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  • the left LIEs, and live with complete falsehoods as a dramatic emotional manipulation of other people tool.

    The kgb always did it. The gestapo always did it. It has been how vicious groups get and keep complete control and power.

    like

    "hands up, don't shoot" .... completely fake. Effective though.

    "Cruz was trained by the NRA"  .....complete fame. Effective though.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/17/nikolas-cruz-nra-training/

    Anti-Gun News Outlets Push False Claim That Florida Shooter Was ‘Trained’ By The NRA

    That's right - the killer was in JROTC. Supported by the U.S. Army. It's a lie.

    They don't care though. They love lies because they can work.

    'Vox, a left-leaning website, published an article with the headline: “Nikolas Cruz was reportedly on an NRA-funded rifle team in high school.”

    And Think Progress, a website affiliated with the leftist Center for American Progress, published a piece headlined, “The NRA donated $10,000 to help train the Parkland shooting suspect to use a rifle.” '

    but the truth is...

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/jrotc-students-save-peers-kevlar-curtains/

     
  • how bad it the political hate over losing their control over our country in the WH ?

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    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/cbs-fires-legal-exec-las-vegas-1202578075/

    CBS has fired a legal executive who took to social media Monday morning with harsh words for the victims of one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history.

    Hayley Geftman-Gold, a VP and senior counsel in strategic transactions at CBS wrote on Facebook Monday just hours after a shooting in Las Vegas at a country-music festival left at least 58 dead and hundreds more injured, “If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing. I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans are often republican gun toters.”

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    It's political hatred. Their side lost. ObaMao and the dems owned both houses and the presidency for two years?

    did nothing. They cannot get rid of reality. Violent mentally ill get violent. With a car, gun, flamethrower, bomb, knives,

    swords, trucks, gasoline, any spray poison... whatever might help them be violent and murder people. The 9/11 murderers used box knives, lies and airplanes to murder so many. Hear any of the left demand that box knives and airplanes be banned? nope.

    But it's guns that are the "other political side".

  • @canton-dawg said:

    I think that’s the premise for the legalization of marijuana.

    The government can’t stop it, so just legalize it and tax the fukk out of it.

    No, the premise for the legalization of marijuana is that we can make a lot of money taxing it and that it isn't nearly as dangerous as alcohol. There's no real argument to keep it illegal. 

    But I'm responding to what you posted in that meme. Are you saying we should make all drugs legal?

    @mld-woody said:

    But I'm responding to what you posted in that meme. Are you saying we should make all drugs legal?

    Is there an Amendment to legalize all drugs?

    I'll let you figure that out.

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  • Smart guns. We have the technology. We use it in literally everything. 

  • The sad fact is that the gun genie is out of the bottle. It's not going back in. It's not. 

    One thing we could do is start paying attention to the freaks and weirdos before their social isolation and cries for attention lead them down such a dark and devastating path. 

  • and THEY LIKE cars. they DON'T like guns.

    Woody doesn't "see" why anybody needs an AR-15.

    Well, I have a semi-automatic .22 with a nice scope. It's my squirrel rifle. It shoots a little .22 each time I pull the trigger. An AR-15 does the exact same thing.

    Some AR-15's are .22 caliber. Leftwing poltiics are strictly angry emotional, not common sense.

    They don't want "common sense gun control" - they hate not having a permanent emotional win over the non-left, and a repeal of our 2nd Amendment would pretty much give them that - like they demand to win all elections - and when they lose both houses and the presidency - they went on the "warpath".

    Too many of them have finally admitted, their ulterior motive is to get a foot in the door to get rid of our right to own our guns.

    There is no taking away of a permanent RIGHT. What good would any right be, if it can be taken away by a whim of the majority of voters in one place, or the entire country? That is other countries - not us.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/mask-is-coming-off-commonsense-gun-safety-law-disclaimers/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=8a332b6a05-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-8a332b6a05-20770865#axzz57Z08f32x

    @calfoxwc said:

    and THEY LIKE cars. they DON'T like guns.

    Woody doesn't "see" why anybody needs an AR-15.

    Well, I have a semi-automatic .22 with a nice scope. It's my squirrel rifle. It shoots a little .22 each time I pull the trigger. An AR-15 does the exact same thing.

    Some AR-15's are .22 caliber. Leftwing poltiics are strictly angry emotional, not common sense.

    They don't want "common sense gun control" - they hate not having a permanent emotional win over the non-left, and a repeal of our 2nd Amendment would pretty much give them that - like they demand to win all elections - and when they lose both houses and the presidency - they went on the "warpath".

    Too many of them have finally admitted, their ulterior motive is to get a foot in the door to get rid of our right to own our guns.

    There is no taking away of a permanent RIGHT. What good would any right be, if it can be taken away by a whim of the majority of voters in one place, or the entire country? That is other countries - not us.

    https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/mask-is-coming-off-commonsense-gun-safety-law-disclaimers/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=8a332b6a05-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-8a332b6a05-20770865#axzz57Z08f32x

    22 rifles have a velocity of between 1400-1800 fps

    The AR-15 (in .223) has an average velocity of 2800-3300 fps. It's useless for home defense, you'll shoot straight through your house and into your neighbors house. It's not just about the caliber but the force in which it hits. 

    It's not just about the gun but about the type of person who is doing the shooting and it's obvious they're drawn to the AR platform. It's about the image. It's about the attention. You and I know that the AR isn't the only gun that can kill you quickly. Far from it. Even the decidedly low tech revolver can do that. 

    That's why I both won't care if it gets banned and keep trying to tell people it's a half-measure. Something to pat themselves on the back about and nothing more. 

