Joe Covets Kirk .....
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These People still don't understand.. Cousins doesn't scare anyone... Like the Steelers are shitting theyre boots.. "Oh no.. the Browns might get cousins.".. Some of you people are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense.. but enjoy your little gay fanboy fantasies of sucking Kirks peepee...LOL
These People still don't understand.. Cousins doesn't scare anyone... Like the Steelers are shitting theyre boots.. "Oh no.. the Browns might get cousins.".. Some of you people are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense.. but enjoy your little gay fanboy fantasies of sucking Kirks peepee...LOL
I basically agree.
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These People still don't understand.. Cousins doesn't scare anyone... Like the Steelers are shitting theyre boots.. "Oh no.. the Browns might get cousins.".. Some of you people are ridiculous and make absolutely no sense.. but enjoy your little gay fanboy fantasies of sucking Kirks peepee...LOL
I basically agree.
I basically agree.
That could be true except right now I don't see any PLAN B when it comes to a QB except for drafting a rookie savior and hope he becomes an answer to the QB problem that's been plaguing the BROWNS for two decades.
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I basically agree.
That could be true except right now I don't see any PLAN B when it comes to a QB except for drafting a rookie savior and hope he becomes an answer to the QB problem that's been plaguing the BROWNS for two decades.
That could be true except right now I don't see any PLAN B when it comes to a QB except for drafting a rookie savior and hope he becomes an answer to the QB problem that's been plaguing the BROWNS for two decades.
We wouldn't have needed plan B if the Browns had taken my armchair GM's advice and drafted Carson Wentz. I'll assume you've seen the garbage we acquired to date on that trade down- and it's not pretty.
We've rolled the dice and come up snake eyes Since Couch. That's the viewpoint I'm coming from- our luck has to change. We haven't drafted a QB in the top 10 since Timmy and it's about freaking time to change that. Sure, there's no guarantee the guy is going to pan out, but I like my odds this year. I'm tired of Factory seconds, off the top of my head. Quinn, Weeden, Manziel, Frye, McCoy, the immortal Spergon Wynn, Noodle Arm Dorsey, Kessler, yeah- throw Kizer in there too until proven otherwise. Over the hill bums like Dilfer, Delhomme, Wallace, and Campbell. That's 13 of the 27 right there.
It's why no to Cousins and yes to the top 2018 qb prospect. If all goes well, it's the same as Joe Thomas, you plug him in next year, and you forget about the position for the next 10-12 years. The prospect's time horizon is 9 years longer than Cousins'. Not to mention the $150 million we won't be spending on the guy's rookie contract.
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too bad, vegas says it's over.
I'd usually laugh this one off, but those mofos always know more than we think they do. Wouldn't be surprised if there's insider info they are privy to here.
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too bad, vegas says it's over.
I'd usually laugh this one off, but those mofos always know more than we think they do. Wouldn't be surprised if there's insider info they are privy to here.
too bad, vegas says it's over.
I'd usually laugh this one off, but those mofos always know more than we think they do. Wouldn't be surprised if there's insider info they are privy to here.
If there’s insider information that the Browns 100% aren’t in the running for Cousins, you’d think it would behoove Vegas to keep them on the ballot. That’s just free money.
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I basically agree.
That could be true except right now I don't see any PLAN B when it comes to a QB except for drafting a rookie savior and hope he becomes an answer to the QB problem that's been plaguing the BROWNS for two decades.
That could be true except right now I don't see any PLAN B when it comes to a QB except for drafting a rookie savior and hope he becomes an answer to the QB problem that's been plaguing the BROWNS for two decades.
I don't think we need a "Plan B". Plan A is perfectly viable and doable. Plan A is: 1. sign a veteran bridge type QB 2. draft a QB at #1 3. Keep Kizer a 3rd string 4. Have Hogan and/or Kessler on board as camp arms.
There is NOTHING preventing Plan A from being achieved. They have the money to sign some FA of their choosing They have the picks...and they have the fodder signed.
The ONLY Thing that could even be remotely considered a Plan B.....would be if they indeed wanted to go after Cousins as a longer termer....and I just don't see that happening.
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too bad, vegas says it's over.
I'd usually laugh this one off, but those mofos always know more than we think they do. Wouldn't be surprised if there's insider info they are privy to here.
If there’s insider information that the Browns 100% aren’t in the running for Cousins, you’d think it would behoove Vegas to keep them on the ballot. That’s just free money.
