubt, Saquon is going in the top three picks. Hell's Bells, there's two possible scenarios where the Browns would draft him #1 overall- both unlikely. First is we land Cousins in free agency. Second is we have all of the top three quarterbacks ranked exactly equally. We've posited this around 10 times already, and Po's not listening. I've never seen this much fixation on a draft prospect- ever. Hey, I happen to like Baker Mayfield a lot- you don't see me starting 30 pages of the same garbage why he's our only best option at the top of the draft.
Let's take a look at a line from that article he posted... "Nobody could blame the Broncos (No. 5), the Jets (No. 6) or the Buccaneers (No. 7), either, if they considered trading up to land a 21-year-old phenom who became Penn State's second all-time leading rusher in just three seasons before turning pro as a junior."
Nobody could blame the Broncos or Jets for trading up to take a Quarterback either. Jags jumping the Browns for a running back would flat-out be too costly draft wise.
He might want to read what one of the guys he quoted- Bucky Brooks said- why the Steelers shouldn't pay Le'veon Bell. And why in today's NFL, taking a running back high is a 4 year proposition before they're used up. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916582/article/steelers-shouldnt-pay-leveon-bell-johnny-manziels-best-path
It may be hopeless, and I certainly have gotten used to the best ever stuff. That wasn't the issue with this post.
I really wanted to see where his priority was when I asked recently. There was 2 scenarios: 1. Top QB (whether that's Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, etc) and even gave them hypothetical "rankings", AND Barkley at 4 or Barkley at 1 and 3rd QB at 4, he chose the latter.
So he is more concerned about Barkley going number 1 for the looks of Barkley going 1 than getting the best players. He said as much. So he lied saying he would love to get QB at 1 and Barkley 4.
One of these times he lied.
It may be hopeless, and I certainly have gotten used to the best ever stuff. That wasn't the issue with this post.
I really wanted to see where his priority was when I asked recently. There was 2 scenarios: 1. Top QB (whether that's Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, etc) and even gave them hypothetical "rankings", AND Barkley at 4 or Barkley at 1 and 3rd QB at 4, he chose the latter.
So he is more concerned about Barkley going number 1 for the looks of Barkley going 1 than getting the best players. He said as much. So he lied saying he would love to get QB at 1 and Barkley 4.
One of these times he lied.
I think you got confused about something dawggy.
A) "I" absolutely would take Barkley #1 in the draft. No matter what... and whatever QBs comes to me, I'll choose the best one.
If we land a Cousins or McCarron, I we might forego a QB in the first altogether. In that case, Barkley #1 and If my top QB is still there, I'll draft him. If my top QBs are gone I'd probably draft Fitzpatrick #4. *Joe Thomas' decision on whether or not he's going to be able to continue to play will also weigh in on my decision at #4.
C) If we get Cousins/McCarron in FA and Joe Thomas retires- I'm taking Barkley #1 and the Best LT #4.
D) So therefore, if the Browns panic and draft a QB #1 (not ideal) I would certainly be okay with them drafting Saquon at #4.
E) However, I have reason to believe that the Giants and the Colts covet Barkley enough to see to it that we don't have the chance to get him at #4... because they'll draft him before we can.
F) If we go QB #1 and Barkley #4 - I would be so happy I'd laugh till the cows came home -because I believe if we don't get him at #1 we're not going to be getting him.
G) I don't have the greatest amount of confidence that the Browns are going to end up getting the right QB. So if they take a QB #1 and he turns out to be a bust, and on top of that we miss out on getting Barkley, because someone else scoops him before #4, I'm not going to be happy.
Where is the miscommunication? I lettered the different points so it should be easy to pick out.
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Oh god brain freeze, I had this "my QB is better than your QB" thing going on in my head......plus I'm watching the Young & the Restless......enough excuses?
Actually I could see QB1 plus Barkley 4 or vice versa.
the only versa I'll buy is if you can guarantee me we can get Darnold or Mayfield at #4.
the only versa I'll buy is if you can guarantee me we can get Darnold or Mayfield at #4.
I can guarantee you one of those at #4.
But if you insisted on unequivocal, without a doubt, mathematically unbreakable proof...
We could give the Colts #4, the second*(third) rounder from the Eagles and a fourth rounder to move up 1 pick into their slot at #3. If they covet a defensive player they'd be no worse for wear and if they wanted to trade it to someone for one of the other 4 first round QBs, CB/S or DE, they could do that too.
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