  • It won't stop mass shootings. Only a complete and total confiscation of all guns will do that. And, we'll have to effectively close off Mexico or they'll just start running guns along with drugs. And then you'll start seeing much more of vehicular homicide. 

    The root causes have to be addressed. 

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  • @mld-woody said:

    Ignoring the fact that those drugs are, oh I don't know, legitimately terrible for your health and very dangerous...

    Alcohol isn't legitimately terrible for your health and dangerous? Really? Marlboros?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Alcohol isn't legitimately terrible for your health and dangerous? Really? Marlboros?

    WSS

    Not remotely at the same level...

  • @westside-steve said:

    Alcohol isn't legitimately terrible for your health and dangerous? Really? Marlboros?

    WSS

    Not remotely at the same level...

    @mld-woody said:

    Not remotely at the same level...

    http://www.tobaccoatlas.org/topic/smokings-death-toll/

    And yet perfectly legal and easily accessible thanks to... Wait for it... Tax revenue.

    WSS

  • @baconhound said:

    No I think the justification it’s no worse for society than alcohol, so legalize it and tax it.

    I know people who love their Oxy. I'd imagine the tax would be less and they would have to pay on the street so there's a win-win. Cocaine? Probably easy as hell to produce so the tax would be a bargain. Not only that but few lines in the morning at the factory production goes to the roof.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I know people who love their Oxy. I'd imagine the tax would be less and they would have to pay on the street so there's a win-win. Cocaine? Probably easy as hell to produce so the tax would be a bargain. Not only that but few lines in the morning at the factory production goes to the roof.

    WSS

    I know you like to argue for the sake of arguing but this is a new low.

  • And sure the idea to ban automobiles is stupid and facetious. Still drunk driving laws are very strict in every state of the union.

    WSS

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    @westside-steve said:

    And sure the idea to ban automobiles is stupid and facetious. Still drunk driving laws are very strict in every state of the union.

    WSS

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    Of course we have licenses, registration, training, and laws that all limit your ability to drive a car...

  • @mld-woody said:

    But I'm responding to what you posted in that meme. Are you saying we should make all drugs legal?

    Is there an Amendment to legalize all drugs?

    I'll let you figure that out.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Is there an Amendment to legalize all drugs?

    I'll let you figure that out.

    So laws won't limit or prevent bad guys from getting guns.... But we should keep drugs illegal?

  • the left LIEs, and live with complete falsehoods as a dramatic emotional manipulation of other people tool.

    The kgb always did it. The gestapo always did it. It has been how vicious groups get and keep complete control and power.

    like

    "hands up, don't shoot" .... completely fake. Effective though.

    "Cruz was trained by the NRA"  .....complete fame. Effective though.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/17/nikolas-cruz-nra-training/

    Anti-Gun News Outlets Push False Claim That Florida Shooter Was ‘Trained’ By The NRA

    That's right - the killer was in JROTC. Supported by the U.S. Army. It's a lie.

    They don't care though. They love lies because they can work.

    'Vox, a left-leaning website, published an article with the headline: “Nikolas Cruz was reportedly on an NRA-funded rifle team in high school.”

    And Think Progress, a website affiliated with the leftist Center for American Progress, published a piece headlined, “The NRA donated $10,000 to help train the Parkland shooting suspect to use a rifle.” '

    but the truth is...

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/jrotc-students-save-peers-kevlar-curtains/

     

    @calfoxwc said:

    the left LIEs, and live with complete falsehoods as a dramatic emotional manipulation of other people tool.

    The kgb always did it. The gestapo always did it. It has been how vicious groups get and keep complete control and power.

    like

    "hands up, don't shoot" .... completely fake. Effective though.

    "Cruz was trained by the NRA"  .....complete fame. Effective though.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/17/nikolas-cruz-nra-training/

    Anti-Gun News Outlets Push False Claim That Florida Shooter Was ‘Trained’ By The NRA

    That's right - the killer was in JROTC. Supported by the U.S. Army. It's a lie.

    They don't care though. They love lies because they can work.

    'Vox, a left-leaning website, published an article with the headline: “Nikolas Cruz was reportedly on an NRA-funded rifle team in high school.”

    And Think Progress, a website affiliated with the leftist Center for American Progress, published a piece headlined, “The NRA donated $10,000 to help train the Parkland shooting suspect to use a rifle.” '

    but the truth is...

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/jrotc-students-save-peers-kevlar-curtains/

     

    The things they don't cover   .   .   .   not sure I want to do that or not, still mulling it.

  • Smart guns. We have the technology. We use it in literally everything. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Smart guns. We have the technology. We use it in literally everything. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The sad fact is that the gun genie is out of the bottle. It's not going back in. It's not. 

    One thing we could do is start paying attention to the freaks and weirdos before their social isolation and cries for attention lead them down such a dark and devastating path. 

    Both of these are good ideas. Smart guns make a lot of sense. 

    Unfortunately a lot of powerful lobbies and bought politicians are against them

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Is there an Amendment to legalize all drugs?

    I'll let you figure that out.

    So laws won't limit or prevent bad guys from getting guns.... But we should keep drugs illegal?

    @mld-woody said:

    So laws won't limit or prevent bad guys from getting guns.... But we should keep drugs illegal?

    Depends on the drug.

    There’s illegal drugs and legal drugs...a yin and a yang in some cases.

    Would we need Narcan if we can rid the streets of heroin?

    I don’t see the U.S. ever being drug free.

  • What good are 'smart' guns?  Who will buy them?  No one.  There are hundreds of millions of 'stupid guns' already on the streets, that will last for decades.