If there’s insider information that the Browns 100% aren’t in the running for Cousins, you’d think it would behoove Vegas to keep them on the ballot. That’s just free money.
Interestingly enough, they now put the Browns back on the bet with 12/1 odds.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW VEGAS!
...Jets are 5/7, so they changed to an enormous favorite.
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If there’s insider information that the Browns 100% aren’t in the running for Cousins, you’d think it would behoove Vegas to keep them on the ballot. That’s just free money.
Interestingly enough, they now put the Browns back on the bet with 12/1 odds.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW VEGAS!
...Jets are 5/7, so they changed to an enormous favorite.
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https://nypost.com/2018/02/19/60m-in-1st-year-jets-set-to-creatively-pounce-on-kirk-cousins/ any team giving up 60M.. up front..is WINNING
Kirk..
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If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
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If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
The difference between Smith and what Cousins is going to get is around $60 million. Kirk is not $60 million better. Plenty of chatter from Redskins fans that Kirk isn't worth what he's going to command. If he holds true to he wants to play for a winner scratch the Browns off his list anyway. Sure, we can get him by offering a ludicrous amount of money- like $170 million and 1\2 of that guaranteed. I don't want to be in the situation the Broncos are in now a few years down the road. If the Broncos decide to enter the Cousins sweepstakes, they're going to have to dump quality vets to clear cap space. Taking Cousins means there's no backup plan. Playoffs or bust with Captain Kirk. Other thing Pat, the stench of passing on Wentz and Watson still lingers heavily on the shores of Lake Erie. Any of the 2018 qb crop gets to the Super Bowl before Cousins and the Browns- it would be ugly- really ugly.
Nah, Hue is in love with McCarron. AJ won't cost (at most) half of what Cousins is going to get on the open market. Sure he might flop, and if he does, it's bye-bye Hue. Something the majority of Browns fans wouldn't shed a tear over. We'll draft our QBOTF, and hope Barkley falls to #4. If not Fitzpatrick or Chubb are nice consolation prizes.
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Joe Thomas Retweeted russ
You could make MORE money and MORE history in Cleveland than anywhere else, by FAR. Don’t just go and be another quarterback somewhere else!
I wonder what he knows and whether it has any significance on Joe coming back ?
Joe Thomas Retweeted russ
You could make MORE money and MORE history in Cleveland than anywhere else, by FAR. Don’t just go and be another quarterback somewhere else!
I wonder what he knows and whether it has any significance on Joe coming back ?
Haven't you heard? He isn't just going to the HOF, he is also the new GM. Cousins would have to be out of his fukcking mind to play in Cleveland. He will have fat enough offers to cherry pick where he wants to go. WTF does he want with the burden of returning the Browns to greatness, and playing for 1- 31 black Uncle Fester?
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The interesting thing is, if we REALLY want Kirk Cousins, we can get him. How you ask? Easy. You give him basically the first FULLY guaranteed mega-contract in NFL history. That's right people, Kirk Cousins comes to Cleveland if we offer him a 5 year deal worth $150 million....fully guaranteed. In fact, the Browns start offering fully guaranteed contracts and we'll have a LINE of people trying to come to Cleveland because NFL players want security and they know their windows are small, and their chances of getting injured are high.
It gets complicated because that might not be a good decision for the team, and it could end up hamstringing us should the unthinkable happen, and Kirk sustain a career threatening injury. As insane as my proposal sounds, don't think it's not being discussed. Maybe it's 4 years for $120 million with a 5th year option, but if you're John Dorsey, you're thinking about it because it's the quickest way to respectability and actually contending for a wildcard slot. Intrigued? You should be. Why? Because even though we'd be breaking the CRAP out of the bank, it would give us ALL KINDS of draft flexibility. We'd no longer need to draft a QB at #1 OR #4. What's that mean? It means we could trade down from one of them and not feel it too much. Some QB needy team will pounce on the #1 pick, and if they don't...screw them, we'll take Saquon. When #4 comes along, I can promise a QB needy team will come calling when their guy is still available. We get ANOTHER 1st round pick next year, and we keep the cupboard stocked.
Is this going to happen? No, of course not. The Jets have insane money available to spend on Kirk, and if they don't get him, the Broncos will. Still...stranger things have happened, haven't they? More likely for us is signing AJ McCarron and drafting a QB at 1 or 4. And who knows? Maybe that's the better move! We get a potential starting QB in McCarron (nobody knows if he is or isn't) and we get our #1 QB on our board because we have the 1st pick AND we still get to pick at 4. How many teams have ever gotten to take their top rated QB AND gotten to draft top 5?
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If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of.
All the Money won't matter when your 1-31..We stood at the QB plate 3 times & swung & missed 3 times & here comes 4. Why? Dorsey won't make the Financial Commitment seeing something in this QB draft class...1) Alex Smith--Chiefs recv'd a 3rd & CB Kendall Fuller..Dorsey offered a 2nd, either #33 or #35.Believe me you don't want none of our CB's but NT D. Shelton or WR J.Gordon could help your team. Smith signed a 4 year 94M with 71M up front. Dorsey did not want to make finance commitment nor length of deal. <<Here lies the reason we swing & miss 4 times in just over 3 months with Cousins..2) Jimmy G..FO internal turmoil..3) McCarron..Muffed Paperwork.. 4) Cousins..it would shock most now if Dorsey values Kirk over his guy A.Smith even in same length 4 year deal now..even if we paid 4 years up front.. Dorsey's plan of bridge QB's better expand further than Mc-Karen? Cause these draftable QB's are not ready..None of Them..imo
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Joe Thomas Retweeted russ
You could make MORE money and MORE history in Cleveland than anywhere else, by FAR. Don’t just go and be another quarterback somewhere else!
I wonder what he knows and whether it has any significance on Joe coming back ?
Haven't you heard? He isn't just going to the HOF, he is also the new GM. Cousins would have to be out of his fukcking mind to play in Cleveland. He will have fat enough offers to cherry pick where he wants to go. WTF does he want with the burden of returning the Browns to greatness, and playing for 1- 31 black Uncle Fester?
Haven't you heard? He isn't just going to the HOF, he is also the new GM. Cousins would have to be out of his fukcking mind to play in Cleveland. He will have fat enough offers to cherry pick where he wants to go. WTF does he want with the burden of returning the Browns to greatness, and playing for 1- 31 black Uncle Fester?
Paxton it is then
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If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
If I were the Browns FO, I would make Cousins option 1. He only costs money, that you have a ton of. He has shown he can produce with a less than stellar supporting cast (Somehting Alex Smith CAN NOT do.) ...you get Joe Thomas back, you are then at liberty to take Barkley and Minkuh if you want, trade back if you want....you can do what you want. ....You wiegh the known quantity of Cousins vs the unknown of the QB's in this draft. I have to think that because Cleveland was involved in trying to trade for Smith, that they DO NOT SEE any of the QB in this class as a day one starter at best. Cousins gets you to a better floor to start turning things around. .....look at the Smith involvment a little deeper....If you think Smith or Cousins are close the same or one is a little better than the other (doesn't matter who) ....and your FO was in on Smith....you have to think they will be in on Cousins.....For a fanbase of team that is 1-31 and has a staggering payload of cap space, you all sure do worry alot about not wanting to spend some money...WHY? ....And if you sign Cousins, and it costs alot....so what? It will seem obscene for about 2 years....and then when a bunch of other QB sign new deals, his will seem ho hum....like ALWAYS happens. If you can't land kirk, then by all means....find the best guy you can find and draft him...but Cousins should be plan A.
Your thinking is off base....at least in terms of comparing the Browns interest in Smith vs. Cousins. Smith would have been viewed merely as a veteran Bridge QB to the guy they will take in the draft.
With Cousins....you have to be in for the long run because of his age, attitude...and the money investment that would have to be made. None of that applied to Smith.
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Joe Thomas Retweeted russ
You could make MORE money and MORE history in Cleveland than anywhere else, by FAR. Don’t just go and be another quarterback somewhere else!
I wonder what he knows and whether it has any significance on Joe coming back ?
Haven't you heard? He isn't just going to the HOF, he is also the new GM. Cousins would have to be out of his fukcking mind to play in Cleveland. He will have fat enough offers to cherry pick where he wants to go. WTF does he want with the burden of returning the Browns to greatness, and playing for 1- 31 black Uncle Fester?
Haven't you heard? He isn't just going to the HOF, he is also the new GM. Cousins would have to be out of his fukcking mind to play in Cleveland. He will have fat enough offers to cherry pick where he wants to go. WTF does he want with the burden of returning the Browns to greatness, and playing for 1- 31 black Uncle Fester?
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